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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Torben on October 07, 2012, 11:45:03 pm

Title: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Torben on October 07, 2012, 11:45:03 pm
how would it be to quintuple the plated chargers price but then actually give it more use than that of a shielded sumpter?

when i started this game as a peasant it was a beast to be feared,  now its just laughable.
Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Riddaren on October 08, 2012, 12:10:07 am
Although I never use the plated charger (got a +3 charger myself) I definately wouldn't want to trade it for a +3 plated charger.
Sure, it can take a lot of damage, unless it's legs are hit. But it's so damn slow and so damn expensive. It's simply a very bad horse considering the price.
But I guess that's the point. We don't want to have too many of them on the battlefield.

Also, it's just too ugly.
Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on October 08, 2012, 12:11:37 am
Quote from: Torben on October 07, 2012, 11:45:03 pm
how would it be to quintuple the plated chargers price but then actually give it more use than that of a shielded sumpter?

when i started this game as a peasant it was a beast to be feared,  now its just laughable.

it was beast only because 2 people on server used pikes, and xp system made people group up ;] but yeah its pretty much useless horse
Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Torben on October 08, 2012, 12:24:33 am
Quote from: Chagan_Arslan on October 08, 2012, 12:11:37 am
it was beast only because 2 people on server used pikes, and xp system made people group up ;] but yeah its pretty much useless horse

it was fast enough to do some damage back then,  bump wise as well as speed bonus wise.  its even to high to be a proper 1h/shielders option,  for which it would be quite nice otherwise. 

Quote from: Riddaren on October 08, 2012, 12:10:07 am
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if the price was high enough,  it would only show up very scarcely on the field,  it would almost be an event : )
Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 08, 2012, 12:28:22 am
I suggest giving it 1000hp and 100 body armor (and 100 leg armor), then nerfing its speed to 15, its charge to 30, and its maneuver to 30.
It'd make it a completely unique playstyle.
Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Torben on October 08, 2012, 12:31:14 am
or make it fly?

http://forum.meleegaming.com/suggestions-corner/add-flying-to-the-mod/msg624003/#msg624003
Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Havoco on October 08, 2012, 12:32:21 am
Itd be better if they put wings on it and had it drop explosive shit.
Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: _GTX_ on October 08, 2012, 12:32:47 am
So u want to make something OP on purpose. And the disadvantage will be that its really expensive?
Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 08, 2012, 12:34:02 am
Quote from: Torben on October 08, 2012, 12:31:14 am
or make it fly?

http://forum.meleegaming.com/suggestions-corner/add-flying-to-the-mod/msg624003/#msg624003
All horses and people with 1 or more flying skill should be able to fly, people with less than 0 flying skill should fall through solid matter.
Submit or be shit'd on by flying goats and seagulls!
Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Osiris on October 08, 2012, 12:36:14 am
x4 to price. make it unrearable  :twisted: expensive pikewall destroyer ftw
Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Torben on October 08, 2012, 12:40:15 am
Quote from: _GTX_ on October 08, 2012, 12:32:47 am
So u want to make something OP on purpose. And the disadvantage will be that its really expensive?

imagine a greatsword with autoblocker but 40 speed 12 cut damage attack.  although it has knockdown,  its worth jack.

I want it to be of some sort of use,  and to not make it op (as horses tend to become "op" only in masses)  it would have to be very very expensive.

Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Winterly on October 08, 2012, 12:54:43 am
Yep worthless horse indeed.  Add a few hills in the maps (and most maps have some sort of incline used by archers), and you really have a piece of work.
Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Joker86 on October 08, 2012, 01:40:08 am
I am just hoping that they will change the entire multiplier/upkeep system to something which actually achieves real balance, and not some kind of fake balance through either temporarily limiting the use of OP items (which doesn't make them any less OP in the moment they are used), and/or nerfing too strong items that heavily that there is only little use in using them (plated armour, armoured horses...), as different viability limits choices, and this is not a sign of balance.

To further extend my reputation of a broken record: Some time ago I suggested a system where equipment value was bought with a skill. So players could either have good skills and bad equipment, or poor skills and great equipment, or something in between those extremes. Such a system would remove the need of creating items of varying viability and "artificially" encourage the usage of good, but not best items, like what we have now.

With such a system you could not only ride your dear plated charger as long as you want, the horse would actually be worth something. You would just have to pay it with incredibly bad character stats, limiting a full plated rider on a plated charger to something like 3 or 6 AGI or the like, keeping things balanced and yet different and entertaining. And I don't think that you would have too many plated chargers, even with this system.
Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Dalfador on October 08, 2012, 01:50:26 am
Have you ever seen Xeen use it in siege...?
Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Rebelyell on October 08, 2012, 02:12:40 am
make it like tank, nothing can stop it, x5 to hp and its fine :P
Title: Re: giving the plated charger a purpose...
Post by: Carthage on October 08, 2012, 02:19:06 am
I hate it on those tiny siege maps! Because it just rams everyone off the battlements