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Title: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 03, 2012, 08:55:18 pm
Kittiya the most unknown.

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Is getting attacked by Nords without weapons and even naked they where.
The hours went by and even tho our spy's have seen the incoming Eremas__the_ghay coming up from grey lands.
Armed they where and most of them joined the Nord army who suddenly became armed. We belive they would not reach the God chadz two hour limit and it dint yet they where resupplyed. However that might be tomorrow the Nords dine in VALLHALLA.

Now they attacked the wrong force  !!! We are many, We are Armed and Dangerous.

Tomorrow Kittiya will dine in Yayejeg

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 03, 2012, 09:19:02 pm
Will be nice to have a decent open field battle, the enemy will of course be crushed under the ruthless heel of Nord oppression, but we will show mercy too those than surrender.

And remember:

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Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cicero on October 03, 2012, 09:25:36 pm



 Eremas__the_ghay


genius joke
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 03, 2012, 09:42:46 pm
I have a "Yayejeg"  at home

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Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Turboflex on October 03, 2012, 09:46:23 pm
5 hour reinforcement limit not 2 hour.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Haboe on October 03, 2012, 09:49:14 pm
5 hour reinforcement limit not 2 hour.

Wasn't it 5 hours for defenders 2 hours for attackers?

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 03, 2012, 10:30:26 pm
Wasn't it 5 hours for defenders 2 hours for attackers?

correct, we had 15 minutes to spare with the reinforcement.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 03, 2012, 11:04:38 pm
correct, we had 15 minutes to spare with the reinforcement.
To bad for you, would be better to loose 250 unarmed men then loosing with a borrowed Grey army :D

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 03, 2012, 11:13:38 pm
 :P winning loosing, everything in the balance :D
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Lizard_man on October 03, 2012, 11:13:43 pm
I'm probably going to miss this... :cry:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Miwiw on October 03, 2012, 11:20:19 pm
And now the vile and cruel mercs attacked a peaceful member of the Kingdom of Nord. It seems they try to seek revenge for the other "attack" they provoked themselves. It's no time to bend the knee to mercenaries.

The Kingdom of Nords strikes back!

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=480
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Erasmas on October 03, 2012, 11:43:18 pm
Dear Ginger Pussy,

Can I call you just Pussy? Thanks, its so sweet... so:

Dear Pussy,

Why don’t you explain first what the hell have you Kittiya been doing in Nords' land, unarmed and with 300 crates of goodies? Was she looking for an easy opportunity to get her ass banged by uncivilized nordmen? Or maybe she was on a mission to ruin Nords economy by buying and selling goods in the next fief without major gain, just to use up the points in Nords' fiefs? That sounds to me like, well, well, an exploit, especially that there is no easy way to prevent it.

Listen up! Mercs are exploiting!


That really sucks, don’t you think, dear Pussy? That sucks even more than allowing for clan switching to have an excuse to break the word given earlier or starting battles in the middle of the night. Or raising flamewars on forum just to justify your own plots and misbehaviour.  Shame on you, dear Pussy, shame on you!

And thank Nocti for bringing this:

Ginger, kittiya should make these posts before multi account crap starts again

We all know how it really is, don’t we?  And let me remind you that it is a banable offence,  just for the records. So tell me how is it really – is it a Pussy’s Kittiya or Kittiya’s Pussy who is trying to run this mischievous plan huh?

[EDIT: my apologies, this part crossed the line]. Fight well, Nords and good luck!
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 03, 2012, 11:54:38 pm
Dear Ginger Pussy,

Can I call you just Pussy? Thanks, its so sweet... so:

Dear Pussy,

Why don’t you explain first what the hell have you Kittiya been doing in Nords' land, unarmed and with 300 crates of goodies? Was she looking for an easy opportunity to get her ass banged by uncivilized nordmen? Or maybe she was on a mission to ruin Nords economy by buying and selling goods in the next fief without major gain, just to use up the points in Nords fiefs? That sounds to me like, well, well, an exploit, especially that there is no way easy to prevent it.

Listen up! Mercs are exploiting!


That really sucks, don’t you think, dear Pussy? That sucks even more than allowing for clan switching to have an excuse to break the word given earlier or starting battles in the middle of the night. Or raising flamewars on forum just to justify your own plots and misbehaviour.  Shame on you, dear Pussy, shame on you!

And thank Nocti for bringing this:

We all know how it really is, don’t we?  And let me remind you that it is a banable offence,  just for the records. So tell me how is it really – is it a Pussy’s Kittiya or Kittiya’s Pussy who is trying to run this mischievous plan huh?

Anyway, I just hope that this pussy will be properly fucked tomorrow. Fight well, Nords and good luck!

Call an admin and find the dates (its almost everyday) when kittiya and ginger are playing together then talk and you are talking about someone's wife like that. Most importantly my friend's wife.
Nords were the first one attacked to Merc territory and entered territory, whats your place to talk about it?
They also hired Ribes Krigere to attack Merc caravans and mess with S&D now get the fuck out with your biased crap

I thought you were slightly smarter among Greys, you are just another ass backward biased prick. I don't know what you did drink but get the fuck out of here.
asap.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Erasmas on October 03, 2012, 11:57:28 pm
Nocti, I was invited here...

I just bring the discussion down to dear Pussy's level.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Casimir on October 03, 2012, 11:59:38 pm
Or maybe she was on a mission to ruin Nords economy by buying and selling goods in the next fief without major gain, just to use up the points in Nords' fiefs? That sounds to me like, well, well, an exploit, especially that there is no easy way to prevent it.

Listen up! Mercs are exploiting!


Attacks upon peoples economy surely is a feature and not a bug?

Its working as intended?
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Erasmas on October 04, 2012, 12:02:40 am
If it is working as intended, expect a lot of traders...
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Post by: Cepeshi on October 04, 2012, 12:04:56 am
Attacks upon peoples economy surely is a feature and not a bug?

Its working as intended?

Greys not sure what is good and what is bad? I guess that explains a lot  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Lizard_man on October 04, 2012, 12:06:23 am
If it is working as intended, expect a lot of traders...

Expect them to never make it to there destination... :|
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cepeshi on October 04, 2012, 12:07:26 am
i expect lots of battles, okey guys?
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Bjord on October 04, 2012, 12:12:20 am
Greys yelling about exploits, now I've seen it all.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 04, 2012, 12:12:52 am
Nocti, I was invited here...

I just bring the discussion down to dear Pussy's level.

I don't care who invited here with which intention you just made a fucked up post. Harpag was raging when Bjord said, "your mom cleans our toilets in Sweden" then your post?"
Congrats man you just made an ass out of yourself, bravo.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Casimir on October 04, 2012, 12:20:45 am
If it is working as intended, expect a lot of traders...

Send your traders, and we'll send back the coffins free of charge.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Erasmas on October 04, 2012, 12:23:02 am
Nocti, should I add "invited by Gingerpussy"?  I thought it was obvious. No enough apparently. If you want to tell Harpag something, tell that to him, I don't even know what you are talking about. 

You are smart, Nocti, and you know how to derail folks attention from the real issue. And, in fact, I think there is an issue.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 04, 2012, 12:25:49 am
Nocti, should I add "invited by Gingerpussy"?  I thought it was obvious. No enough apparently. If you want to tell Harpag something, tell that to him, I don't even know what you are talking about. 

You are smart, Nocti, and you know how to derail folks attention from the real issue. And, in fact, I think there is an issue.
haha ROFL LOL Yeah i invited you to give Nords a army so they could fight. hahahaha

hahaha

still laughing. ...

and to harpagharpagharpag or others wanna start flame war... gimme a break i invented trolling :D So not replying to ur post . hahah hehe hihih hahaha
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Lizard_man on October 04, 2012, 12:27:28 am
I think there is an issue.

The issue here, is you!
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Tennenoth on October 04, 2012, 12:27:53 am
Dear Ginger Pussy,

Can I call you just Pussy? Thanks, its so sweet... so:

Dear Pussy,

Why don’t you explain first what the hell have you Kittiya been doing in Nords' land, unarmed and with 300 crates of goodies? Was she looking for an easy opportunity to get her ass banged by uncivilized nordmen? Or maybe she was on a mission to ruin Nords economy by buying and selling goods in the next fief without major gain, just to use up the points in Nords' fiefs? That sounds to me like, well, well, an exploit, especially that there is no easy way to prevent it.

Listen up! Mercs are exploiting!


That really sucks, don’t you think, dear Pussy? That sucks even more than allowing for clan switching to have an excuse to break the word given earlier or starting battles in the middle of the night. Or raising flamewars on forum just to justify your own plots and misbehaviour.  Shame on you, dear Pussy, shame on you!

And thank Nocti for bringing this:

We all know how it really is, don’t we?  And let me remind you that it is a banable offence,  just for the records. So tell me how is it really – is it a Pussy’s Kittiya or Kittiya’s Pussy who is trying to run this mischievous plan huh?

Anyway, I just hope that this pussy will be properly fucked tomorrow. Fight well, Nords and good luck!

Exploiting the economy..? That's not an exploit as in terms of something being unintentional, if you can manipulate the market around your enemies causing them to weaken their supplies, then surely thats just being clever?

Also, before you start slandering people about multiaccounting, try and get some substantial evidence and contact someone privately. There is no reason to try and start an age old campaign other than to just stir people up. What are you playing at?

"Or raising flamewars on forum just to justify your own plots and misbehaviour." - With all due respect, that appears to be exactly what you're currently doing. I'm nothing to do with this, I am taking a minimal participation in strategus and I rarely, I mean rarely enter these discussions but more or less have to take an interest now when I get a reported post. I can see why it was reported since it is nothing more than unfounded accusations in a bid to shake people up into attacking you.

I don't want this taken any further please, if you genuinely have concerns over Kittiya then take it up with someone who can do something about it, not publically announce it.

Nocti, should I add "invited by Gingerpussy"?  I thought it was obvious. No enough apparently. If you want to tell Harpag something, tell that to him, I don't even know what you are talking about. 

You are smart, Nocti, and you know how to derail folks attention from the real issue. And, in fact, I think there is an issue.


I repeat myself; "if you genuinely have concerns over Kittiya then take it up with someone who can do something about it, not publically announce it."
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Tyr_ on October 04, 2012, 12:28:14 am

Or maybe she was on a mission to ruin Nords economy by buying and selling goods in the next fief without major gain, just to use up the points in Nords' fiefs? That sounds to me like, well, well, an exploit, especially that there is no easy way to prevent it.

Listen up! Mercs are exploiting!




Erasmus, have you ever heard the word "economical warfare"?
A reason for Kittiya being in Nords territory and messing around with their S&D, em, let me think, maybe because Nords and Mercenaries are at war with each other?
Unlike some other factions :rolleyes: we are neither exploiting nor cheating, not in the past, not now and not in the future, if we find a bug we are going to report it. And as long as I am a Merc Leader i will kick everyone who is cheating or exploiting out of Mercenaries immediatly.
Especially your clan should watch each step carefully when it comes to accusing someone of multiaccounting, unfortunately some executive parts of this community are way to mercifull.
Except for the point of you reinforcing the army that attacked Kittiya this is between Nords and Mercenaries, and therefore nothing of you concern, so please do us a favor and fuck off harvesting some aspargus instead of spreading your underdeveloped thoughts on the forum.

Ps: looking forward to a nice battle with you guys, tbh i was a little bit disappointed in the beginning because i thought you wouldnt be able to get reinforcements which wouldve made that battle a quick spawnrape, but aparently i have the wrong numbers in my memory when it comes to reinforcing time :wink:

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Erasmas on October 04, 2012, 12:55:24 am
Tyr, so I understand that it indeed was a deliberate Merc's action aiming in messing up the Nord's economy.

The question if it is a part of the legit warfare, or rather using the game mechanism to the purpose that wasn't not intended to serve, is an open issue. I and I think it is a fair question that should be raised.

So - let me ignore your innuendos and offensive tone, and ask the community what they think of that.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on October 04, 2012, 01:00:55 am
That sounds to me like, well, well, an exploit, especially that there is no easy way to prevent it.

Well well well Era - I call you Era if that okey for you? Thanks Era! - I think the main problem you have there is that the only possible ways to stop other people from takeing your S&D require some active effort on your part.
Maybe if you cant handle your S&D in the fiefs you hold you have too many fiefs and overextended yourselfs?
A lot of big historical empires collapsed because of similar problems of overextention. (Europa Universalis players will know what I am talking about ;) ).

But calling this an exploit shows that you think the S&D of a village belongs to the village owner. That is simply not true. I think it is intentional that EVERYONE can buy/sell at ANY fief. € And i am sure this was implimented this was intentional.
Calling the Mercs exploiters for this is just proving me that you did understand this change OR just dont like it.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cepeshi on October 04, 2012, 01:01:18 am
Tyr, so I understand that it indeed was a deliberate Merc's action aiming in messing up the Nord's economy.

The question if it is a part of the legit warfare, or rather using the game mechanism to the purpose that wasn't not intended to serve, is an open issue. I and I think it is a fair question that should be raised.

So - let me ignore your innuendos and offensive tone, and ask the community what they think of that.

