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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Miley on April 16, 2011, 03:37:56 am

Title: Archer Melee and Special Head Armor!
Post by: Miley on April 16, 2011, 03:37:56 am
Archers with a war bow or a long bow should have the option to press "x" to make their bow a melee weapon. It could be used quickly to block, like if someone snuck up on you. It shouldn't do much damage at all, though, but be used mostly for blocking. If a wooden stick can block an attack, I think a bow could!

A head armor that I think should be added is like a mask thing, except that it doesn't cover all the face. It could maybe be like a horseshoe shaped piece of metal that covers the forehead and down the two cheeks. I'd like something like that so that I can have some head armor WHILE showing my hair and face and stuff.
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Post by: Life on April 16, 2011, 03:47:04 am
the bow thing sounds pretty stupid
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Post by: Opium.dk on April 16, 2011, 03:53:03 am
No.
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Post by: Lizard_man on April 16, 2011, 03:56:17 am
yes, i like this idea, though the bow should have crush through... :shock:
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Post by: Miley on April 16, 2011, 04:35:29 am
No crushthrough! :x
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Post by: Lizard_man on April 16, 2011, 04:43:15 am
sorry, i had to have a laugh, on a serious note, the bow would break, it just isn't strong enough to take such a blow, or to deal it for that matter...
Title: Re: Archer Melee and Special Head Armor!
Post by: Miley on April 16, 2011, 05:20:21 am
sorry, i had to have a laugh, on a serious note, the bow would break, it just isn't strong enough to take such a blow, or to deal it for that matter...

What about a wooden stick, torch, practice sword, etc?
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Post by: Grey on April 16, 2011, 05:34:20 am
I have been saying this for ages....Staffs, sticks, clubs can block Pole Axes, and we have to assume "blocking" means deflecting the blow, since  a poleaxe would leave your staff as 2 nice sticks if u tried an ACTUAL block Warband style, so....

....why not bows? Im fine with them doing 5 or 10 blunt dmg, or EVEN no melee at all, just let me block with it, would be possible to show what "mode" its in also by swapping hands, or using polearm stance (both hands on the bow).

Since its light it will suffer "stuntime" when blocking most big weapons anyway, and only skilled players will be able to use this to survive...

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Post by: Lizard_man on April 16, 2011, 05:42:23 am
yeah, that's a fair enough comment, the practice sword would probably be able to take on another sword without breaking, an axe, probably not, the torch with it's thickness would probably be alot stronger than you think, some of the other weapons would be able to take a swing from the side, a swing from above would probably break it, as for the bow, it would not be able to take the force at all, a swing from a weapon would push it back and you would take a hit, it probably wouldn't even break because it's too flimsy...
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Post by: Opium.dk on April 16, 2011, 06:02:06 am
No.
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Post by: Baron_Settmour on April 16, 2011, 07:16:08 am
Bows were made of yew, horn, bone,  or other material that was flexible enough to be bent. Nothing you would want to rely on to parry a blow. Whereas the handles of polearms were made from sturdier and denser woods like ash which can take a real beating. Especially when you are doing the 2 types of blocks used in C-RPG where the energy of the striking blow would be transferred throughout the length of the weapon as well as your arms. A bow doesn't have that surface density to absorb a blow.

Or as the previous poster said...

No.
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Post by: Safavid on April 16, 2011, 08:26:54 am
Using the bow as a weapon and to block would be fine, that is how it was used in real life...sometimes even to stab with.  Unlike most people on c-rpg or warband, I am a real archer as well as a Kendoka.  :)
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Post by: Cyclopsided on April 16, 2011, 10:30:15 am
Devs already said no to this idea. You cna go find the quote if you'd like. Bows will not get melee option.
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Post by: Beauchamp on April 16, 2011, 11:43:45 am
and 2handers could shoot to equall it out  :mrgreen:

pure archers would get to nice buff imo and people would be taking more stacks of arrows resulting in more ranged spam, i'm against it... and i have a pure archer alt that i play more than my main lately.
Title: Re: Archer Melee and Special Head Armor!
Post by: Miley on April 16, 2011, 05:39:08 pm
Bows were made of yew, horn, bone,  or other material that was flexible enough to be bent. Nothing you would want to rely on to parry a blow. Whereas the handles of polearms were made from sturdier and denser woods like ash which can take a real beating. Especially when you are doing the 2 types of blocks used in C-RPG where the energy of the striking blow would be transferred throughout the length of the weapon as well as your arms. A bow doesn't have that surface density to absorb a blow.

Or as the previous poster said...

No.

Since when was this mod realistic?
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Post by: Baron_Settmour on April 16, 2011, 08:22:53 pm
Since when was this mod realistic?

