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Title: Archer build...
Post by: Tore on November 01, 2012, 03:11:11 pm
So... The 18/18 hybrid archer build I was going for on an alt is nerfed :/

Now I guess I have to respec, into high PD archer, what would the max PD I could go be?
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Arrowblood on November 01, 2012, 03:37:45 pm
13, wait 15 at lvl 35
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Storulven on November 01, 2012, 03:41:06 pm
(15*PD)-(1.5^(PD))

(15*0)-(1.5^(0))   = -1
(15*1)-(1.5^(1))   = 13.5
(15*2)-(1.5^(2))   = ~27.8
(15*3)-(1.5^(3))   = ~41.6
(15*4)-(1.5^(4))   = ~54.9
(15*5)-(1.5^(5))   = ~67.4
(15*6)-(1.5^(6))   = ~78.6
(15*7)-(1.5^(7))   = ~87.9
(15*8)-(1.5^(8))   = ~94.4
(15*9)-(1.5^(9))   = ~96.6
(15*10)-(1.5^(10))   = ~92.3
(15*11)-(1.5^(11))   = ~78.5
(15*12)-(1.5^(12))   = ~50.3
(15*13)-(1.5^(13))   = ~0.38

Your choice
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Tore on November 01, 2012, 03:45:15 pm
lol will that be viable?
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Cup1d on November 01, 2012, 03:50:56 pm
Don't you know that Shik has 9pd\5wm archer?

Feel free to use only valid archer build now.
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Arrowblood on November 01, 2012, 03:52:51 pm
I tried 13 pd stf +mw longbow and bodkins. Closed crosshair + high dmg.
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Tore on November 01, 2012, 03:57:24 pm
I tried 13 pd stf +mw longbow and bodkins. Closed crosshair + high dmg.

Wat. No your profblabla is too low message?
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Arrowblood on November 01, 2012, 04:10:46 pm
yes.
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Tore on November 01, 2012, 04:14:03 pm
yes.

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Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: TurmoilTom on November 01, 2012, 04:14:20 pm
Try 30/9 with 10 PD, 3 WM and 10 PS. All archery wpf.

It's the new archer god build.
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Torben on November 01, 2012, 04:18:23 pm
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Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Tore on November 01, 2012, 04:23:25 pm
Try 30/9 with 10 PD, 3 WM and 10 PS. All archery wpf.

It's the new archer god build.


Not 13 pd? :(
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 01, 2012, 04:27:00 pm
Remember that PD is not optimal if you exceed 4 higher then the bow's minimum PD requirements, it arguably adds the amount of time you can hold a tight crosshair, but it does not add additional damage past that point (courtesy of Native Mechanics in Single Player).


Personally I like either 30/12 or 24/12.
No Athletics.


30/12 would be 10PD 4WM 3 PS, and (my personal favorite) the wonderful 24/12 is a super-lulzy and pretty effective 8PS 8IF 8PD 4WM 1ATHL (138 archery wpf 4 2H wpf) build (since 1 athletics only lowers wpf by 6 points), so grab a Yumi/Horn, one stack of Bodkins, and a long two hander and you can beat the holy hell out of anything and anyone. Having zero athletics is a non-issue if you are smart and think ahead and especially if you have a few clanmates to travel with.


I am actually extremely amused that after so long, the current bizzaro-land archery mechanics is forcing everyone to play with builds identical or near-identical to what I preferred when starting c-RPG (a bow, some arrows and a mean nasty two hander).
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Arrowblood on November 01, 2012, 04:41:26 pm
Remember that PD is not optimal if you exceed 4 higher then the bow's minimum PD requirements, it arguably adds the amount of time you can hold a tight crosshair, but it does not add additional damage past that point (courtesy of Native Mechanics in Single Player).


Personally I like either 30/12 or 24/12.
No Athletics.


30/12 would be 10PD 4WM 3 PS, and (my personal favorite) the wonderful 24/12 is a super-lulzy and pretty effective 8PS 8IF 8PD 4WM 1ATHL (138 archery wpf 4 2H wpf) build (since 1 athletics only lowers wpf by 6 points), so grab a Yumi/Horn, one stack of Bodkins, and a long two hander and you can beat the holy hell out of anything and anyone. Having zero athletics is a non-issue if you are smart and think ahead and especially if you have a few clanmates to travel with.


I am actually extremely amused that after so long, the current bizzaro-land archery mechanics is forcing everyone to play with builds identical or near-identical to what I preferred when starting c-RPG (a bow, some arrows and a mean nasty two hander).
BUT
You become accurater and the speed of your arrow increases, so also the dmg.
Try 13 pd on a stf.
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Tore on November 01, 2012, 04:51:45 pm
BUT
You become accurater and the speed of your arrow increases, so also the dmg.
Try 13 pd on a stf.

so whats the best build :o
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Kunio on November 01, 2012, 07:10:11 pm
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Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Tore on November 01, 2012, 09:23:48 pm
going 30 9
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Vodner on November 01, 2012, 09:30:48 pm
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    Strength: 27
    Agility: 12

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Power Strike: 7
    Athletics: 3
    Power Draw: 9
    Weapon Master: 4

    Archery: 140

I had a lot of fun goofing around with this build on my STF.

Take a long, fast 1h sidearm (elite scimitar and the NCS are both good choices). A 1-slot 2h is also an option, but I prefer 1h for 1 WPF shenanigans. I tried using a warhammer, but 3 ath with a weapon that short is just painful.

Be aware that 3 ath with a 1-hander is far from optimal, so avoid getting into duels if you can avoid it.
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Tore on November 03, 2012, 05:17:37 pm
so 10 PD 7 PS 3 ATH 3 VM now after patch? :D
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Kunio on November 03, 2012, 05:46:56 pm
Meow said the new formula for WPF LOSS is (14*PD)-((1.4)^PD)

1 PD = 12.6
2 PD = 26.0
3 PD = 39.2
4 PD = 52.1
5 PD = 64.6
6 PD = 76.4
7 PD = 87.4
8 PD = 97.2
9 PD = 105.3
10 PD = 111.0
11 PD = 113.5
12 PD = 111.3
13 PD = 102.6
14 PD = 84.8
15 PD = 54.4
Title: Re: Archer build...
Post by: Tore on November 03, 2012, 05:49:08 pm
So I need 140 wpf for 10 PD?