I hereby think that the S&D was implemented also as one more mean how to annoy your enemies. Why not?
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Post by: Harafat on October 04, 2012, 01:03:41 am
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Yes, hurting the enemy economy in a war is an exploit and should be taken into the Geneve-convention. Its more moral and strategicly to bomb civilians and schools instead of the factories. In all the wars of the last, what, all of time mankind has walked this earth, economics have been the 1st target of sensible leaders. Ok, stupid me. Should've realised sensible.
Honestly, if you guys only have figured out this yet, then i wish you a lot of luck for the rest of strategus.

Ofcourse economies will be targeted. With S/D introduced, you're basicly introducing a local economy, which should be protected by its owners and targetted by the enemies. This happens IRL since the dawn of man. And then you go on to flamewars. Wow, causing your enemy to go into a massive flame, must mean you're doing it wrong. When you're enemy is calm and sober in his decisions, it must mean you're doing it right.

What do you think, that we are in a gentlemens agreement here? Yes, you bring you're army there at that time, we'll do as well, and we will make sure that after that you will have an economy back home to bring another army to fight us?

A grey on a about possible exploits that are game-features? I must be in a parallel universe. Think be4 you speak, or decide to sober up be4 you speak.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 04, 2012, 01:06:07 am
Im not going into this flamewar or any forum war. but i want facts to emerge. and correct this statement.
I am not messing with S&D

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A reason for Kittiya being in Nords territory and messing around with their S&D, em, let me think, maybe because Nords and Mercenaries are at war with each other?
kittiya bought for 6 gold and alittle tax, she intend to sell for 24 minus bonus and still make a profit. just have to kill some Nord grey army.

and for the record Kittiya is my Wife and she played 28 generation i belive.

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Bjord on October 04, 2012, 01:10:15 am
Tyr, so I understand that it indeed was a deliberate Merc's action aiming in messing up the Nord's economy.

The question if it is a part of the legit warfare, or rather using the game mechanism to the purpose that wasn't not intended to serve, is an open issue. I and I think it is a fair question that should be raised.

So - let me ignore your innuendos and offensive tone, and ask the community what they think of that.


Stop trying to sound smart and act like it instead. Screwing up someone's economy is a legit tactic, just because you and the other 50 Shades of Grey consider it an exploit or haven't considered it at all doesn't mean it is an exploit or that others haven't considered it.

And it's fucking hilarious how you're taking the moral role of "raising debate" about exploits and unfair play. Take a look at your past, and then lecture us about "fair play". What a fucking joke, if I ever saw one.

Also I really recommend you watch your words about Kittiya, last guy who thought it was a good idea to harass her was Panos. Do you see him around? No?

Now get the fuck out, you absolute embarassment of a person.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cepeshi on October 04, 2012, 01:26:17 am
Stop trying to sound smart and act like it instead. Screwing up someone's economy is a legit tactic, just because you and the other 50 Shades of Grey consider it an exploit or haven't considered it at all doesn't mean it is an exploit or that others haven't considered it.

And it's fucking hilarious how you're taking the moral role of "raising debate" about exploits and unfair play. Take a look at your past, and then lecture us about "fair play". What a fucking joke, if I ever saw one.

Also I really recommend you watch your words about Kittiya, last guy who thought it was a good idea to harass her was Panos. Do you see him around? No?

Now get the fuck out, you absolute embarassment of a person.

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 04, 2012, 01:29:21 am
That sounds to me like, well, well, an exploit, especially that there is no easy way to prevent it.


On the contrary, I think that you will find it easy to prevent if you start attacking undesirable traders. I suggest that you polish your blades and march forth to war to keep these ruffians from bribing your serfs and taking these goods.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on October 04, 2012, 01:38:40 am

On the contrary, I think that you will find it easy to prevent if you start attacking undesirable traders. I suggest that you polish your blades and march forth to war to keep these ruffians from bribing your serfs and taking these goods.

Maybe that is to much active effort for he avarage grey minion.

But basicly: Harafat and Bjord summed it up for me!
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Torben on October 04, 2012, 01:39:39 am
is all this trashtalking a metagame of strat,  like in those WWF fights?

still dont get it.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Harafat on October 04, 2012, 01:47:18 am
is all this trashtalking a metagame of strat,  like in those WWF fights?

still dont get it.

you do get it. This is basicly dickwaving before the fight!
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Torben on October 04, 2012, 01:52:12 am
you do get it. This is basicly dickwaving before the fight!

nice,  I´m a wiser man now and dont have to worry anymore.  Thanks a bunch : )
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cepeshi on October 04, 2012, 01:56:50 am
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Post by: Harafat on October 04, 2012, 02:08:10 am
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hawk and animal , my young days.

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Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Vovka on October 04, 2012, 08:14:59 am
The saddest part of all this is that on this forum is becoming the norm to change the name to "Ghay, ghay order" "Pussy" and etc.

And sad to see what became mercenaries. Nocti, Ginger, Dave nice team  :P
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 04, 2012, 09:01:16 am
The saddest part of all this is that on this forum is becoming the norm to change the name to "Ghay, ghay order" "Pussy" and etc.

And sad to see what became mercenaries. Nocti, Ginger, Dave nice team  :P
This shows how immature you are Vovka.  I stepped down from leadership a long time ago and there are new Merc leaders and have been for awhile.

I know many other clans run there core with hard discipline, in Mercs EVERY member have a say. Not every clan can say that, right Vovka-----

I think the matches up North will be fun and even tho it may seem like we are really bad enemies here. There are friends amongst both sides.
The battles will be good.


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Post by: Vovka on October 04, 2012, 09:25:52 am
in Mercs EVERY member have a say. Not every clan can say that, right Vovka-----
Same in DRZ
but I do not see 100500 posts from drz members cursing the opponents  :P (post to SB on our ru forum  do not count  :mrgreen:)
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 04, 2012, 09:31:49 am
Same in DRZ
but I do not see 100500 posts from drz members cursing the opponents  :P (post to SB on our ru forum  do not count  :mrgreen:)
I am not cursing anyone. If you read the post again i find it only hilarious that Nords attacked us after some trickery peace talk thingy. And then they cant even get a army alone.
They have to get help from the greys. Yeah that i find funny and a reason to post on forums.

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: KingBread on October 04, 2012, 09:33:36 am
Trading => Exploiting

SmoothRich allready pointed that out. We trade arabian oil for hard money and bribe enemies => Exploiting

Buying bread in local shop => exploiting (cos mayby somebody will come after me and will not get one)

There is no way to disagree with Sasmas (can i call you like that ?).

But anyway they just went to war and what is wrong with it ? They could attack everybody's wifes that how game works. Even if she would not exploit/trade.

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gnjus on October 04, 2012, 09:38:47 am
I like Kittya.
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Post by: Haboe on October 04, 2012, 09:42:38 am
Dear Ginger Pussy,

Can I call you just Pussy? Thanks, its so sweet... so:

Dear Pussy,

Why don’t you explain first what the hell have you Kittiya been doing in Nords' land, unarmed and with 300 crates of goodies? Was she looking for an easy opportunity to get her ass banged by uncivilized nordmen? Or maybe she was on a mission to ruin Nords economy by buying and selling goods in the next fief without major gain, just to use up the points in Nords' fiefs? That sounds to me like, well, well, an exploit, especially that there is no easy way to prevent it.

Listen up! Mercs are exploiting!


That really sucks, don’t you think, dear Pussy? That sucks even more than allowing for clan switching to have an excuse to break the word given earlier or starting battles in the middle of the night. Or raising flamewars on forum just to justify your own plots and misbehaviour.  Shame on you, dear Pussy, shame on you!

And thank Nocti for bringing this:

We all know how it really is, don’t we?  And let me remind you that it is a banable offence,  just for the records. So tell me how is it really – is it a Pussy’s Kittiya or Kittiya’s Pussy who is trying to run this mischievous plan huh?

[EDIT: my apologies, this part crossed the line]. Fight well, Nords and good luck!

Its rather simple. In real life, if you are at war, you burn down their crops, steal their cattle and leave nothing behind if you leave. Kittiya is buying in your fiefs, selling in your fiefs. You even gets taxes for it... There is a reason the S&D is limited, its because its important, and you should protect it. You said nothing could be done about it? If you don't want foreigners to trade in your lands to protect your S&D, you make sure you have an army ready at the border to stop them.


No need to start a flamewar for every time someone uses actual strategy/ tactics in the game, or for every time you lose or get outsmarted.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Harpag on October 04, 2012, 01:05:43 pm
Hi guys. I'm here to tell you that you are right and Erasmas is wrong  :)

Wasting S&D points in opponents villages is necessary and appropriate. S&D terrorism is primary and natural technique in Strategus 4. It's not exploiting, it's a completely honest approach to the game. I'm glad that you think like me  :wink:

It's a pity that the result will be that both sides will have less money to buy equipment and therefore will be less cool battles, but it doesn't matter, because it's not about fun battles just about winning the game. It's not ruining Strategus and is fine  :P

There will come a time that you will be on your knees to beg us for mercy, but you will not find it here. This is your last chance to talk about the Geneva Convention  :twisted:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: DaveUKR on October 04, 2012, 01:13:37 pm
Same in DRZ
but I do not see 100500 posts from drz members cursing the opponents  :P (post to SB on our ru forum  do not count  :mrgreen:)

That's only because they can't speak English. They're active in russian forums instead. Vovka, come back here when you, Nebun and others will be able to rule faction without multiaccounts, the whole Russian community knows all Druzhinas alt cd-keys because your members can't hold their tongue in mouth. Inb4 Nebun says they're all his real life brothers :D

Anyway, I just hope that this pussy will be properly fucked tomorrow.

Yesterday when I was talking to Andswaru in IRC I said that Hetman and Erasmas are pretty much nice guys, but now I take my words back. I didn't think you're that retard speaking such shit about Ginger's wife. I take it as a personal insult of me and I'll kill you with a special satisfaction.
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Post by: Harpag on October 04, 2012, 01:20:38 pm
Yesterday when I was talking to Andswaru in IRC I said that Hetman and Erasmas are pretty much nice guys, but now I take my words back. I didn't think you're that retard speaking such shit about Ginger's wife. I take it as a personal insult of me and I'll kill you with a special satisfaction.

You're right, in Grey Order only I'm pretty much nice guy  :lol:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gnjus on October 04, 2012, 01:34:51 pm
Yesterday when I was talking to Andswaru in IRC I said that Hetman and Erasmas are pretty much nice guys, but now I take my words back. I didn't think you're that retard speaking such shit about Ginger's wife. I take it as a personal insult of me and I'll kill you with a special satisfaction.

No offense Cosmonaut Andropov but you're starting to sound exactly the same as a certain Turk i used to know back in my time.......  :wink:

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Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Osiris on October 04, 2012, 01:36:05 pm
S&D what is this O.o have i slipped into Call of Duty  :shock:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Oberyn on October 04, 2012, 02:28:52 pm
To be honest I don't see this as anything fun or positive. It's like in past Strats giving 1 of every item to enemy armies or fiefs just so they wouldn't be able to use their own equip as it got lost past dozens of others of the same type. You could legitimately have called that "clever" and "disrupting" enemy through trade mechanics, but really it was just ubber gay.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Haboe on October 04, 2012, 03:16:04 pm
Hi guys. I'm here to tell you that you are right and Erasmas is wrong  :)

Wasting S&D points in opponents villages is necessary and appropriate. S&D terrorism is primary and natural technique in Strategus 4. It's not exploiting, it's a completely honest approach to the game. I'm glad that you think like me  :wink:

It's a pity that the result will be that both sides will have less money to buy equipment and therefore will be less cool battles, but it doesn't matter, because it's not about fun battles just about winning the game. It's not ruining Strategus and is fine  :P

There will come a time that you will be on your knees to beg us for mercy, but you will not find it here. This is your last chance to talk about the Geneva Convention  :twisted:

The fact that nords failed to stop kittiya from buying goods doesnt mean everyone will. This system encourages more big open field battles because you actually are motivated to guard your borders.

Also, in what way is plated gear vs plated gear more fun then med/heavy gear vs med/heavy gear?
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Post by: Noctivagant on October 04, 2012, 04:28:51 pm
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Another one  :twisted:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 04, 2012, 05:18:58 pm
To be honest I don't see this as anything fun or positive. It's like in past Strats giving 1 of every item to enemy armies or fiefs just so they wouldn't be able to use their own equip as it got lost past dozens of others of the same type. You could legitimately have called that "clever" and "disrupting" enemy through trade mechanics, but really it was just ubber gay.

Yep... But too be fair, although unless it happens again after Kittaya leaves/is destroyed Nords wont be doing it, at least the mercs did it a decent way and sent 700 men.. this is abusable without end to be honest.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 04, 2012, 05:27:46 pm
Yep... But too be fair, although unless it happens again after Kittaya leaves/is destroyed Nords wont be doing it, at least the mercs did it a decent way and sent 700 men.. this is abusable without end to be honest.
Yes Mercs are always honest, but truth hurts sometimes and we are sometimes misunderstood.

We took a 700 men army bought goods and tried to go to other city to sell it for 24 gold. We got attacked by Nords.
And then Victory. i went into Haen, but it had suddenly drooped all most 700 SD without traders there. Hmmmmm weird
i sold some stuff to and used up there SD in that fief. Then i suddenly update thir, and it went from 1300 to 700 then to 500 then to 300 and then 0 at the end.