No.
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Post by: Teeth on April 16, 2011, 08:32:44 pm
No.
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Post by: Opium.dk on April 16, 2011, 08:54:02 pm
No.
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Post by: EponiCo on April 16, 2011, 09:08:41 pm
A head armor that I think should be added is like a mask thing, except that it doesn't cover all the face. It could maybe be like a horseshoe shaped piece of metal that covers the forehead and down the two cheeks. I'd like something like that so that I can have some head armor WHILE showing my hair and face and stuff.

Well ... a horseshoe is kind of silly.
But I've never understood why every helm obscures all hair.

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Title: Re: Archer Melee and Special Head Armor!
Post by: Miley on April 17, 2011, 04:54:00 am
Well ... a horseshoe is kind of silly.
But I've never understood why every helm obscures all hair.

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I don't mean a horseshoe -.-
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Post by: Havoco on April 17, 2011, 04:57:57 am
Think it should be an arrow instead. Like a bad stab-only dagger
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Post by: MrShine on April 17, 2011, 05:42:20 am
I say no based on the balance side.  Not a horrible idea, but not necessary.
Title: Re: Archer Melee and Special Head Armor!
Post by: Black Wind on April 17, 2011, 06:06:50 am
Bows as melee weapons? How proposterous!

Archers who melee with their bow would be even more OP than bloody throwing lances.

They choose to build an archer, yet QQ when they don't have enough time to pull a melee wep out to fend off a backslasher. It is their responsibility to look around, and observe dangers.

Basically, this would defeat the weakness of becoming an archer..

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Post by: Hauptmann on April 20, 2011, 01:11:01 am
Bows as melee weapons? How proposterous!

Archers who melee with their bow would be even more OP than bloody throwing lances.

They choose to build an archer, yet QQ when they don't have enough time to pull a melee wep out to fend off a backslasher. It is their responsibility to look around, and observe dangers.

Basically, this would defeat the weakness of becoming an archer..
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Post by: mandible/splinteryourjaw on May 15, 2011, 01:33:04 am
We could cut the bowstring, bend the bow back against itself, and flick people...and they think we are annoying now, just imagine running around taunting and flicking a tincan!!!!!!!
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Post by: Tzar on May 15, 2011, 01:43:20 am
Regarding the special archer hat may i suggest this one.

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 :lol:
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Post by: Radix on May 15, 2011, 01:53:21 am
Using the bow as a weapon and to block would be fine, that is how it was used in real life...sometimes even to stab with.  Unlike most people on c-rpg or warband, I am a real archer as well as a Kendoka.  :)

I am not sure if u are having a laugh or u are really serious. I hope u are having a laugh.
Title: Re: Archer Melee and Special Head Armor!
Post by: Miley on May 15, 2011, 02:08:14 am
Regarding the special archer hat may i suggest this one.

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 :lol:

I don't know why people use that as an insult. It's so homophobic, and if you know you're not, then why let it offend you?
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Post by: Dezilagel on May 15, 2011, 02:15:47 am
and 2handers could shoot to equall it out  :mrgreen:

pure archers would get to nice buff imo and people would be taking more stacks of arrows resulting in more ranged spam, i'm against it... and i have a pure archer alt that i play more than my main lately.

+1

3 'looms to gief master sword... Yes plox XD
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Post by: Rumblood on May 15, 2011, 02:56:15 am
Regarding the special archer hat may i suggest this one.

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 :lol:

Not sure why this is more acceptable than a word that starts with N and ends with R. Just hate speech.
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Post by: Glyph on May 15, 2011, 09:33:41 am
I don't know why people use that as an insult. It's so homophobic, and if you know you're not, then why let it offend you?
didn't you see the southpark episode about it officially meaning "anoying harley riders that nobody likes"?
i did :lol:
Title: Re: Archer Melee and Special Head Armor!
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 15, 2011, 05:52:34 pm
Archers need to die when melee attacks them, we don't need to give them even more delaying abilities. I mean, some of them already have horses...
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Post by: Bulzur on May 15, 2011, 07:25:06 pm
Archers need to die when melee attacks them, we don't need to give them even more delaying abilities. I mean, some of them already have horses...

False. Archers don't have horses ! Horse archers do. It's not the same category of people at all ! Don't put us archers in the same category as thoses cavs wannabee.

On another note, just "NO" to this idea. Just carry a melee weapon and have enough timing to block the first attack with it, and it will be fine.
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Post by: Miley on May 16, 2011, 03:01:27 am
Not sure why this is more acceptable than a word that starts with N and ends with R. Just hate speech.

I agree!
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Post by: HarunYahya on May 16, 2011, 07:10:16 am
Let's add AK-47 !
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Post by: Glyph on May 16, 2011, 09:30:16 am
give the archers a sting with their arrows!

no not really