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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bjord on October 28, 2012, 09:13:20 pm

Title: Whatever.
Post by: Bjord on October 28, 2012, 09:13:20 pm
Move this to spam, please.
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Tore on October 28, 2012, 09:13:44 pm
umad?
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: _GTX_ on October 28, 2012, 09:15:00 pm
Well its fun to compare the glaive 160 lenght to a 123 lenght 2h, same speed. Yup that seems fair.

How can u downvate facts? lol
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: TugBoat on October 28, 2012, 09:15:30 pm
It's clear by now the only thing the Devs care about is balance that will help them enjoy the game better. Clearly they were getting owned by long swords, great swords, and lances, but prefer to use glaives themselves.
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Frankysan on October 28, 2012, 09:16:33 pm
CRY MOREEEEE
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Osiris on October 28, 2012, 09:16:44 pm
use HBS instead bjord

EDIT :D You know the game is fucked for at least a day after a patch. wait untill the hot fixes and changes are looked at after a day or two LIKE ALWAYS
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Meow on October 28, 2012, 09:16:55 pm
Yes, all our mains are glaive spammers.
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: In Cauda Venenum on October 28, 2012, 09:17:16 pm
Longsword lost -4 pierce, -2 cut.

what
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Moncho on October 28, 2012, 09:17:32 pm
Well, with the nerf to the top tier greatswords, maybe HBS, katanas and the rest are more used which would increase the pace of the game.
Oh wait, but that is so not what you were asking for...

argh 4 new replies while I was typing
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Frankysan on October 28, 2012, 09:17:36 pm
Well its fun to compare the glaive 160 lenght to a 123 lenght 2h, same speed. Yup that seems fair.

How can u downvate facts? lol
And sorry for double post, but stop comparing everything to the glaive. Glaive is not the standard polearm, and everybody with a bit of brain always agree on that being the most my old friendgy weapon ever existed
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Zanze on October 28, 2012, 09:18:24 pm
"Oh my class got nerfed whatever shall I do!"

Deal with it, every other class has been nerfed a few times since the last 2h nerf. Suck it up.
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: wayyyyyne on October 28, 2012, 09:18:40 pm
Both DGS and heavy lance users had it coming.

Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Leshma on October 28, 2012, 09:19:26 pm
Are there any meaningful changes in this patch or you just changed few numbers to keep community happy?

HEY FOLKS CRPG JUST GOT PATCHED, LET'S PLAY IT AGAIN!
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Bjord on October 28, 2012, 09:19:52 pm
Yes, all our mains are glaive spammers.

I didn't get to check the other polearms, so I couldn't say. But the polearm department seems to have evaded the mighty nerf hammer.
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Teeth on October 28, 2012, 09:20:06 pm
I think they are nerfing long weapons and buffing short weapons, which is a good change. I hope the aforepromised wpf rework is still in the works though.
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: _GTX_ on October 28, 2012, 09:20:17 pm
And sorry for double post, but stop comparing everything to the glaive. Glaive is not the standard polearm, and everybody with a bit of brain always agree on that being the most my old friendgy weapon ever existed

Yet its pretty much untouched afaik, but alright.

There is a ton of other polearms above 123 lenght with more than 90 speed, but the site is down atm, so i cant show the exact stats atm.

Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Moncho on October 28, 2012, 09:21:18 pm
Do you not realise that the length difference makes only a couple of these actually longer?
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Frankysan on October 28, 2012, 09:23:30 pm
Yet its pretty much untouched afaik, but alright.

There is a ton of other polearms above 123 lenght with more than 90 speed, but the site is down atm, so i cant show the exact stats atm.
do i really need to tell you with your 9000000 hours in crpg that different weapons get different bonus in lenght because of the animations and the way you wield them?
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Teeth on October 28, 2012, 09:23:47 pm
Yet its pretty much untouched afaik, but alright.

There is a ton of other polearms above 123 lenght with more than 90 speed, but the site is down atm, so i cant show the exact stats atm.
Polearms need to be atleast 143 length to outrange 123 length 2h and that is without taking the stab into account. Now how much of those have more than 90 speed and that much cut?
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Jarlek on October 28, 2012, 09:25:36 pm
I think they are nerfing long weapons and buffing short weapons, which is a good change. I hope the aforepromised wpf rework is still in the works though.
Basically this. What I've seen from the changes they made now is that longer weapons got slower and shorter weapons got more speed or damage.

I don't see why people are complaining about the game speed when they are using the longest weapons. You can't have the longest reach, highest damage AND the fastest speed, now can you?