So Nords really eight er buy up all the goods for 20 gold each or they buy sell in same fief getting a -10 gold a pice.
Eight er way i think that form of warfare is a bit dirty.  We at least was honest and didn't send 100 men false army and sell buy in same fief.

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 04, 2012, 05:31:47 pm
Yep... But too be fair, although unless it happens again after Kittaya leaves/is destroyed Nords wont be doing it, at least the mercs did it a decent way and sent 700 men.. this is abusable without end to be honest.

I believe you two have a very different point of view about it but one of the main reason behind it is : keeping people mindful about their borders, so no longer leaving to character to auto grind. Second reason is implementing more economy than mindless gangbang. It obviously need improvements indeed.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 04, 2012, 05:41:48 pm
Yes Mercs are always honest, but truth hurts sometimes and we are sometimes misunderstood.

We took a 700 men army bought goods and tried to go to other city to sell it for 24 gold. We got attacked by Nords.
And then Victory. i went into Haen, but it had suddenly drooped all most 700 SD without traders there. Hmmmmm weird
i sold some stuff to and used up there SD in that fief. Then i suddenly update thir, and it went from 1300 to 700 then to 500 then to 300 and then 0 at the end.

So Nords really eight er buy up all the goods for 20 gold each or they buy sell in same fief getting a -10 gold a pice.
Eight er way i think that form of warfare is a bit dirty.  We at least was honest and didn't send 100 men false army and sell buy in same fief.

Told the fief owners yesterday evening to BUY (not sell)all the S&D up incase of a defeat. Didnt sell any of it yet, not gonna make much profit on the S&D in Haen thou :/
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 04, 2012, 05:59:27 pm
Told the fief owners yesterday evening to BUY (not sell)all the S&D up incase of a defeat. Didnt sell any of it yet, not gonna make much profit on the S&D in Haen thou :/
So you think that a enemy army buying low price and earning a lot of gold there is abusing.
But buying at high price fiefs to stop a enemy to sell his goods there is just wrong.
You will then loose gold, with my calculations over 30k used so about 10 to 15k lost. And this tactic is okey ?

i don't get it really. but thank you for helping me destroying your own economy.
 
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 04, 2012, 06:10:44 pm
I'm pretty much nice guy  :lol:

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Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 04, 2012, 06:47:02 pm
So you think that a enemy army buying low price and earning a lot of gold there is abusing.
But buying at high price fiefs to stop a enemy to sell his goods there is just wrong.
You will then loose gold, with my calculations over 30k used so about 10 to 15k lost. And this tactic is okey ?

i don't get it really. but thank you for helping me destroying your own economy.

Hmm? no your confused.... im going to use those goods on trade convoys, im not gonna sell them in there point of origin, that would be stupid I agree, its simply something we have allowed capital for in each fief too counter S&D terrorism. Sorry Ginger.

Edit: So if i sell the 24 gold goods for 300% trade bonus at 20 price, im still making money its just less. Total gold income per item is 60 Gold, so buying for 24 instead of 6 costs me a bit of profit, but means at least I can use the S&D in each fief instead of loosing it totally.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 04, 2012, 08:40:30 pm
Hmm? no your confused.... im going to use those goods on trade convoys, im not gonna sell them in there point of origin, that would be stupid I agree, its simply something we have allowed capital for in each fief too counter S&D terrorism. Sorry Ginger.

Edit: So if i sell the 24 gold goods for 300% trade bonus at 20 price, im still making money its just less. Total gold income per item is 60 Gold, so buying for 24 instead of 6 costs me a bit of profit, but means at least I can use the S&D in each fief instead of loosing it totally.
Yeah sounds like your going to earn allot of gold with your trading. because buying for 20 gold is a really good thing :P
and about what 2000 x 20 there going to be transported a long way into grey lands for you to have profit, and get rid of some grey SD :D

If your in future do this then i just salute you and say good luck with it.

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 08, 2012, 06:25:29 pm
Seems the Nords got a headache about our Army up North, army and army well a trader then.
So they came with all the STR to try and get her, sadly they where outplayed and tomorrow the battles will show if we played it right or not.

So to early battles tomorrow guys:

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=582 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=582)

Help the SoA here think it will be a good fight-

And

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=574 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=574)
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 09, 2012, 06:20:56 am
Help the SoA here think it will be a good fight-

And

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=574 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=574)

Was promised this village free of conflicted since i arranged for a new eastern village :-). Lets see.
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Post by: Blueberry Muffin on October 09, 2012, 10:28:03 am
Yes you would have got it free of conflict, but then you delcared war on us, and attacked an SoA trade caravan, whom you were still in agreement with.
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Post by: Noctivagant on October 09, 2012, 11:00:59 am
Was promised this village free of conflicted since i arranged for a new eastern village :-). Lets see.

Kingdom of the Nord
9 survivors
312 of 321 killed
commanded by
Nord_Jacko
Sovereignty of Aegis
218 survivors
232 of 450 killed
defending
Aldelen


Well dude you need all the help you can get
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Crob28 on October 09, 2012, 11:37:30 am
Was promised this village free of conflicted since i arranged for a new eastern village :-). Lets see.

Lol yea you offered to trade it for sumbuja, and while micah was on the way to make the trade you declared war and attacked.  Furthermore we then had to secure sumbuja by our own means (we got it from torben).  I think its fair to say all deals are off there  :wink:

That said you are more than welcome to make another attempt to come and get it, looks like it was a good fight, very sorry that I couldnt make it.

Ty to all who fought for us  :D
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Nessaj on October 09, 2012, 12:30:57 pm
Regarding Aldelen/SoA/Nords.

Facts:
We are fine with the defences though, we expected it (hence the -3 gear crap). Battles = XP. Just don't block primetime attacks and there won't be any sour smiles from us :wink:

The only thing anyone can put their finger on regarding Nords is the response to SoA signing against and obviously people will disagree. Everyone will always think they're in the right, that one specific incident where they believe they were wronged is enough to justify outrageous responses. As someone else wrote in another thread, surely plenty feel wronged and now they're on a holy mission with god given purpose behind. Hopefully that fact should remind people of simple human history.

We see our roster support as a fair response given we did announce it prior to the attack, and its a response we have only used ONCE ever in our clan's life, everyone else knows that we else have no issues with people signing against us, even friends, but as written above, given the nature of of abuse, yes we took offence, tit for tat. All fair in our opinion.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Crob28 on October 09, 2012, 12:57:01 pm
With regards to all that, first off I have no issues with the nords attacking adelen, it was expected since the outbreak of war, hence the fact that the defences there have been built up.  As you have said, the tit for tat stuff leads to both sides feeling justified in their actions whilst getting annoyed at the conduct of the other.  So its not worth it, at the end of the day, regardless of how we got here, we're at war so lets enjoy it :P

However I will reiterate that SoA took possession of Sumbuja by its own means, the village fell to Torben (we had no influence on that) and it was no longer for the Nords to offer to give away, so on those grounds it is reasonable to say the "deal" was off.  Also, the deal was proposed in peacetime, shortly afterwards war was declared and, as said by Gurni in the "annexation" thread (I dont know how to cross-topic quote  :oops:)

"Anyway, Cooties decided that SoA in our territory should be attacked on site, even though we mentioned the fact that they were promised to move through our land peacefully. That's what you get from a bad siege, a mad dictator wielding his whip mercilessly. :P"

So again, reasonable to assume any friendly deals are off at this time yes?  :P

Also, "claiming" a fief does not make it yours and whilst I will grant that we would have been hard pressed into to hold them I take a slight personal exception to the air of superiority that surrounds the way you talk of such things, lets keep it respectful, we are all just playing a game here after all  :D

Finally, if it was a friendly takeover then why'd you march straight up and besiege the place, rather than signalling your intentions/desires to us beforehand?  :P

Good luck in you future attacks  :)

EDIT : Also, I appear to have caused some confusion... The "alleged Nord/SoA caravan" you refer to was Micahs party, that was travelling through Nord lands to carry out the "trade" of the villages of Adelen and Sumbuja, not a goods trade.  My bad for not being clear on that point.  The reason I complained about that in the first place is that Micahs party would have been well clear of Nord lands if not for that proposal making him change his route and head deeper in.

The "bandits" who have one crpg Nord member.... to me at least, them attacking creates the image of Nords "releasing the hounds" for lack of a better phrase, sending others to do the work for them, and with that in mind, I've taken it to be basically a direct Nord attack, again different viewpoints across the battlefield I guess.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 09, 2012, 01:01:24 pm
Let me add few facts that you are skipping over there
Regarding Aldelen/SoA/Nords.

Facts:
  • SoA was within Nord claims. Nord claims weren't annoucend until Ismirala sitaution, Mercs tried to help you about that as much as possible by speaking to our allies
  • Nords could have wiped SoA easily in the beginning with little effort. Nords have played safe, didn't attack anyone because it was easier to give a false impression and take stuff for free
    • Nords let SoA keep Aldelen. with what promise?
    • De Bitre takes two of SoA's former fiefs as part of the agreement. again with what promise?
    • Nords let SoA trade. ah right, giving two fiefs for trade agreement
    • Nords organize a fief swap, Aldelen for Sumbuja. Hence SoA got a free fief instead of nothing. Plus nothing in Sumbuja had been used. SoA spammed the PP in at least 1 fief (two afaik) with lowering and raising the same feature to waste all points. as Nords sent Ribes Krigere to Merc fiefs with the same goal
    • Nords attack Ismirala Castle at 18:00 GMT+2, attack is pushed to 03:00 GMT+2. Due to the nature of the night time abuse Nords clearly state that anyone signing against will be considered enemies (we'd never do it otherwise). Nords started an unprovoked attack on SOA allies, don't be so self righteous
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      And calling STR and Greys to help you when you can't handle Mercs alone is righteous? If you give false promises then attack someone unprovoked, expect the worse from your enemies. If you announce your claims 10 minutes before the attack to justify your act, I think you have to expect your enemy to mess with your mind a bit
    • SoA signs for Merc/Templar 3AM defence. After you broke all of your false promises yes it did happen
    • Nords organize nothing in terms of Sumbuja defence or otherwise. Andswaru even went to SoA's TS to tell them who to contact if there were any defences or issues with taking Sambuja. SoA never said anything. Because all of our Allies know your diplomacy, give false promises so there is nothing to talk anymore.
    • Bandits (1 in the clan is a Nord outside Strat) attack SoA travellers in Nord lands. Nords support with roster (you sign against us we sign against you, fair enough. Obviously we had more than 3 sign-ups given it was regular hours and not 3am in the night.) Get all the help you can get, SOA now has the full support of eastern block, you can get help and they cannot? ask more troops and funds from STR
    • Nords offer to reimburse alleged SoA/Nord trade caravan for the full amount of its worth. Nords can't be trusted, period
    • SoA defends Aldelen against friendly takeover.Friendly? There was nothing friendly about Nords since the start, we were friendly you chose to trick us

    We are fine with the defences though, we expected it (hence the -3 gear crap). Battles = XP. Just don't block primetime attacks and there won't be any sour smiles from us :wink:
    We shall not play by your rules, this time is over now, we had a very open and rather friendly diplomacy to you, you chose the UIF way so be it, just keep attacking us with the stuff you borrowed from STR

    The only thing anyone can put their finger on regarding Nords is the response to SoA signing against and obviously people will disagree. Everyone will always think they're in the right, that one specific incident where they believe they were wronged is enough to justify outrageous responses. As someone else wrote in another thread, surely plenty feel wronged and now they're on a holy mission with god given purpose behind. Hopefully that fact should remind people of simple human history.
    Exactly

    We see our roster support as a fair response given we did announce it prior to the attack, and its a response we have only used ONCE ever in our clan's life, everyone else knows that we else have no issues with people signing against us, even friends, but as written above, given the nature of of abuse, yes we took offence, tit for tat. All fair in our opinion.
    Likewise. We shall support the people who we consider as people whom keept their promises instead of shady diplomacy
Could you also please write about how you took fiefs for free and broke every promise you gave by saying

We haven't agree to it we said we will discuss it within the clan

Also Ismirala was offered to Nords, you guys chose something silly like "I can give you 90 days of NAP for this castle"

I believe your arrogance was damaged when you attacked us and saw what happened, also your raid have failed and we could reinforce our army to catch the running army of Andswaru (which you had reinforcements from other clans) I promise you could never see them on Nord lands again. Just our naked army of horsemen did enough damage to your pride I believe. So you can say anything you want, but please leave your arrogance behind when you are doing it.

Cheers.[/list]
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Haboe on October 09, 2012, 01:04:33 pm
We seem be to at war. Lets kill each other and get it over with. The survivors will decide how it goes into the books anyway.

17:00 today, i think both well equipped. This has epic battle written all over it again.

Have fun all.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Jacko on October 09, 2012, 01:09:57 pm
All diplomacy aside, I should have took more notice when attacking, early morning battles are horrible (it wasn't a cheese attempt, just a misstake on my part). I also noticed the attacker spawn was faulty, will hopefully be fixed before the next attack. Don't forget to report map issues!
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 09, 2012, 01:12:43 pm
Let me add few facts that you are skipping over there
Could you also please write about how you took fiefs for free and broke every promise you gave by saying

We haven't agree to it we said we will discuss it within the clan
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Well you have said it yourself, we NEVER gave any promises mearly said we would Discuss it in the clan.

