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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: owens on October 04, 2012, 01:17:49 am
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Before you think "what a wanker" picture this.
Str guys swing fast hitting hard but position/raise their weapons more slowely. Ath (wpf) guys position/raise quickly but swing heavier (slower) weapons a little bit slower than guys with huge PS.
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I pictured it and I still thought: "What a wanker."
Pretty redundant and unintelligent idea overall.
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why?
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Because atm cRPG sucks its own cock.
A change to the game that isnt just statistical that would change gameplay subtely on a more human level is neccesary this was just my little idea. Dont you find it strange that a guy who is meant to be an athlete fights the same way as a muscle dude?
Also dont act like your own shit doesn't stink, bjorn all of your suggestions smell worse than the pope's cock sock.
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Because atm cRPG sucks its own cock.
A change to the game that isnt just statistical that would change gameplay subtely on a more human level is neccesary this was just my little idea. Dont you find it strange that a guy who is meant to be an athlete fights the same way as a muscle dude?
Also dont act like your own shit doesn't stink, bjorn all of your suggestions smell worse than the pope's cock sock.
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Well, realistically swinging faster would mean hitting harder. We can't do that cause it would fuck with the very system builds are based on, so this entire suggestion, meh. Not even talking about the practical difficulties of the suggestion yet.
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^It could be difficult but also maybe not.
I am no expert at coding but replacing one equation with another shouldnt be impossible.
The biggest issue for me is that you fight opponent after opponent and every single fight is the same block, feint, pause, kill, move on. You dont have to think about how you engage each opponent beyond whether they are likely to ignore feints or back pedal.
Wouldnt it be great if each player could be that little bit different to fight super fast feints from ninja's to some powerful heavy swings from tanks.
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Perhaps instead there should be weapons that are the opposite of 'unbalanced'. Balanced weapons would just swing at regular speeds but won't do as much damage. Feinting and such with them would be easier because the center of mass is closer to the grip. Then we can make weapons that simply aren't 'balanced' (I.E. the way they are now, without any modifier) to be slightly more difficult to feint with than they are now and deal normal damage. Then we have the current 'unbalanced' weapons which deal more damage and are harder to feint with.
The thing with different swings with a str vs. agi thing doesn't make too much sense, unless you made weapons specifically designed to be agile like a rapier or something. A strong person can heft and swing weapons around easier than somebody who isn't strong, regardless of what weapon it is and regardless of what part of the swing they're at. Agility in gameplay terms also refers to expertise (WPF) which is different from the ability to heft weapons around. It's just... abstracted... a lot, because of gameplay limitations.
For example, two people wield a mace. One person is strong, so he can swing that fucker really hard and bash skulls in (power strike). The other person is not quite as strong, but he knows how to use his entire body and positioning to put more weight into the swing and thus not swing like a bitch (WPF). Of course, mostly abstracted for gameplay.
As you can see I've put most of my WPF into talking out my ass, but I was never good with words =p
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This kind of boosts str builds even more...
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This kind of boosts str builds even more...
You haven't heard the latest news from Kulin_Ban then. This just in from EU_2. Apparently, STR builds are totally useless, AGI builds are the way to go and AGI is getting buffed sometime in the next day or so because everyone hates Kulin. Also: Jarlek is a lucky-spammer noob that gets sucks dick and gets lucky knockdown with his OP hammer.
OT:
When I first read the subject line, I first thought of something like, if you for example got more 2h wpf than 1h or pole, then you can swing certain 1h or pole weapons in 2h mode. Same with swinging a some 2h swords (bastard comes to mind) in 1h mode if you got enough STR and 1h wpf. Stuff like that. Or getting the 2h stab on a spear if you got AGI and enough 2h wpf.
The change to chamber animation speed and attack animation speed.... Don't really like it. Mainly because having a higher speed on the attack animation is much better than having it on the chamber animation.
I just remembered one thing. Wasn't there a guy who made new animations? I think the current archery animations is from that pack. Maybe the melee animations there could be "unlocked" if you had enough wpf?
Although that one would be a bitch to code.
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You're talking about Papa Lazarou's animations, and yes, everything was redone with his animations. Would be nice to have them replace the current ones, IMO. :)
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Some animations suck ass if you're used to c-rpg/native animations. I've played some pretty terrible mod animations before. Brytenwalda comes to mind for the terrible shield animation (your guy basically holds it "up" at the same height as in native when you have it not blocking). And the diplomacy mod swing animinations are fucking terrible, like every animation starts from the center of your body.
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So there would basically be no point in putting any WPF into polearms, unless maybe you were a hoplite.
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So there would basically be no point in putting any WPF into polearms, unless maybe you were a hoplite.
You would still need pole wpf for all the things wpf gives you. This would just be buff with extra animations for hybrids or people that for some reason had to pick up a weapon outside their class.
And I was just naming 2 examples. That means there are more options available. For example: with enough AGI and pole wpf, you can swing certain polearms on horse, like the Hafted Blade and Long Hafted Blade are now. Or with enough pole wpf you can rear horses with any weapon. Half swording is also one thing, but it's already in game (although you have to manually change to it).
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Most of Papa's animations are horrible. No offense to the man who put a lot of work into it but I think they look shit, most of them at least
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I wouldn't mind a subtle, purely cosmetic change to animations for different builds. It would just be something that would let you get a faster feel for your opponent's build. It would be an significant amount of work for a relatively small payoff, however.
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Wow.
Ignorant Fools.
For a start how would it bufff str builds. It would give low wpf users the slightest effect of a weapon being unbalanced and make wpf lovers no such effect speeding up their weapon placement. This will give rise to a few more balanced build users hopefully.
Anyway game is beyond boring now i have moved on.
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Before you think "what a wanker" picture this.
Str guys swing fast hitting hard but position/raise their weapons more slowely. Ath (wpf) guys position/raise quickly but swing heavier (slower) weapons a little bit slower than guys with huge PS.
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