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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: Bambak on November 01, 2012, 05:21:31 pm
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lvl 30
Strength:18
Agility:21
Weapon Master:4
Athletics:6
Shield:7
Power Strike:6
One Handed:138
body: Skutatos Armor
Head: Helmet with Neckguard
Leg: Wrapping Boots
hand: Plate mittens
weapons: elite scimitar and steel pick
shield: huscarls
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Drop all your Weapon Master and max your athletics at 7 and then put 3 points into ironflesh.
You'll move faster, have more health, and still have 111 1h wpf.
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7 shield is overkill, especially with a huscarl. You will die making mistakes/counterattacks 100x more often than having your shield break on you.
you realize that by cheaping out in your boots people can 1 shot you? See all the 2h'ers going around with their head staring at the ground? They do that so they can hit you in the feet, aka the Street Sweeper effect. Also any smart spearman is going to stab you there. So you've effectively wasted all the other money you spent on other armor.
also you are going to pay heavily for any mistakes you make having 0 IF. Pretty much any STR 2h'er that hits you will instagib your ass.
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ok then .. better leg armor and 3 if? .. than i am on the right way?
somthing like that:
Weapon Master:2
Athletics:7
ironflesh: 3
Shield:5
Power Strike:6
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ok then .. better leg armor and 3 if? .. than i am on the right way?
Get a weapon that isn't gay.
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Be flexible in your weps...
steel pick is a hard wep to use with just 64 length. Takes a while to learn and even then good players will know how to use that against you.
Elite scrimmy is ok, but also takes some time, really comes into its own once you learn to abuse the ghost reach. spectate arrowaine.
1h weaps are neat cuz they all are fairly unique and have strengths and weaknesses. It once is a bit different and has intracacies to master before becoming really effective. So sample around and try a bunch before sticking with one. This is why a lot of experienced 2h players give up on shielding quickly they get frustrated cuz the footwork is totally different, and also have to find a new weapon and stick with it for a while. takes patience.
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I have this build for lvl 30 18/21
6 ps, 2 if, 3 wp, 7ath, and 5 shild, works great, and if u wanna lvl more then 31 the build is great cuse u can just convert the point and put some more in if,shild, or wp on what u like.
on lvl 31 i was putting 3 more points in if,
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ok then .. better leg armor and 3 if? .. than i am on the right way?
somthing like that:
Weapon Master:2
Athletics:7
ironflesh: 3
Shield:5
Power Strike:6
I still prefer having maxed shield skill, but at the very least listen to my advice and drop *all* of your weapon master in favor of ironflesh. As a pure melee build dedicated to one-handed weapons, the WPF you get from leveling is more than you could ever need.
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but many people say that under 130 in any specialisation is too low. are 111 realy enough in one hand??
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Just try 18/18 build...
5 if 6 ps 6 atl 6 wm 6 shield... One of the best build for new players or if you are going to use steel pick always you can go 15/21 3 if 5 ps 7 shield 7 wm 7 atl
and take a better leg armor... use rus cav boots (light) or Splinted Leather Greaves over Mail.
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but many people say that under 130 in any specialisation is too low. are 111 realy enough in one hand??
yes
WPF only makes up like 10% of your actual swing speed, another 10% is weapon speed, and then 80% is basically your own movement, ability to turn with weapon swing, positioning and your actual timing. So high 150ish wpf and super fast wep speed can make a marginal diference in certain spamming situations but if your timing and swing footwork is bad then it really won't matter.
So 110 wpf is fine especially while you are learning, the extra IF will be better to help keep you alive.
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my build with lvl 30
18str
21 agj
6 Ps,
7 Athl
7 Shield
3 weapon master
it gets up to nearly 130 1hand, i think so thats fine as well.
as im using heraldic mail with tabard loomed im reluctant to skill if and rather put some into weapon master.
i also find it pretty nice to have 7-8 shield skill as it practically never breaks in battle even if some cav lances you.
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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 5
Athletics: 7
One Handed: 114
this is best 1h build. 114 wpf is enough.
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but many people say that under 130 in any specialisation is too low. are 111 realy enough in one hand??
I got 100 1h wpf and that's more than enough for me. Although I'm not using a shield, though.
I personally don't go higher than 120 wpf for melee weapons. Not much need for more, unless you are using a slow weapon (like Pike or Great Maul) or if you are making a build to get high wpf (170+).
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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 5
Athletics: 7
One Handed: 114
this is best 1h build. 114 wpf is enough.
Very nice build if you use a Heavy Shield like Huscarl's. Otherwise your shield may break too fast (atleast at Siege).