But too the point at hand, Jacko mearly wandered over too the village too take it as per the Agreement with the SoA. In answer too all the misinformation about the agreed trade here is the reasoning and the PM behind it.

1)The deal was made after the war with Mercs started.
2)The Fief trade was agreed with Micah, if he had any problems regarding the trade he should of contacted me, as far as we were aware the trade was going ahead smoothly.
3) The agreement was as soon as SoA have the ex-grey fief we are allowed too take the village without a fight.
4)We Nords never personally attacked a single SoA caravan as you can see when you look at battle history, all we did was engage in roster sign up.

now the proof (please take note of the date the PM exchange happened):
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Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Crob28 on October 09, 2012, 01:14:49 pm
All diplomacy aside, I should have took more notice when attacking, early morning battles are horrible (it wasn't a cheese attempt, just a misstake on my part). I also noticed the attacker spawn was faulty, will hopefully be fixed before the next attack. Don't forget to report map issues!

Yea I thought the early morning time was bad for both sides tbh, hopefully the next one will be at a better time so full rosters can be involved, with all this fuss Aldelen deserves a memorable fight to make it worth it :P
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 09, 2012, 01:18:28 pm
    Well you have said it yourself, we NEVER gave any promises mearly said we would Discuss it in the clan.

    But too the point at hand, Jacko mearly wandered over too the village too take it as per the Agreement with the SoA. In answer too all the misinformation about the agreed trade here is the reasoning and the PM behind it.

    1)The deal was made after the war with Mercs started.
    2)The Fief trade was agreed with Micah, if he had any problems regarding the trade he should of contacted me, as far as we were aware the trade was going ahead smoothly.
    3) The agreement was as soon as SoA have the ex-grey fief we are allowed too take the village without a fight.
    4)We Nords never personally attacked a single SoA caravan as you can see when you look at battle history, all we did was engage in roster sign up.

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As Tyr said earlier you did agree to many things we have offered and you came with a rather vague excuse of "relations with mercs did not improve" then it was obvious to us that you were playing a double game. Otherwise you'd never offer a 90 days of NAP. Which I believe you were going to find another vague excuse to break it like, Mercs in defender roster etc. What you do with Micah is your own business and my part with him to advise any of my allies to be careful with Nords.[/list]
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 09, 2012, 01:24:50 pm
Im not sure if Tyr is not wanting too look stupid infront of his clanmates for having made a bad leadership choice, or your just trying too troll me, but the facts are simply we only ever said too any offer, we would discuss this internally and come back with an answer, whatever impression Tyr took from those meetings and passed onto his fellow clan members is your own internal buisness. Last time im gonna say this, since im getting a sore throat from repeating myself.

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on October 09, 2012, 01:26:45 pm
Im not sure if Tyr is not wanting too look stupid infront of his clanmates for having made a bad leadership choice, or your just trying too troll me, but the facts are simply we only ever said too any offer, we would discuss this internally and come back with an answer, whatever impression Tyr took from those meetings and passed onto his fellow clan members is your own internal buisness. Last time im gonna say this, since im getting a sore throat from repeating myself.

It's ok, you don't have to read everything on the screen out loud.  :lol:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 09, 2012, 01:29:21 pm
but i do, otherwise im forced to repeat what i find so funny to the wife  :P
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: DaveUKR on October 09, 2012, 01:48:44 pm
Im not sure if Tyr is not wanting too look stupid infront of his clanmates for having made a bad leadership choice, or your just trying too troll me, but the facts are simply we only ever said too any offer, we would discuss this internally and come back with an answer, whatever impression Tyr took from those meetings and passed onto his fellow clan members is your own internal buisness. Last time im gonna say this, since im getting a sore throat from repeating myself.

You're so cheap at excuses that you probably used to say that your dog ate your homework back to school times. Do you really think that there are any stupid people left who believe in your excuses? We both are retarded persons and we should never step up to leaders' positions. The only 1 point of IQ which makes me a little bit smarter than you is that I admit this fact. I think that you did as much damage to Nords' reputation as nobody could (besides GTX or Cicero maybe).

Good luck with your war, the most dependant faction of UIF.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Nessaj on October 09, 2012, 01:55:15 pm
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We are fine with the defences though, we expected it (hence the -3 gear crap).

We're not the ones arguing, we just respond. The facts are rarely cited by those in control, hence my post. When people question "why we are where we are" - obviously the facts should be put on the table, so you shouldn't belittle that. I find it a funny that all of the sudden it doesn't matter how we got here when it was so important for you all in the beginning, mmhmm :wink:

You do though cite Gurnisson, whom you should understand is not an officer, nor have access to the internal debates om Strategus matters. I am also certain his line is sarcastic, so quoting him will do you no favours :wink: there is no dictatorship in Nords, we all talk, post and vote on issues as mature adults, and in spirit of how we believe Strategus should be played.

We are all for enjoying the War game, as we've reiterated plenty of times so far. We're against diminishing the game by abusing features to block prime time.

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 Here's for the battles and the War. Good game to SoA, no hard feelings from our end.


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Haha Nocti, you're a hilarious fellow. Hurt our pride? Sorry but we don't fight, live and breathe Strategus. We play it for what it is - a game. It isn't life. Losing or getting wiped is of no importance to us, we've been wiped before, and life went on.
All we care about is not being lame or abusing.

Regarding the horse battle, most of us thought it was hilarious, some of the horses (destriers) had +40 charge damage -- due to some bug I presume, given it is higher than +3 horses in normal C-RPG -- obviously they'd do a ton of damage on low-end footwear.

I applaud that battle, not detest it. There have been plenty of successful armies that were fully naked.

We also btw didn't get any reinforcements in terms of troops or gear from any other factions here. The only outside help we've had so far was Hetman helping to chase one of your many suspect characters (which had an army) inside our lands.

Maybe next round you'll communicate with your allies and friends more, that'll make it easier for you to build some new friendships. We've been hit since the beginning by a multitude of your allies and friends, whom been stealing S&D/goods from us. Kapikulu, Wolves, Deserters, other randoms, ALL of them fled through our Eastern Border, past Ismirala Castle.

We want that Castle to control our border against S&D terrorism.

Nothing else can end this conflict.

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Also Ismirala was offered to Nords, you guys chose something silly like "I can give you 90 days of NAP for this castle"

We were offered the castle only in return for joining Alliance 2 (or that we declared war on Alliance 1) and obviously no way we would put ourselves under an Alliance or cause for simply a castle.

NAPs that include telling members to not sign for specific battles are highly valuable IMO. Battles is what the mod is about and there's nothing worse than not having any battles to sign for. Clans need enemies.

Mercs made clear, many times, that you wanted Ismirala Castle, and that you never wanted to give it up due to bridge control I believe it was.

So we went for it, and yes you "bravely" had CaNJohN join Templars remotely via the faction join feature to try and stop us, and when we waited with attacking for 1 hour -- I waited inside the Castle for a full hour with the army -- in order to allow people to talk with each other on VOIP, you then used that hour to set your night time to block prime time attacks and force the battle to 03AM.
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Post by: Crob28 on October 09, 2012, 02:16:53 pm
I find it a funny that all of the sudden it doesn't matter how we got here when it was so important for you all in the beginning, mmhmm :wink:


I still stand by the things I said before, I have just decided that I don't want to get as mad about it as I did previously, partially because it is a game after all and partially because I realise the futility of trying to argue my point when others are as loyal to their standpoints as I am to mine.

The Gurni quote is not a piece of evidence or an attempt to catch you out, it does however provide a good example of our perception of the attitudes of the Nords towards us after the Ismirala siege.

I'm guessing Andawaru's party is waiting outside Aldelen for a time when attacking will provide a better chance for a prime time battle with full rosters.

As current lord of Aldelen, my night time hours are 01:00-09:00 GMT, you may not be able to see as I am in the village atm, but those times will not change, bear that in mind when you attack and lets have a good fight.
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Post by: Tyr_ on October 09, 2012, 02:30:24 pm
Regarding Aldelen/SoA/Nords.

Facts:
  • SoA was within Nord claims.
  • Nords could have wiped SoA easily in the beginning with little effort.
  • Nords let SoA keep Aldelen.
  • De Bitre takes two of SoA's former fiefs as part of the agreement.
  • Nords let SoA trade.
  • Nords organize a fief swap, Aldelen for Sumbuja. Hence SoA got a free fief instead of nothing. Plus nothing in Sumbuja had been used. SoA spammed the PP in at least 1 fief (two afaik) with lowering and raising the same feature to waste all points.
  • Nords attack Ismirala Castle at 18:00 GMT+2, attack is pushed to 03:00 GMT+2. Due to the nature of the night time abuse Nords clearly state that anyone signing against will be considered enemies (we'd never do it otherwise).
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  • SoA signs for Merc/Templar 3AM defence.
  • Nords organize nothing in terms of Sumbuja defence or otherwise. Andswaru even went to SoA's TS to tell them who to contact if there were any defences or issues with taking Sambuja. SoA never said anything.
  • Bandits (1 in the clan is a Nord outside Strat) attack SoA travellers in Nord lands. Nords support with roster (you sign against us we sign against you, fair enough. Obviously we had more than 3 sign-ups given it was regular hours and not 3am in the night.)
  • Nords offer to reimburse alleged SoA/Nord trade caravan for the full amount of its worth.
  • SoA defends Aldelen against friendly takeover.

Some other facts:
1. SoA owned the current DenBitre Castle, Mercenaries owned Aldelen. After talking 2hours to Andswaru he was fine with allowing SoA to settle in Aldelen and Chalbek castle as long as they don't interfer with you trade routes.
2. After you finally found an excuse to start a hostile relation towards Mercenaries - Kapi,Wolves,Deserters messing with you S&D, but NO Mercenary doing it - I got told that SoA should move out of all fiefs in the North except Aldelen since you did not claim this. I told you in a kind way that you will not get anything for free and you need to offer sth to compensate for the loss of fiefs that SoA would have. Afterwards I went away for 2 days and when i came back you took all fiefs from SoA - except Aldelen - without giving anything in return and you managed to convince SoA not to defend their fiefs.
3. After you got what you want you made some more excuses and quit all diplomatic relations
4. Since you now controlled all the fiefs that weren't in your hand in the first place you used the army that you actually would have needed to conquer Jelbegi Castle and Chalbek Castle to move to the east. We actually thought you would attack Deserters or Wolves, since we got informed that you want to use that army to attack someone that sabotaged your trading.
5. Cooties, you told me personally that you have no interest/claims in Ismirala Castle and Village, so we did not see a reason to inform you about ANY deals we make about it.
6. After you realised that the castle was no longer under our control Andswaru  threatened Alpha several times with the very brave sentence "give me what i want or I'll join UIF!". So far to Nords being independent...

Since we do not want Alpha to pay for your rly spineless policy we decided to give him another castle, so he does not need to  waste any materials on Ismirala Castle. And you are crying because we are so evil to change our nighttime? Well, since you roster is full of eastern european players - the later the battle takes part the better for us! Actually we also need to reinforce the castle since I made the mistake to thrust you because i thought you would have a "better" mindset than most of the other clans that backstabbed us so far...

Si vis pacem, para bellum - If you want peace, prepare for war, Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus

You proved that you are not thrustworthy at all, congratulations, you now officialy are the Kinngrimm of Strat. 4 - No offense Kinngrimm, at least you stand up for the actions you do while Nords deny everything!

Conclusion: You did not change at all since the last strat, still UIF minions, receiving heavy support from them to attack us... You have more players than we have and you cannot fight this war against us on you own? very high risks you take there...
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Post by: Noctivagant on October 09, 2012, 02:32:59 pm
We were offered the castle only in return for joining Alliance 2 (or that we declared war on Alliance 1) and obviously no way we would put ourselves under an Alliance or cause for simply a castle.

You are wrong there, we made it very clear "Stay neutral thats all", we also did not limit your trades. What we wanted was permanent NAP between us and you that was all. I think we made it very clear. We do not boss people around like UIF. Don't give me that bravely crap seriously. You started to arm your army and move it slowly in the forest while you photoshop that fancy battle announcement and fiefs behind us.
As I said before, if you were open about it there wouldn't be any problems, because of that ugly move we return the favor with the same manners.

Edit :

Tobe more specific thats how I see it.

Nords kept Mercs hanging with loose diplomacy. When Nords have reached the desired goal : taking fiefs away without any problems aka. when Nords did not need Mercs anymore. You've stopped all the diplomacy and chose to attack us.

I assure you without our interference you couldn't get a single fief there for free
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Post by: Thovex on October 09, 2012, 02:35:57 pm
You proved that you are not thrustworthy at all, congratulations, you now officialy are the Kinngrimm of Strat. 4 - No offense Kinngrimm, at least you stand up for the actions you do while Nords deny everything!

"No offense Kinngrimm" But I'm just here to offend you - Merc_Tyr.

I lol'd.
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Post by: Andswaru on October 09, 2012, 02:42:16 pm
6. After you realised that the castle was no longer under our control Andswaru  threatened Alpha several times with the very brave sentence "give me what i want or I'll join UIF!". So far to Nords being independent...