EDIT:
do i really need to tell you with your 9000000 hours in crpg that different weapons get different bonus in lenght because of the animations and the way you wield them?
He's never used anything but 2handed weapons, so yeah. You have to explain it to him :P
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: _GTX_ on October 28, 2012, 09:25:43 pm
I am aware of that, but i cant remember the exact numbers. Still the glaive is far better with lenght/reach.
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Frankysan on October 28, 2012, 09:26:34 pm
I am aware of that, but i cant remember the exact numbers. Still the glaive is far better with lenght/reach.
i'm all up for removing the glaive from our universe/dimension/state of existence
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Zanze on October 28, 2012, 09:26:44 pm
Basically this. What I've seen from the changes they made now is that longer weapons got slower and shorter weapons got more speed or damage.

I don't see why people are complaining about the game speed when they are using the longest weapons. You can't have the longest reach, highest damage AND the fastest speed, now can you?

Yes, but after having that combination for so long they feel like it is their birthright to have it.
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on October 28, 2012, 09:28:55 pm
Teeth has a point, even then over 143 reach doesn't make that much of a difference against 2hers with 123 length.

Quite disappointed in the changes but just got to see them in game I guess, see what the damage is :(

Glave is better for speed as well, site says 90 speed but that weapon is waaay faster then my MW poleaxe
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Moncho on October 28, 2012, 09:29:52 pm
Basically this. What I've seen from the changes they made now is that longer weapons got slower and shorter weapons got more speed or damage.

I don't see why people are complaining about the game speed when they are using the longest weapons. You can't have the longest reach, highest damage AND the fastest speed, now can you?

EDIT:He's never used anything but 2handed weapons, so yeah. You have to explain it to him :P

(in a 14 year old 2h hero voice)
but but but but... I am the best, the very best that noone ever was, and I want everything so that I can show it. Ima gonna cry now unless you give me my candy back! (tears begin) sob... now I cannot be the kick ass that I was, I will have to think and addapt! (sobs continue and drown him)


Back to my normal voice: Let them QQ, they have been doing it since day 1 and this is not exactly the time for that to change
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Kelugarn on October 28, 2012, 09:30:58 pm
I am aware of that, but i cant remember the exact numbers. Still the glaive is far better with lenght/reach.

A glaive can only out reach a 120+ length 2h if the only attack the 2h is using is right swing spam, and even then only if the glaive user can position him/herself correctly with proper footwork. The retarded 2h thrust (aka poking into space and then turning the point into a target after fully extending for 100% damage) will always outreach a glaive.
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Tor! on October 28, 2012, 09:32:10 pm
Maybe it is item preperations for the new WPF stuff that was planned.

If not, well then I'm glad I'm still having a long break from the game  :|
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Bjord on October 28, 2012, 09:34:02 pm
I think they are nerfing long weapons and buffing short weapons, which is a good change. I hope the aforepromised wpf rework is still in the works though.

Longsword is considered short, right?

-4 pierce, -2 cut.

BTW, apparently changes were reverted.
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: _GTX_ on October 28, 2012, 09:34:27 pm
EDIT:He's never used anything but 2handed weapons, so yeah. You have to explain it to him :P
I played many classes, the only one i didnt try was horse archer and horse xbow. U dont even know what i played, because i always tried to avoid u. I have played 900000 hours of c-rpg as franky said, but yet u talk to me like this?. haha, this is why. I know alot about the game, since i played it for a long time.

Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Osiris on October 28, 2012, 09:35:30 pm
Quote
BTW, apparently changes were reverted.


Orly? Like every patch :D
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Dach on October 28, 2012, 09:35:35 pm
and all the crossbow got their weight doubled....  :|

ok no one care except me... 15/30 with a 10 ath build using the arbalest  :mad: :mrgreen:

Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: polkafranzi on October 28, 2012, 09:36:50 pm
and all the crossbow got their weight doubled....  :|

ok no one care except me... 15/30 with a 10 ath build using the arbalest  :mad: :mrgreen:

Kiting was a big problem.  That's the solution.
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: autobus on October 28, 2012, 09:39:06 pm
archer kiting was a problem, who cares about xbowers?
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Crob28 on October 28, 2012, 09:40:35 pm
archer kiting was a problem, who cares about xbowers?