114 wpf really is enough. I have used 118 last Gen and even with a slow weapon like a Military Hammer I had absolutely no problems.
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If you feint a lot, high wpf will help you. Or at least that's how it feels like.
If you don't have a heirloomed 1h, try the military hammer.
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thanks for the advices. will try my best. :wink:
why military hammer not warhammer .. because of the lenght?
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and price
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thanks for the advices. will try my best. :wink:
why military hammer not warhammer .. because of the lenght?
The length makes it easier to use, since most people like to keep range against 1handers.
The price is also a plus, since it means you earn more gold. Remember, you also have to pay for the shield.
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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 5
Athletics: 7
One Handed: 114
this is best 1h build. 114 wpf is enough.
I envy such a categorical)
in that case I would say that 18 ps - is not enough today (especially with 5if), huscarl shield for people who long ago accepted the fact that they are being killed, and 114 wpf ... omg what is it)
but I will not so unequivocal: try some STF build, 18/18, 21/18, 21/15 (better for level 30), feel what you are missing more with your style, speed or power, and on this basis make your high lvl build
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the two builds i use at lvl 30 are
21-15
7ps
7if
5ath
5shield
5wpm
18-18
6if
6ps
6shield
6ath
5wpm
both decent builds and i do have a mp shield though ^^
21-15 i prefer heavier armour but i find i prefer these builds over 18-21 which imo sacrifices a lot just for 1 extra athletics
And IMO Wpm is important for a shielder. when two shielders meet i can usually left attack then left attack again just beating people i know have base wpf with a similar weapon
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the two builds i use at lvl 30 are
21-15
7ps
7if
5ath
5shield
5wpm
I am a very successful 1h / shielder with huscarl and long espada eslavona. I top the charts often on NA 1 battle with this build. The MW LEE is amazing, it takes some commitment to get it to be MW but it is one of the best weaps in the game at rank 3. The steel pick is 2nd best 1h weap IMO. But you need a stab and the LEE stab is amazing, you can defend yourself against cav with it as well which is why they all hate me! Just stab their horse's face and they will drop. The steel pick people like because it doesnt glance as much as the LEE, but I believe this is a bug when the LEE stab glances and will hopefully be fixed. Even if you have to deal with glances from the LEE you will learn how to use it. If you want to use the steel pick then I'd suggest a faster build with more athletics because you will need it to circle your enemies.
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ive had a +3 LEE three seperate times now :D I prefer the nordic swords or arming swords with a shield but LEE is definatly my fav to fight with without a shield :D
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the two builds i use at lvl 30 are
21-15
7ps
7if
5ath
5shield
5wpm
18-18
6if
6ps
6shield
6ath
5wpm
both decent builds and i do have a mp shield though ^^
21-15 i prefer heavier armour but i find i prefer these builds over 18-21 which imo sacrifices a lot just for 1 extra athletics
And IMO Wpm is important for a shielder. when two shielders meet i can usually left attack then left attack again just beating people i know have base wpf with a similar weapon
you mean that 18-18
6if
6ps
6shield
6ath
5wpm
is more fun in play that 18 - 21
5if
6ps
5shield
7ath
sounds logical, because you get 5 wmp, 1 if and 1 shield for 1 athletic on the other side. hmmmm .
at the moment i am lvl 27 17-18 .... i should think very intensive about that. perhaps i'll try 18-18 .... but im afraid, that 6 ath is not fast enough. and i am definitely play with steel pick, because i am already spend my hireloom in that weapon :shock: ... so i have no choice :lol:
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you mean that 18-18
6if
6ps
6shield
6ath
5wpm
is more fun in play that 18 - 21
5if
6ps
5shield
7ath
sounds logical, because you get 5 wmp, 1 if and 1 shield for 1 athletic on the other side. hmmmm .
at the moment i am lvl 27 17-18 .... i should think very intensive about that. perhaps i'll try 18-18 .... but im afraid, that 6 ath is not fast enough. and i am definitely play with steel pick, because i am already spend my hireloom in that weapon :shock: ... so i have no choice :lol:
if you are gonna use steel pick 15-21 is best for you
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Needs more shield skill. About 6 more.
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if you are gonna use steel pick 15-21 is best for you
but with 15-21 i think, i do not have enough power in my hits ... so i need too many hits before my opponent goes down??!!
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5 PS is enough if you use a Steel Pick. Only if you plan to use a cut weapon you should get atleast 6 PS.
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4 ps is enough too, with 35 pierce (+3) weapon you don't need more than 2 ps :D