Not gonna argue about the rest, since thats your viewpoint, but this quote was only said this after I saw the Nighttime abuse, we need allies to fill our roster, we wanted to try and it fill entirely or as close as possible with Nords, nighttime abuse kinda ruined any chance there was of this, so you actually forced us to appeal to the largest opposite block (UIF) for roster assitance, this then removed any possible chance of this remaining a local conflict since we had to call upon people who were not friendly towards your block to assist us in filling the roster at this terrible hour.
We would not of joined the UIF block if you had not abused the Nighttime feature which is designed to stop battles happening at nighttime, not evening time, thats the top and bottom of it.

Peace.
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Post by: Haboe on October 09, 2012, 02:48:25 pm
Nords make plans and claims. Then they make compromises with other clans, but they know they will get what they planned despite those compromises, simply by finding a lame excuse to break it.
Some clans gave in to those compromises to get f'ed in the A later when its the nords turn to fulfill their part of the deal(SoA/ adelens promised peace good example) some stand and fight (Mercs).
That is my point of view atm, ofc nords will disagree as they should. Both sides believe they are right, and a motivation for a good war is born.


Now we are at war, so none of those previous deals are still of any value. Both sides will try to take what they claim, and many good battles will be the tool for that.

Don't care who fucked up, this argument brings nothing but damage to both clans credibility

Not 100% sure why i post this, cause both sides seem to bee too stubborn to stop anyway  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Casimir on October 09, 2012, 02:51:49 pm
Not gonna argue about the rest, since thats your viewpoint, but this quote was only said this after I saw the Nighttime abuse, we need allies to fill our roster, we wanted to try and it fill entirely or as close as possible with Nords, nighttime abuse kinda ruined any chance there was of this, so you actually forced us to appeal to the largest opposite block (UIF) for roster assitance, this then removed any possible chance of this remaining a local conflict since we had to call upon people who were not friendly towards your block to assist us in filling the roster at this terrible hour.
We would not of joined the UIF block if you had not abused the Nighttime feature which is designed to stop battles happening at nighttime, not evening time, thats the top and bottom of it.

Peace.

Actually you said if we were to break our NAP with you, (which we said would be the case if you attacked the castle that was supposed to be transferred into our possession) that you would be forced to 'declare yourself with the UIF'.  This was clearly a threat, and occurred during the middle of the talks before we made you several offers in exchange for our control of the castle.  I agree entirely that the use of the Night time feature in such a way was a terrible move and as such I have kept myself uninvolved in this war. However I think it is fair to point out that you are either recalling events incorrectly, or intentionally distorting the truth.

I was there and that is what was said.
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Post by: Herkkutatti666 on October 09, 2012, 03:18:51 pm
(just posting here to follow this thread easier)  :wink:
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Post by: Keshian on October 09, 2012, 03:29:11 pm
Not gonna argue about the rest, since thats your viewpoint, but this quote was only said this after I saw the Nighttime abuse, we need allies to fill our roster, we wanted to try and it fill entirely or as close as possible with Nords, nighttime abuse kinda ruined any chance there was of this, so you actually forced us to appeal to the largest opposite block (UIF) for roster assitance, this then removed any possible chance of this remaining a local conflict since we had to call upon people who were not friendly towards your block to assist us in filling the roster at this terrible hour.
We would not of joined the UIF block if you had not abused the Nighttime feature which is designed to stop battles happening at nighttime, not evening time, thats the top and bottom of it.

Peace.

So you become part of the UIF (again) in strat 4.0, because of 1 (emphasize 1) nighttime battle.  Certainly took next to nothing to do so.  Wonder what you will do if you have 1 early daytime battle, ally with all of NA??

P.S. The answer is NO!
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Post by: Thovex on October 09, 2012, 03:31:49 pm
So you become part of the UIF (again) in strat 4.0, because of 1 (emphasize 1) nighttime battle.  Certainly took next to nothing to do so.  Wonder what you will do if you have 1 early daytime battle, ally with all of NA??

P.S. The answer is NO!

Take the first airplane back to NA drama please.  :twisted:
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Post by: Gnjus on October 09, 2012, 03:35:07 pm
All we care about is not being lame or abusing.

Not that i care about it but.....your choice of friends & allies combined with your expert diplomacy skills most certainly points in that direction.  :wink:



congratulations, you now officialy are the Kinngrimm of Strat. 4

Nords have all gone full agility "I-can't-perform-any-other-action-but-my-left-side-swing-while-I-dance-around-avoiding-combat-like-a-pro-with-my-zillions-of-atheltics-which-makes-me-go-backwards-much-faster-then-others-go-forward-and-my-virtually-impenetrable-shield (unless-i-stumble-upon-a-mauler-in-which-case-i-get-slammed-like-a-pancake-and-then-i-rage-about-how-crushthrough-is-OP-and-unfair)" spineless runners ? That's some news indeed.  :?
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Post by: Andswaru on October 09, 2012, 03:44:39 pm
Actually you said if we were to break our NAP with you, (which we said would be the case if you attacked the castle that was supposed to be transferred into our possession) that you would be forced to 'declare yourself with the UIF'.  This was clearly a threat, and occurred during the middle of the talks before we made you several offers in exchange for our control of the castle.  I agree entirely that the use of the Night time feature in such a way was a terrible move and as such I have kept myself uninvolved in this war. However I think it is fair to point out that you are either recalling events incorrectly, or intentionally distorting the truth.

I was there and that is what was said.

Casimir Im prepared too bow to your greater recollection of events, I just know until now im only ever quoted as saying it after the nightime was seen.
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Post by: Haboe on October 09, 2012, 03:54:38 pm
Not gonna argue about the rest, since thats your viewpoint, but this quote was only said this after I saw the Nighttime abuse, we need allies to fill our roster, we wanted to try and it fill entirely or as close as possible with Nords, nighttime abuse kinda ruined any chance there was of this, so you actually forced us to appeal to the largest opposite block (UIF) for roster assitance, this then removed any possible chance of this remaining a local conflict since we had to call upon people who were not friendly towards your block to assist us in filling the roster at this terrible hour.
We would not of joined the UIF block if you had not abused the Nighttime feature which is designed to stop battles happening at nighttime, not evening time, thats the top and bottom of it.

Peace.

Just.. just... UIF is mostly russian/ turkish... If im not mistaken its a few hours later there... For them it would be like fucking 5-6 in the morning... why... why are you forced into uif then? Also, your previous relationships with them should have been enough to ask them for the roster once... Also you are not fooling anyone, you never intended to go to war without your allies...
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Post by: Noctivagant on October 09, 2012, 03:59:02 pm
Also you are not fooling anyone, you never intended to go to war without your allies...

Of course they didn't it was just a theatre. They can say anything they want, we exactly know who dumps how many goods in their fiefs without messing with their S&D or making a single dime, to simply improve the "economics" Fighting Mercs were always sponsored by our eastern friends. Would you refuse a sugar daddy like that?
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 09, 2012, 04:03:52 pm
Of course they didn't it was just a theatre. They can say anything they want, we exactly know who dumps how many goods in their fiefs without messing with their S&D or making a single dime, to simply improve the "economics" Fighting Mercs were always sponsored by our eastern friends. Would you refuse a sugar daddy like that?

Well i was finished posting for this week, but Nocti you just made me die laughing, so I gave you a +1.

Just.. just... UIF is mostly russian/ turkish... If im not mistaken its a few hours later there... For them it would be like fucking 5-6 in the morning... why... why are you forced into uif then? Also, your previous relationships with them should have been enough to ask them for the roster once... Also you are not fooling anyone, you never intended to go to war without your allies...

Haboe you called in your "friends" to save your bacon, so we found some friends too, simple as that.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 09, 2012, 04:14:56 pm
Well i was finished posting for this week, but Nocti you just made me die laughing, so I gave you a +1.

Hrus castle to be precise, lets all laugh together.
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Post by: Haboe on October 09, 2012, 05:27:50 pm
And once again we triumph.

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Post by: Noctivagant on October 09, 2012, 05:30:55 pm
The Union                             Mercenaries
0 survivors                           228 survivors
539 killed                             276 of 504 killed






despite the equipment difference. One advice, copying Merc tactics doesn't work on Mercenaries.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on October 09, 2012, 05:34:09 pm
some kind of hax was used

:With love, From "hacker"
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Crob28 on October 09, 2012, 05:38:10 pm
Congrats on the victory mercs, the stand at Aldelen is becoming glorious indeed
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Post by: Lt_Anders on October 09, 2012, 05:40:33 pm
Who had better gear? Union?

Also Russians are involved now?
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Haboe on October 09, 2012, 05:44:26 pm
Congrats on the victory mercs, the stand at Aldelen is becoming glorious indeed

Who is talking about a stand? With those 228 survivors well conquer the complete nord-territory.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 09, 2012, 05:44:49 pm
Who had better gear? Union?

Also Russians are involved now?

Union, of course they are involved but as you can see its not enough. I wouldn't be shocked if it turns into Strat 3 Dhirim gangbang situation.

Who is talking about a stand? With those 228 survivors well conquer the complete nord-territory.

You see that Union is retreating?

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Post by: DaveUKR on October 09, 2012, 05:45:31 pm
Who had better gear? Union?

Also Russians are involved now?

Union had almost 2 times heavier armours (Green Brigandine over mail, 15.7 weight) while we had Byrnies (8.6 weight). Horses were Rouncies on both sides. And yes, Russians are involved :D

Anyway, good fight, thank you for showing up!
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Post by: Cicero on October 09, 2012, 05:47:24 pm
we had only 100 heavy armours rest was -2 or someshit low armour =)
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Post by: Haboe on October 09, 2012, 05:47:52 pm

Also Russians are involved now?

First nords ran out of troops. Then greys reinforced them to kill kittiya. Then those died. Then union came there to reinforce them. Now they are all dead.
To complete the cycle i would love the empire army to report there in 3 days, then 3 days later DRZ army as well. Occitan can play along as well if they feel like it, but they are having hard times with peasants in the south so i would understand it if they don't show.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 09, 2012, 05:48:10 pm
I'm having fun just reading these battles. I would take part, but the lag is terrible and I refuse to merc on EU side anymore.(as those battles during week are at perfect times for me since I'm off on "weekend" Tues-Thurs)
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Post by: Blueberry Muffin on October 09, 2012, 06:06:18 pm

  • SoA was within Nord claims.



I would like to point out to you that we asked to settle SoA there, and we made an agreement whereupon SoA kept 2 fiefs there, Nords then reneged on this agreement, just as Nords said they had no claims on Ismirala area, before changing  your claims once again.

Massive wall of 'facts' is not necessarily mutually inclusive with the truth.

I think Tyr summed relations up well enough..
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I would also like to point out that I like the great majority of nords, including you cooties, but as an old saying goes, you judge a man by the company he keeps.
I would say, and I know a good chunk of your own members agree, that your company for strat is undesirable for the most part, and in some cases, repulsive. Now whilst this is only an online game, having been in this community for over 2 years, I can very clearly define who I like and who I dislike. Association with such people does cast aspersions on your own character, for all that this is not meant to be a serious matter.



Anyways, lets get on with this war.

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Post by: DaveUKR on October 09, 2012, 06:09:33 pm
we had only 100 heavy armours rest was -2 or someshit low armour =)

You had 150 and they were +1 (we've got 75 of them now :D) of them,  plus you had something like 40 +0 heraldic mail with tabard (12.2 weight) plus you had more than 400 of regular (not -2) padded jacks which are also good (4.4 weight).

And don't lie about -2, you didn't have any broken armour, and not even broken items (only a couple of peasant shit, we don't even know why you brought that since you didn't even use them)
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Post by: Herkkutatti666 on October 09, 2012, 06:16:37 pm
You had 150 and they were +1 (we've got 75 of them now :D) of them,  plus you had something like 40 +0 heraldic mail with tabard (12.2 weight) plus you had more than 400 of regular (not -2) padded jacks which are also good (4.4 weight).

And don't lie about -2, you didn't have any broken armour, and not even broken items (only a couple of peasant shit, we don't even know why you brought that since you didn't even use them)
Aaaa I see, you have rat in union.
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Post by: Pandemona on October 09, 2012, 06:17:53 pm
Aaaa I see, you have  rat in union.


We don't have rat in union :O
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Haboe on October 09, 2012, 06:21:46 pm
Aaaa I see, you have rat in union.

Winner gets 50% of all equipment used -2 loom levels.
Doesn't take a rat to look into your own equipmentlist and see what you got...
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on October 09, 2012, 06:23:27 pm
Winner gets 50% of all equipment used -2 loom levels.
Doesn't take a rat to look into your own equipmentlist and see what you got...
Even if everything is used? well, I haven't read Strat 4 FAQ so i can't be sure
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Haboe on October 09, 2012, 06:24:55 pm
Even if everything is used? well, I haven't read Strat 4 FAQ so i can't be sure

Yes even when everything is used. You gain 100% of what they have, and 50% of what they used -2 loom levels. (so if you get 75 -1 armors, you know they used 150 +1 armors)
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Post by: Harpag on October 09, 2012, 07:08:51 pm
Union, of course they are involved but as you can see its not enough. I wouldn't be shocked if it turns into Strat 3 Dhirim gangbang situation.

Now I'll show you how to interpret texts placed on this forum by Mercs.
example:

This is the official announce of Dhirim free trading area! The heart land of Calradia is known of being the cradle of freedom!