Archers start rounds with their legs tied together.
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Daniisme on October 28, 2012, 09:42:04 pm
Just me or this patch deleted every thing I did last night.... I respected to a shielder and now all my 1h and shields are gone and my 2h is back.... what is going on??
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Bjord on October 28, 2012, 09:42:28 pm
Soon, soon...
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Bjord on October 28, 2012, 09:51:16 pm
Changes are back, ensue rage.
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: woody on October 28, 2012, 09:52:05 pm
Glad I've been looming Maidao - 6 spd advantage now over other 2h
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Tzar on October 28, 2012, 09:54:14 pm
Im still surprised some of you guys still play 2h in the first place.. its like taking a butter knife to a gun fight  :lol:

Atleast 1h´s have a riot shields an polearms have human meat walls an ghost reach trough the main group
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Jarlek on October 28, 2012, 09:57:41 pm
Longsword is considered short, right?

-4 pierce, -2 cut.

BTW, apparently changes were reverted.
Didn't check the longsword, but saw the bastard sword was buffed. Together with what I heard about the katana and claymore being buffed, I assumed the that was the general gist.

I played many classes, the only one i didnt try was horse archer and horse xbow. U dont even know what i played, because i always tried to avoid u. I have played 900000 hours of c-rpg as franky said, but yet u talk to me like this?. haha, this is why. I know alot about the game, since i played it for a long time.
Funny then that when I and others asked you if you ever tried any other class you always responded with "why should I?". But hey, you know so much more about this game than me, so why don't you tell us again how a 123 polearm and a 123 2h is equal lengthwise.
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Title: Re: Whatever.
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on October 28, 2012, 10:02:53 pm
Ok soooo the normal Lance does more damage then the heavy?   :|
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Nightingale on October 28, 2012, 10:03:14 pm
and all the crossbow got their weight doubled....  :|

ok no one care except me... 15/30 with a 10 ath build using the arbalest  :mad: :mrgreen:

what.. how does that work   :?

15-30 10 athletics and 1 wm... 115 WPF in xbow lol? id like the 15-30 10 wm and 1 athletic way more than that. 189 wpf in xbow.  Kiting with an Arbalest lol?

Edit: level 33? 10 athletics 10 wm? 190 wpf ?  :!:
Title: Re: Whatever.
Post by: Macropus on October 28, 2012, 10:04:34 pm
Ok soooo the normal Lance does more damage then the heavy?   :|
Actually it was the same way even before the patch  :D
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: TurmoilTom on October 28, 2012, 10:05:18 pm
what.. how does that work   :?

15-30 10 athletics and 1 wm... 115 WPF in xbow lol? id like the 15-30 10 wm and 1 athletic way more than that. 189 wpf in xbow.  Kiting with an Arbalest lol?

He could be level 33 or something.

Or you could be right and he's totally crazy.
Title: Re: Whatever.
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on October 28, 2012, 10:06:13 pm
It was the same way even before the patch  :D

Seriously? :l what the fuck is going on  :(
Title: Re: Whatever.
Post by: _GTX_ on October 28, 2012, 10:07:19 pm
to jarlek

I couldent remember the exact numbers, so i couldent pick a polearm which had the exact same lenght and  then compare. So i just looked at the base lenght, which were on the site.

Rly? i never played anything else and said: Why should i? That is not true... wow its impressive what u say. U directly said that i didnt know anything about other classes than 2h, but im the one which acts like i know more?

I rly cba to answer u anymore, since this is just.....
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Nightingale on October 28, 2012, 10:07:29 pm
He could be level 33 or something.

Or you could be right and he's totally crazy.


I mean it just sounds like such a waste... if I were to go to level 33, id be 15-27 9 athletics 5 ps 9 wm 170-172 in xbow and 88 in 1 hander with 3 points left over to spend on either shield, riding or ironflesh
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: Dach on October 29, 2012, 05:20:03 am
He could be level 33 or something.

Or you could be right and he's totally crazy.


The answer is both!  :lol:

I'm actually lvl 32 right now.

15 STR
30 AGI

5 PS
10 ATH
2 WM

95 in 2h
95 in xbow

Actually the weight nerf won't change much to my build, even before that nerf I wasn't able to kite people far enough to reload unless I ran for like half the map straight... I will just continu to kite until the guys get bored of chasing me or will drop my arbalest and take out the mace to fight them.

Also the 10 ath is way more usefull in melee than for shooting anyway just need to drop the arbalest to get my speed back...  :P

Title: Re: Whatever.
Post by: Kelugarn on October 29, 2012, 07:09:54 am
Oh Dach, you so crazy.
Title: Re: The fuck have you done, devs?
Post by: sjarken on October 29, 2012, 03:16:03 pm
Well its fun to compare the glaive 160 lenght to a 123 lenght 2h, same speed. Yup that seems fair.

How can u downvate facts? lol

Well glaive's 160 lenght is outreached by greatswords by miles when lolstabbing.. + poleaxe/glaive/lhb is equaly awsome wep's and yes i use the glaive xD