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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: Teeth on October 28, 2012, 10:26:38 pm
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I've been trying to get some clear info on this, but wasn't able to. What is the exact relation between troops, goods and horses and how does one maximize his speed?
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have more troops then crates, have more horses then troops
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have more troops then crates, have more horses then troops
Back to the drawing board you go Haboe.
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1. Troops need to be more/equal than goods number (but u can have different kinds of goods, as long as none of them separately excede the troops number) to have basic speed levels.
2. For bonus speed u need more horses than troops and goods (not sure with different goods, but i think it doesnt work with horses as with troops alone, so here the total number of all goods together counts, but correct me if i'm wrong)
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You get speed upgrades for
More troops than crates
No crates
More horses than crates
More horses than troops + crates
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You get speed upgrades for
More troops than crates
No crates
More horses than crates
More horses than troops + crates
thats the old rules, since the last strat update, its with goods and not crates anymore, if the goods excede troops u get a heavy speed nerf.
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Isn't that a seperate rule?
We're talking about speed bonus from horses? They seriously changed it to goods instead of crates? So if I have a 900 goods which = 150 crates, I now need 901 horses to get like a +4 metres/min speed bonus instead of 151? Seems a bit excessive if true...
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Isn't that a seperate rule?
We're talking about speed bonus from horses? They seriously changed it to goods instead of crates? So if I have a 900 goods which = 150 crates, I now need 901 horses to get like a +4 metres/min speed bonus instead of 151? Seems a bit excessive if true...
It's also dependent on how whether or not it's the same type if goods. 100 goods x and 100 goods y needs less horses than 200 goods of just x.
This was wrong. Thank Bjarky for correcting.
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true...
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Yep, thats how it is now :idea:
I also checked the values with horses and multible good types to be sure: its the total number of all goods together, so 2*100 or 1*200 doesn't matter here, thats only for troops.
Horses only give bonus speeds if they are more or equal than all goods and an extra speed bonus if they also are more or equal than troops.
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Ok if I have 100 troops and 100 goods type A and 100 type B for extra speed bonus I need 200 horses.. wright?
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So 2 nerfs to trade then in last patch...?
-Massive crate penalty to carrying more good of one type than troops (force traders to spend more time gathering multiple types, so lowering efficiency)
-And a stealth nerf to speed bonus from horses by linking horse thresholds to goods instead of crates (so basically 6x more horses needed to achieve higher speed).
I guess the devs really wanted to make trade more difficult.
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Ok if I have 100 troops and 100 goods type A and 100 type B for extra speed bonus I need 200 horses.. wright?
yes
So 2 nerfs to trade then in last patch...?
-Massive crate penalty to carrying more good of one type than troops (force traders to spend more time gathering multiple types, so lowering efficiency)
-And a stealth nerf to speed bonus from horses by liking horse thresholds to goods instead of crates (so basically 6x more horses needed to achieve higher speed).
I guess the devs really wanted to make trade more difficult.
yes the goal was that clans can't use up all their s&d, so independents and small clans have more access again.
time will show if this works.
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Ok if I have 100 troops and 100 goods type A and 100 type B for extra speed bonus I need 200 horses.. wright?
201 or 301
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201 or 301
200
as soon u have equal or more, u got thy bonus :P
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Bjarky, do you know what the deal is if you mix sumpters and rouncies? Does the speed bonus average out between the two different qualities?
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Bjarky, do you know what the deal is if you mix sumpters and rouncies? Does the speed bonus average out between the two different qualities?
hmm, dont know, but it will probably give the lowest of the bonuses, but haven't tried that.
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200
as soon u have equal or more, u got thy bonus :P
I have 100 men with 100 goods x + 100 goods y and 101 horses walking around at 18 meters / minute. If I had 201 horses I would get a speed bonus or am I right in saying im already at the max with this cargo on?
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if u would have at least 200 horses (rouncey's and above) u would have 33-34speed per m/m :wink:
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thanks a lot Bjarky, I will upgrade those caravans asap.
Another question, if I had 100 men, and 3 kind of goods (x+y+z = 100 + 100 + 100), would 300 horses give me a 33/34 speed or is 100 + 100 goods the maximum goods cap per 100 troops ?
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300 horses will give u the speed bonus. your troops won't matter then :wink:
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250 men. 4000 goods 3000 of 1 type 1000 of another. how many horses for good speed?
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4k horses. its always the number of all goods together that counts when u want horse speeds :idea:
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How much of a speed bonus will you get if you are carrying like a 3500 crate penalty lol? Even with 4000 horses
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I will let u know. I was hoping that 250 of second type of goods would be free.. I will have to buy many bales of hay soon to feed my pony friends
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How much of a speed bonus will you get if you are carrying like a 3500 crate penalty lol? Even with 4000 horses
ignore the crate number.... as Bjarky has rightly said repeatedly the rule is simple:
1 good requires 1 horse, nothing more nothing less.
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Ok I just have to say I love Butan's avatar.