Great. They have totally no control over this area and everyone does what he wants. The real cradle of freedom sponsored by powerless Mercs  :D


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FAQ
What is this?
It's an area where everyone is allowed to trade: lonely peasants, bandits, small factions, friendly and not friendly alliances.

Well, of course, lack of control is out of control. Thank you for the information  :wink:

Why do you do this?
We want to help all the players and factions to survive in this cruel Strategus reality. We also want to help small and weak factions to gain some money and have some fun time in future.

I am moved to tears. Selfless Mercs want to help me. Thank you my Lord  :rolleyes:


What do you actually allow to do there?
1) Use our fiefs to trade in towncenters
2) Buy and sell as many goods as you want
3) Buy and sell equipment

That is exactly what everyone can do no man's land.  :)

What can I do in exact fiefs of yours?
Dhirim, Emirin, Reindi Castle and Ushkuru are places where you can sell goods.

Good to know that you have to buy cheap and sell expensive. This information is worth millions  :rolleyes:

Senuzgda Castle and Amere are places where you can buy goods. You can also buy some basic equipment in Senuzgda Castle, Arbalests in Emirin and Dhirim, Horses in Emirin!

Now I know where to buy horses in this area. Maybe someday I will use this information.

This what you are presented here, indicates that you consider us all as idiots.
This is for us valuable information talking a lot about our opponent.

Actually for me it's nothing new ...

Look at this:

You can put excessive troops in our fiefs that will help us to make the situation in the area even more stable!
:rolleyes: just fu...

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Post by: Keshian on October 09, 2012, 07:18:10 pm
Now I'll show you how to interpret texts placed on this forum by Mercs.
example:

This what you are presented here, indicates that you consider us all as idiots.
This is for us valuable information talking a lot about our opponent.

Actually for me it's nothing new ...

Look at this:
 :rolleyes: just fu...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LULZ ROFL LULZ
Somebody has a burr under their skin, guess he really hates losing with better gear and more troops!  LOL LOL LOL
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Haboe on October 09, 2012, 07:25:29 pm
This what you are presented here, indicates that you consider us all as idiots.

Some do consider you that way. Mercs know better ^^
There are some pretty good strat players in uif. Which reflects very very much on all the other account players in uif.
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Post by: Tyr_ on October 09, 2012, 07:49:31 pm

Haboe you called in your "friends" to save your bacon, so we found some friends too, simple as that.

We did not request/receive any military support from templars,fallen,hre and all the other clans we have friendly relations with to defend Ismirala Castle.

but this quote was only said this after I saw the Nighttime abuse, we need allies to fill our roster, we wanted to try and it fill entirely or as close as possible with Nords, nighttime abuse kinda ruined any chance there was of this, so you actually forced us to appeal to the largest opposite block (UIF) for roster assitance, this then removed any possible chance of this remaining a local conflict since we had to call upon people who were not friendly towards your block to assist us in filling the roster at this terrible hour.
We would not of joined the UIF block if you had not abused the Nighttime feature which is designed to stop battles happening at nighttime, not evening time, thats the top and bottom of it.


You forced us to change the night time. We told you several times that we do not want war in the north, we want to carry it in other lands since the last 2 Strats we needed to fight a war withing our own lands which crippled our economy (trade system still is retarded imo...)
We all know that you cannot fill a roster on your own. Neither Grey Order nor the Coalition managed to fill a roster by only taking their own players, and they are much bigger factions than Nords or Mercs are. So be honest, it was obvious for us that the only way for you to fill up your roster would be using many UIF players and since most of them are from east europe changing the nighttime made it a bad time for us, but even a worse one for you
And in addition to that we weren't prepared for bigger attacks. You basicly declared war on us ~10 minutes before you reached the castle, so to increase our reinforcement time and move our troops&equipment to the castle we needed the additional 8 Hours.


This what you are presented here, indicates that you consider us all as idiots.


I don't consider you an idiot. I read your posts, watch your actions and I know your behaviour. With that amount of informations I cannot simply "consider", I think the words "certain knowledge" or "for sure" fit better.

Always remember
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Aaaa I see, you have rat in union.

Well, I know that we there are people trying to take screenshots from our ts all the time, although i dont see the use of it since all the channels are invisible now and the important stuff only happens in locked channels anyway.
What we do is observation. We won the battle and therefore we got a percentage of all items that got used -2 loom levels, so we know what you used and how much you have had. And there is no point in denying that Union supports Nords with gold. We've seen several Union traders walking into nord fief and leaving them without any crates, but the S&D in the fief did not drop - strange, isnt it ?
Actually the S&D couldnt change at all since Nords bought all the trade goods out of the fief for 20 gold a piece to prevent Kittiya from buying or selling stuff  :D
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on October 09, 2012, 07:52:53 pm
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Harpag for the love of god, rather than use the place as a military base from which to attack, and killing everyone who enters the area, we allow a place of free trade in the centre of the map. We try regulate it best we can from banditing so that independent players can have some fun in strat. We do this because we have our own lands in the north that we can regulate as a faction should, and because with no neutral fiefs, independant players are basically through.  The two entities are under seperate commands, independant of each other, and this is your response? Seriously man, shut the hell up, Ive never read anything so inane.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cepeshi on October 09, 2012, 07:55:13 pm
This thread delivers.



Also i saw our clan mentioned several times, cool, we are getting famous.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 09, 2012, 08:14:04 pm
Look at this:
 :rolleyes: just fu...

"Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"
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Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cicero on October 09, 2012, 08:19:09 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LULZ ROFL LULZ
Somebody has a burr under their skin, guess he really hates losing with better gear and more troops!  LOL LOL LOL
yea i remember that loser guy from strategus version 2 oh snap i did something wrong here
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 09, 2012, 08:30:50 pm
That "loser" delivered some serious ass kicking with NA ping

QQ more you will cry after sunday also UIF , So strong omg omg

nop still ass kicking....

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massive ass kicking....
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cicero on October 09, 2012, 08:34:21 pm
Remember nocti last strategus it was DRZ's turn to wipe you and i let them to do it but now its my turn =)

It is so sweet to see  kesh and you love each other i can still remember your screams on teamspeak when u killed kesh or killed by kesh  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Remember UIF don't care about  forum propaganda
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 09, 2012, 08:37:19 pm
Remember nocti last strategus it was DRZ's turn to wipe you and i let them to do it but now its my turn =)

It is so sweet to see  kesh and you love each other i can still remember your screams on teamspeak when u killed kesh or killed by kesh  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Remember UIF don't care about  forum propaganda

stop living in history, you are saying its my turn for months now, we haven't seen anything yet except barking from the shadow of UIF.
For almost two weeks we are proving that you guys need to gang on us again, because 3vs1 is not even working.

Cheers and chop chop
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cicero on October 09, 2012, 08:45:21 pm
We don't care its so fuckin funny for me to see that

Kinngrimm :backstabbed all
Noctivagant : the guy who secret backstabber =)
Abay and his 23 accounts : Banned ( reported  by noctivagant )
Kesh: i m not even gonna comment

You guys are in 1 team and its so funny for me =)

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 09, 2012, 08:49:44 pm
We don't care its so fuckin funny for me to see that

Kinngrimm :backstabbed all
Noctivagant : the guy who secret backstabber =)
Abay and his 23 accounts : Banned ( reported  by noctivagant )
Kesh: i m not even gonna comment

You guys are in 1 team and its so funny for me =)

and you are the gold duplicator
Good job
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Tyr_ on October 09, 2012, 08:50:14 pm
I cant decide between this 2:

1. Cicero: The guy that wipes out a 1000 man army after nebun or hetman killed 999 tickets of it!

or

2. Cicero: The guy whose faction got 58.316.041 gold last strat, which is about ~40% of the total without cheating
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Knitler on October 09, 2012, 09:40:18 pm
We don't care its so fuckin funny for me to see that

Kinngrimm :backstabbed all
Noctivagant : the guy who secret backstabber =)
Abay and his 23 accounts : Banned ( reported  by noctivagant )
Kesh: i m not even gonna comment

You guys are in 1 team and its so funny for me =)

what about me turkish honey? ... hmmm turkish honey - yummy
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Keshian on October 09, 2012, 09:50:52 pm
I cant decide between this 2:

1. Cicero: The guy that wipes out a 1000 man army after nebun or hetman killed 999 tickets of it!

or

2. Cicero: The guy whose faction got 58.316.041 gold last strat, which is about ~40% of the total without cheating

Yeah, cicero is seriously the least intelligent guy in EU.  He walks into his own insults.  I just imagine him as some Turkish, greasy-looking garbarge collector, who looks to cRPG for his only source of pride in the world as drool runs down and drips on his morbidly obese body as he plays.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cicero on October 09, 2012, 09:53:37 pm
Haha as i said i don't care what you type or think =)

We don't play on forum =))

UIF will win.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Keshian on October 09, 2012, 09:54:56 pm
Haha as i said i don't care what you type or think =)

We don't play on forum =))

UIF will win.

UIF may win, but Cicero - you lost at birth.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cicero on October 09, 2012, 09:56:54 pm
ofcourse i ll take serious NA guy =)))
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Harafat on October 09, 2012, 10:24:26 pm
With all do respect, if you cant find what Harpag wrote funny, then you have no humour at all. -1-ing a rly funny post is a shame, even if it arouses your anger.
Altho im in the other carebear block, +1 Harpag.

Lighten up trolls.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Harpag on October 10, 2012, 01:20:51 am
Come on, let them feel better although for a short while... have mercy.
Mercs are giving away money (S&D) for free for everyone and stick to that version. You know, Money & Blood  :wink:

By the way, hush-hush, do not say such things in public, because they may have guessed that we are the same person and we will be banned for multiaccounting...
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Tyr_ on October 10, 2012, 02:20:50 am
Well Harpag, everyone that is either friendly or neutral is welcome in Dhirim, and looking at the S&D it works quite well, no area has less of it than Dhirim, looks like theres many innocent peasants that get driven into the only area which isnt a deadzone for non-members of either one of the two Alliances^^.

Btw, how did this thread go from Kittiyas Battle to the Mercenaries free trading area? we got anotherone for this. Also, why is cicero posting here? the only attempts to attack Kittiya were done by Nords, Greys and Union, haven't seen any islamist up in the north, seems to be too cold here.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Harpag on October 10, 2012, 12:13:37 pm
Stop this cheap scam. Everyone perfectly see that you have too much territory in relation to the number of members. You have no control over this area, and just because you created this "free trade area". Leave this teritory for small clans, or I'll do it instead of you  :twisted:

This topic strays from Kittiya to free trade area because of main theme of most of yours topics, - bullshit - which is their common and distinctive feature, so it's easy to mistake  :wink:

And when it comes to the Islamists, then tomorrow we'll send them a few shipments of warm sheepskin coats, so they still can surprise you  :)

BTW, stop discriminate Cicero because of his RP Jihad. The word "Jihad" means "Holy War," Nothing more. What's your problem with that he says that his war is holy for him? Particularly successful are comparisons to YMCA  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on October 10, 2012, 12:32:35 pm
Harpag just give Cicero suicide vest already and let him role play all he wants ^^
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 10, 2012, 03:03:26 pm
And when it comes to the Islamists, then tomorrow we'll send them a few shipments of warm sheepskin coats, so they still can surprise you  :)

You can say anything you want but seems to me that Mercs had some glories against multiple clans and seems like you guys have to join powers to stop that. Because you cannot face us alone yourselves.
When Coalition attacks somehwhere they do it with their own gear, same for us. We didn't even ask the help of Deserters which is our main ally. But with UIF system, one clan fills a castle and only grinds troops while other ones only grind gear.

Eastern front is nothing like UIF and will never be.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on October 10, 2012, 03:13:56 pm
I trust you, whatever you say.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 10, 2012, 06:57:34 pm
Next battle and its story,

Kittiya was heading to Gisim (for her life) After Nord attack, she traveled all night in the forest. 110 Greys have tried to catch her but failed, due extra weight they had for not battling. Kittiya sold all of the goods from the North and ran more. Greys showed up with 752 men army.

Run Kittiya run.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on October 10, 2012, 07:11:36 pm
Stop this cheap scam. Everyone perfectly see that you have too much territory in relation to the number of members. You have no control over this area, and just because you created this "free trade area". Leave this teritory for small clans, or I'll do it instead of you  :twisted:



Wrong. We actually have just as many members, if not more in the southern fiefs because not everyone wants to be a production drone in a castle, and we can manage the north easily as it is. I dont know if the idea of 'giving' doesnt exist in your mental dictionary, or what. It seems so hard for you to understand the concept of it.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on October 10, 2012, 07:17:50 pm
Next battle and its story,

Kittiya was heading to Gisim (for her life) After Nord attack, she traveled all night in the forest. 110 Greys have tried to catch her but failed, due extra weight they had for not battling. Kittiya sold all of the goods from the North and ran more. Greys showed up with 752 men army.

Run Kittiya run.
Don't forget to apply with your second account on greys side and grief.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 10, 2012, 08:07:53 pm
Don't forget to apply with your second account on greys side and grief.

Genzel is out of the ladder and he is getting banned if thats what you mean
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Harpag on October 10, 2012, 08:12:46 pm
Enjoy the moment and bark as loud as you can, because soon you will be only crying and whining just like in every previous strat that we are dishonest cheaters and exploiters.

Yes, Eastern front is nothing like UIF and will never be, and idea of giving doesn't fit to Mercs.

Can you explain why you fucked up your own economy? Practically right now you are cold corpses...

BTW, sending Kittiya to our area, it was murder. You knew very well that she can't come back alive from Greysland. Good job Ginger.

PS. Don't forget to call me an idiot, and give your clan mate "plus" that he was feeling supported, and of course "minus' for me  :wink:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 10, 2012, 08:17:29 pm
Enjoy the moment and bark as loud as you can, because soon you will be only crying and whining just like in every previous strat that we are dishonest cheaters and exploiters.

Yes, Eastern front is nothing like UIF and will never be, and idea of giving doesn't fit to Mercs.

Can you explain why you fucked up your own economy? Practically right now you are cold corpses...

BTW, sending Kittiya to our area, it was murder. You knew very well that she can't come back alive from Greysland. Good job Ginger.

PS. Don't forget to call me an idiot, and give your clan mate "plus" that he was feeling supported, and of course "minus' for me  :wink:

We dont give a fuck about dhirim area we didnt even plan to have it we didnt vote for it, we just got it and we are having fun with it. Why do you care about what we do with dhirim and who the hell are you to tell us what to do with it? I'm not freaking UIF, you can't tell me shit you better understand
You are getting used to your nickname aye? good for you
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: bagge on October 10, 2012, 08:18:03 pm
Yeah I had a chat with Nocti and I can confirm that Mercs didn't have anything to do with it. I seriously doubt Mercs would sink so low, and it's partwise our fault for accepting him to the battle (even tho one of our commanders had knowledge of what faction he was in) -_-

Quote
Noctivagant: [6:48:03 PM] Lizard_man: Here Noc
[6:48:11 PM] Lizard_man: kick Gerzel from the faction
[6:48:15 PM] Lizard_man: he's giving us a bad name

He recieved a ban for the bullshit and he's no longer in the Merc ladder/strategus.

No hard feelings yes
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 10, 2012, 09:51:47 pm
Genzel is out of the ladder and he is getting banned if thats what you mean

hes outta strat too? Or im still watching for the big yellow blob?
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Crob28 on October 10, 2012, 10:07:38 pm
To Andswaru

Ignavi coram morte quidem animam trahunt, audaces autem illam non saltem advertunt.

The cowards attack at 550 to 50 odds, the brave fight on to the death.

:P

*For those who wonder wth i'm on about, its his battle message for the next attack on a village after his raid*
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: DaveUKR on October 11, 2012, 12:06:35 am
Don't forget to apply with your second account on greys side and grief.

Genzel is my RL friend and he's not a second account of anyone. He has 400+ strategus ticks and he plays a lot on EU1 (plays shitty but still he plays). If you have any doubts - you can ask admins to check.

Also, check out accounts of your clan personally. I can give you names of alternative accounts in your own faction. Even your leader if you want. But I don't want to fall low and ask admins to ban his accounts.

If Genzel did anything wrong and got punished for that - it's his own fault, he gets what he deserves. He is not a Mercenary, he is just my friend.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cicero on October 11, 2012, 01:08:13 am
Genzel is my RL friend and he's not a second account of anyone. He has 400+ strategus ticks and he plays a lot on EU1 (plays shitty but still he plays). If you have any doubts - you can ask admins to check.

Also, check out accounts of your clan personally. I can give you names of alternative accounts in your own faction. Even your leader if you want. But I don't want to fall low and ask admins to ban his accounts.

If Genzel did anything wrong and got punished for that - it's his own fault, he gets what he deserves. He is not a Mercenary, he is just my friend.
obviusly i can say that daveUKR got a brother.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: DaveUKR on October 11, 2012, 01:11:38 am
obviusly i can say that daveUKR got a brother.

Obviously, you should realize that I'd never fall to Nebun's bullshit and you personally saw me and Genzel playing on one server a lot. So don't bother, you already have a reputation of the smartest person in crpg.

PS. I really do. But he never played cRPG.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Nebun on October 11, 2012, 02:58:14 am
Obviously, you should realize that I'd never fall to Nebun's bullshit and you personally saw me and Genzel playing on one server a lot. So don't bother, you already have a reputation of the smartest person in crpg.

PS. I really do. But he never played cRPG.

Really? Then who joined Union with 2nd account, not producing any start points, was caught by Ivan who worked out that his new guy and you have the same ID in different teamspeaks. He even came to talk to you and you didn't deny it.

MY Bullshit??? you are the biggest liar we know.
1. Tried to sneak into UNION on another key.
2. Recorded Ciceros conversation in turkish and given it to Nocti
3. Lied about vendetta that are not really our allies
4. Threatned our allies that we will betray them and stab them in the back (though the whole backstabbing always happened on our enemies side)
5. Mercs send you or maybe you use your own initiative to sweet talk to other clan leaders so they don't come and wipe you.
6. Acting nice when u need something and being total shit when you don't.
7. You betrayed RuConquista strat 2 and all their plans against us, while they helped you so much.
8. You provided all kind of info about clans you was friendly with just so you could be friendly with us.

I doubt anyone in Greys ts would ever like to talk to you again. Everyone got permission to ban you on sight.

Don't get me wrong, this spy shit and propaganda is not very bad. But you talking about someones 'bullshit' after this - just sounds stupid.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: DaveUKR on October 11, 2012, 07:25:49 am
Really? Then who joined Union with 2nd account, not producing any start points, was caught by Ivan who worked out that his new guy and you have the same ID in different teamspeaks. He even came to talk to you and you didn't deny it.

MY Bullshit??? you are the biggest liar we know.
1. Tried to sneak into UNION on another key.
2. Recorded Ciceros conversation in turkish and given it to Nocti
3. Lied about vendetta that are not really our allies
4. Threatned our allies that we will betray them and stab them in the back (though the whole backstabbing always happened on our enemies side)
5. Mercs send you or maybe you use your own initiative to sweet talk to other clan leaders so they don't come and wipe you.
6. Acting nice when u need something and being total shit when you don't.
7. You betrayed RuConquista strat 2 and all their plans against us, while they helped you so much.
8. You provided all kind of info about clans you was friendly with just so you could be friendly with us.

I doubt anyone in Greys ts would ever like to talk to you again. Everyone got permission to ban you on sight.

Don't get me wrong, this spy shit and propaganda is not very bad. But you talking about someones 'bullshit' after this - just sounds stupid.

Hahaha, Nebun keeps his lying shit because he couldn't make any excuse rather than "it's my brother, not my my second cd-key"

1. I got into Union ladder with my ALT (STR_Povelitel_ - my STF char in the same account as DaveUKR). I got asked to do that because the one who was named STR_Povelitel (without "_" on the end of the name) couldn't speak English Russian. And I had no access to that char and I've never logged in. It's not my problem that they couldn't see the difference in the name. Plus the whole spy thing was a big fooling joke. That character was invited by Union to join (Sargon invited him to join). Povelitel had a legend of a noob player, but after he got accepted he reached top10 in duel ladder in 15 minutes, he was also playing with my known armour and I also said to Ivan that I appear in my native city. That was so obvious that it was me that even Ivan came to our TS and said "Damn, it was so obvious". BTW, another piece of shit spread by you about same TS ID in different servers - Povelitel had different TS ID if you didn't know.

2. I've never ever recorded anyone in TS. Cicero was speaking turkish with his friend WHILE he was negotiating with me, I didn't like it (and nobody would, it's a common sense that you don't have to speak foreign language when there is someone who doesn't understand you) and it sounded suspicious. So I streamed it to Nocti and he told me that they were discussing how to WIPE me. So that was just a bluff and a bunch of bullshit again.

3. What? Who are Vendetta? And lied to whom?

4. Threatened whom? What you're saying is just shit since I don't talk to UIF to lie.

5. Hah, what a bullshit. The only one EVER appearance of mine in your TS speaking about this was when Cicero yelled "Allakhu ekber - we will wipe you" I asked you to WAIT with your attacks and let us kill BashiBazouks so we don't fight against the WHOLE UIF at once. And everyone realizes that you're saying crap, how come that we refused to join UIF and decided to fight and 1 day later came to you begging not to wipe us? Phi, cheap lies. If you don't understand Russian in Moldova - it's your own problems.

6. Hahaha, says Nebun. Don't even want to comment this.

7. Another bunch of lie spread by you. All the players (and there were a lot of players and clan leaders over there) can prove that you're saying crap. I wondered who was spreading this idiotic lie about us betraying RuConquista. Now I see. If you didn't know: We saved Union of being wiped because we refused to help FCC against them since we promised not to attack Union that Strat. And our promise is worth of something unlike yours. STR Leaders were spying in our TS in the other channel and there was a small scandal because of that, they also made a couple of screenshots. RuConquista got wiped because they were helping UIFs enemies. And we gave a fief to them. They were with us on our territory in the NEXT Strategus also. So do you think they would stick with us, use our TS, help us in Strat if we would betray them?

8. Another bullshit. How many times did I speak with you? Like 2 or 3? How come that I gave you so much info about all the clans and stuff? Mercs never asked you to be our allies. You can stop spreading shit.

The only person I was talking to from Grey Order was Hetman and we've never spoken about strat diplomacy or anything else.

PS. That post wasn't made by you. It was probably your brother, who made that post.

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Vovka on October 11, 2012, 08:01:13 am
more drama pls!  :P
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Oberyn on October 11, 2012, 08:04:03 am
I think the "betraying" Ruconquista has to do with with making admins notice the hardcore exploitation and cheating a few of their members were doing. In Nebun's world this is equivalent to "planning". Obviously ruining such beautiful "plans" falls under the definition of snitching for a DRZ member.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Vovka on October 11, 2012, 08:08:31 am
I think the "betraying" Ruconquista has to do with with making admins notice the hardcore exploitation and cheating a few of their members were doing. In Nebun's world this is equivalent to "planning". Obviously ruining such beautiful "plans" falls under the definition of snitching for a DRZ member.
:(
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: DaveUKR on October 11, 2012, 08:10:14 am
more drama pls!  :P

I believe that you'd make a bigger post if you could. English FTW :D I hope you can get what's written there and see how your apprentice is putting bullshit to these forums  :wink:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Nebun on October 11, 2012, 08:15:30 am
LOL :)) no point to continue, u just writing that everything i say is a lie. No real argument, no real proofs on any side.
Even though i was there when u sold ru conquista, u just came to our TS and told us they setting up alliance against Union in strat 2, and it was U, not some other merc.

all i said was correct, ppl who need to know this - do know it.

You trying to keep your profile very clear on forum, with so much shit behind the curtains.

Ok if all this lies, then why 90% of players in our teamspeak dislike you and the rest just don't care? And there is no such dislike for most other enemy clan leaders or diplomats, not even close.


Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Nebun on October 11, 2012, 08:16:44 am
Nebun talk about 1st strat and u about 2nd  :P fixed  :P

Nah it was in 2nd strat, when mercs fought FCC in the center of the map. And Ru Conquista wanted to go to war on pillagers side against Union.

PS: in 3rds strat nocti given ru conquista to admin justice, thats not what i was talking about
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: DaveUKR on October 11, 2012, 08:24:53 am
LOL :)) no point to continue, u just writing that everything i say is a lie. No real argument, no real proofs on any side.
Even though i was there when u sold ru conquista, u just came to our TS and told us they setting up alliance against Union in strat 2, and it was U, not some other merc.

all i said was correct, ppl who need to know this - do know it.

You trying to keep your profile very clear on forum, with so much shit behind the curtains.

Ok if all this lies, then why 90% of players in our teamspeak dislike you and the rest just don't care? And there is no such dislike for most other enemy clan leaders or diplomats, not even close.

Nebun, how could I tell you anything about that if it was OBVIOUS that RuConquista was against Union since leaders of both factions was calling each other names and signing up against each other in battles? And RuConquista was allied to Mercs and nothing else. You probably have a schizophrenia. Everything you said is obvious bullshit, just read it again and you'll see.

Just not to be empty-worded. Here's the screenshot (The quality is bad but you can see long RuConquista tags) of RC fighting against Union. There was also video uploaded by Tercon, but it got removed.

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90% of players in your teamspeak dislike me because they only hear the same bullshit about me as you wrote here. Communistic propaganda? Yes please. And there is no such dislike for other leaders/diplomats because of your language barrier and weak English skills and I am/was the only one who can speak Russian and talk about diplomacy at once in anti-UIF factions.

So please, carry on with your alternative cd-keys saying it's your brother/sister/mom/dad/granny. 90% of your faction know about your exploits, so we can judge about the whole faction, great job.
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Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cicero on October 11, 2012, 08:38:23 am
its so fuckin obvious that daveUKR got many brothers
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: DaveUKR on October 11, 2012, 08:43:26 am
its so fuckin obvious that daveUKR got many brothers

Cicero, you're so wise and such all-seeing person. I believe it was my multi-account who stole the gold from your castle so you've lost 1k of army without fight  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Nebun on October 11, 2012, 09:20:35 am
You given up ru conqusta far earlier then any battles with Pillagers :)) And Ru Conquista was our allies back then and union and greys etc. And yes they had problems but nobody made their move. Aggressor would have got punished, and you given up the agressor to us. But those battles happened far after that, so your screenshoot doesn't prove anything.

PS: btw its funny how u jumped in time, obviously when war begin everyone knew which side ru conquista is on, but in preparation stage you given up up. And as a result Ru Conquista got wiped.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Vovka on October 11, 2012, 09:25:48 am
To be honest 2 or 3clans came to us with Dima_Urban's plan so u not alone Dave  :P
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: DaveUKR on October 11, 2012, 09:31:59 am
It was not Dima Urban's idea. It was suggested by FCC, Dima got invited there and he said that he doesn't mind. That's it. I love how you guys make imaginatory things, believe in them and then tell them as truth. Your words make no sense.

You just needed an excuse to attack him. You worked just the same as Nords did this strat.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Vovka on October 11, 2012, 09:37:48 am
You just needed an excuse to attack him. You worked just the same as Nords did this strat.
  :lol:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Vovka on October 11, 2012, 09:40:07 am
I think u lie write and talk so much what u dont remember what you lied said yesterday  :P
kk iam done here  :twisted:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: DaveUKR on October 11, 2012, 10:12:15 am
I think u lie write and talk so much what u dont remember what you lied said yesterday  :P
kk iam done here  :twisted:

Druzhina accuses me in lying, multiaccounting and cheating. Now I've seen it all.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Vovka on October 11, 2012, 10:28:15 am
Druzhina accuses me in lying, multiaccounting and cheating. Now I've seen it all.
Druzhina dont give a fuck about u  :P
надеюсь правильно написал хпхпхпхпхп
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cepeshi on October 11, 2012, 11:09:41 am
I like how this went from: SAVE KITTYA, thru Nords vs. Merc, everyone having own versions of what happened, and now we have gotten into medieval teamspeak espionage and multiaccounts and cheats.


*POPCORN*

nah but seriously, keep it up, having a great time finding out what was actually happening last strats  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Harpag on October 11, 2012, 11:59:09 am
Can I use in English term "slippery persons"?

If yes, there is no second faction, which have so many slippery persons.
We have a lot enemies, but only with you we have personal problems. Everyone else are simply guys from opposing team.

The question is, who will be wiped first:

A) Mercs
B) Mercs
C) Mercs
D) Mercs

Answers to the quiz question, please send to the end of this month.
The prize draw will take place in mid-November  :)
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Vovka on October 11, 2012, 12:19:41 pm
Can I use in English term "slippery persons"?

If yes, there is no second faction, which have so many slippery persons.
We have a lot enemies, but only with you we have personal problems. Everyone else are simply guys from opposing team.

The question is, who will be wiped first:

A) Mercs
B) Mercs
C) Mercs
D) Mercs

Answers to the quiz question, please send to the end of this month.
The prize draw will take place in mid-November  :)
But why not Mercs?? So many territories and only like 2k garrison in ALL fiefs  :P Goods target even for randoms  :wink: I think UIF factions dont mind if some one take north teritories from them  :lol:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Tyr_ on October 11, 2012, 12:37:44 pm
There it comes again: The threat to wipe out a 50 man clan with the UIF's power!

Last round Legio, Greys, Drz and Union - and lets not forget cicero's moral support - needed a few weeks to wipe out a 20 man faction. We managed to grow a bit, so this time we can delay it even longer ;)
Maybe i would take your threats serious if you wouldnt post the same shit three times a day  :mrgreen:
So far I'm rly happy in the North, Mercs vs Nords is quite equal regarding the player base, although it was spoiling the fun up here to see that Union dumped trade goods with about ~300-400k value in nord lands and also Greys/Union helping them to hunt down poor Kittiya  :cry:
But well, the last battles we made some decent 2:1 and 3:1 K/D's, and even the one we had only ponys was a success in my eyes because cicero and all bashis GTXted the match, please buy him some armour only he is allowed to use so our cav can spot him easier   8-)

Btw, the first faction to get wiped was Occitan, nice of you to settle them in the most shitty area of the map, forests&mountains everywhere, i dont like the trading system, but down there it must be even more annoying :wink:
I wonder why they agreed to this shit anyway, by my experience they are the best NA players when it comes to skill, they could easily hold a quite decent area in NA on their own.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Nebun on October 11, 2012, 12:42:41 pm
occitans not wiped :) look they on the left of the map
and we didn't settle them on the desert, it was their choice
and don't worry about it, soon they will go back to their claimed area :) and you will go back to NA
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Vovka on October 11, 2012, 12:43:02 pm
Btw, the first faction to get wiped was Occitan, nice of you to settle them in the most shitty area of the map, forests&mountains everywhere, i dont like the trading system, but down there it must be even more annoying :wink:
I wonder why they agreed to this shit anyway, by my experience they are the best NA players when it comes to skill, they could easily hold a quite decent area in NA on their own.
oh u...  :P
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Tyr_ on October 11, 2012, 12:48:04 pm
According to what you say we didnt get wiped last strat since we resettled in NA. Occitan got wiped in the desert and resettled in the former merciless area  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Knitler on October 11, 2012, 12:58:11 pm
nolifers

occitans not wiped :) look they on the left of the map
and we didn't settle them on the desert, it was their choice
and don't worry about it, soon they will go back to their claimed area :) and you will go back to NA

so ... HRE and other clans dont got wiped in strat3 too then ... your logic is pretty funny :-) nothing against you but thats shit ^^
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Vovka on October 11, 2012, 01:14:56 pm
nolifers
so ... HRE and other clans dont got wiped in strat3 too then ... your logic is pretty funny :-) nothing against you but thats shit ^^
U ganged 2 heir fiefs from 5, i dont see wipe here  :P
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 11, 2012, 01:46:39 pm
Really? Then who joined Union with 2nd account, not producing any start points, was caught by Ivan who worked out that his new guy and you have the same ID in different teamspeaks. He even came to talk to you and you didn't deny it.

MY Bullshit??? you are the biggest liar we know.
1. Tried to sneak into UNION on another key.
2. Recorded Ciceros conversation in turkish and given it to Nocti
3. Lied about vendetta that are not really our allies
4. Threatned our allies that we will betray them and stab them in the back (though the whole backstabbing always happened on our enemies side)
5. Mercs send you or maybe you use your own initiative to sweet talk to other clan leaders so they don't come and wipe you.
6. Acting nice when u need something and being total shit when you don't.
7. You betrayed RuConquista strat 2 and all their plans against us, while they helped you so much.
8. You provided all kind of info about clans you was friendly with just so you could be friendly with us.

I doubt anyone in Greys ts would ever like to talk to you again. Everyone got permission to ban you on sight.

Don't get me wrong, this spy shit and propaganda is not very bad. But you talking about someones 'bullshit' after this - just sounds stupid.

1 Tried? You should check your intel carefully Nebun :D try would mean fail
2 You guys used Wolves to forward all of the Anti UIF messages to UIF, I think its well deserved. Then you even betrayed them too.
3 Do we owe you any truth? how many of anti uif clans got betrayed by UIF? oh you are so honest now?
4 Your allies started with stealing a village from us, and you said yourself : "if you attack Union we will protect them" and now we are threatening you? geez man, I think you deserve it
5 Mercs didn't send him, he went himself. There was a concern in the clan and in the end majority voted against UIF.
6 You act always nice but you are always shit, so what?
7 You should talk to Meow about that Ruconquista thing, seriously its not "mercs" its me Noctivagant. Ruconquista wasn't really open about a point and it was discovered by admins. You are talking utter bullshit for months now. Did you talk to the admins yet? btw about that honesty and crap, how many of your allies have cheated until now and I'm not talking about conspiracy theories, the real cheating that discovered until now? you better keep your head down about betrayals and cheats.
8 What information could you share with us? I don't have information about that.

and you really think while I'm the leader there will be any diplomacy with UIF? hell no. Dave doesn't represent Mercs alone nor do I but my plan got most of the votes My diplomacy with you guys is open, known and simple.

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But ok lets say I'm wrong, everything I did until now is wrong and biased. Why do you think the rest (except UIF) map dislike you? while wave after wave of clans, even the clan who never had a fight with you is joining our cause? Because you are all honest and awesome?

No because you are full of shit thats why, I mean no disrespect but you guys are bunch of self righteous shady people. Just keep repeating yourself, and its really amusing when your allies lose some battle against 1 clan you always start to bark the same song over and over again. Ruconquista, Mercs air the teamspeak stuff, Neutrality. Cmon man you didn't mention the bugged battle where you've lost about 1,5K equipment.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Nebun on October 11, 2012, 01:52:45 pm
lol thats why so many anti uif clans wanted to join uif :)))))
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 11, 2012, 01:58:58 pm
lol thats why so many anti uif clans wanted to join uif :)))))

Stop telling stories and look at the numbers, all you gonna do now is unite powers and gank on each clan with at least 4 clans so you can claim superiority. You never attack someone by yourself, you needed 3 clans to finish Mercs wave after wave you have failed to take one village for weeks. Not to mention some of these clans who were working in UIF sweat shops to provide equipment has unexplainable amount of gold or suspicious IP activity. But its not my place to judge that, only an opinion.

All I see is : UIF can only gank on people to achieve something. We are playing your game at this moment and by your rules. If you want to judge anyone's actions start with yourself. The moment UIF disbands and stops carebaring everyone will stop it. Not to mention that current Strategus system is designed to stop this bullshit. You guys are the best beta testers this game ever seen.

P.S I'm not hurt by these "wiped"stories. If I could win against 3 clans with superior numbers and equipment, I'd declare that I'm god. Its funny that each of these clans who attacked us claiming the victory for themselves. Well glory went to all of you the people who cannot face someone alone, due the medical reason concerning testicles.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Nogu on October 11, 2012, 02:17:23 pm
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Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on October 11, 2012, 02:17:49 pm

I doubt anyone in Greys ts would ever like to talk to you again. Everyone got permission to ban you on sight.


Im already permabanned there..  :cry: I just wanted to trolll cicero a tiny bit.  :(

Anyways we all just arguing history, but I would very much appreciate it if union stops giving nords so much support, its a little bit boring fighting your armies. Also I would appreciate if harpag and cicero stop posting forever. Granted, I dont these either of my wishes will come true. Oh well, maybe if I wish apon a shooting star it will come true.  :)
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Vovka on October 11, 2012, 02:29:11 pm
Stop telling stories and look at the numbers, all you gonna do now is unite powers and gank on each clan with at least 4 clans so you can claim superiority. You never attack someone by yourself, you needed
Lol tell that to COA, Crusaders alliance, Peacebreakers, Guards, And ShtormShtrudels who try gang Jameyd castle XD
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Casimir on October 11, 2012, 02:50:43 pm
stormstrudels lol
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Vovka on October 11, 2012, 02:56:17 pm
stormstrudels lol
i like it too  :P they beat even kapikulu late to reinforce for like 2-5 min and then die all in the desert  :P
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Osiris on October 11, 2012, 03:06:05 pm
1. Tried to sneak into UNION on another key.


1 Tried? You should check your intel carefully Nebun try would mean fail



Then who joined Union with 2nd account, not producing any start points, was caught by Ivan who worked out that his new guy and you have the same ID in different teamspeaks. He even came to talk to you and you didn't deny it.



really nocti? if you actually did that shit then i dont think you get the right to complain about anything they do either  :lol: your no better just a different side  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 11, 2012, 03:21:56 pm
1. Tried to sneak into UNION on another key.


1 Tried? You should check your intel carefully Nebun try would mean fail



Then who joined Union with 2nd account, not producing any start points, was caught by Ivan who worked out that his new guy and you have the same ID in different teamspeaks. He even came to talk to you and you didn't deny it.



really nocti? if you actually did that shit then i dont think you get the right to complain about anything they do either  :lol: your no better just a different side  :rolleyes:

I didn't or I know anyone who joined an another faction with a second account. But sometimes I get offers from faction members to provide information. I always support people who are fed up with UIF.
For example these irl money exchange for crpg equipment forum was provided to me by a DRZ member.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 11, 2012, 03:25:25 pm
Im already permabanned there..  :cry: I just wanted to trolll cicero a tiny bit.  :(

Anyways we all just arguing history, but I would very much appreciate it if union stops giving nords so much support, its a little bit boring fighting your armies. Also I would appreciate if harpag and cicero stop posting forever. Granted, I dont these either of my wishes will come true. Oh well, maybe if I wish apon a shooting star it will come true.  :)

Stop upsetting Ivan by eating his trade S&D and he might not attack you :)

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: DaveUKR on October 11, 2012, 03:37:53 pm
1. Tried to sneak into UNION on another key.


1 Tried? You should check your intel carefully Nebun try would mean fail



Then who joined Union with 2nd account, not producing any start points, was caught by Ivan who worked out that his new guy and you have the same ID in different teamspeaks. He even came to talk to you and you didn't deny it.



really nocti? if you actually did that shit then i dont think you get the right to complain about anything they do either  :lol: your no better just a different side  :rolleyes:

Read my explanation there and you'll see that it's just another portion of bullshit + they're raging because they got fooled. What was done - was done in a legit way since we don't appreciate cheating shit.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Osiris on October 11, 2012, 03:40:36 pm
the way i read it nocti used another key to pretend to be a union member and didnt deny it
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 11, 2012, 03:48:20 pm
Dave logged into UIF TS, pretended to be someone else/aboozed a second cd key, listen to lots of bullshit then was noticed and kicked/banned. Id still call lame ass cheating, but hey.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: DaveUKR on October 11, 2012, 03:49:03 pm
the way i read it nocti used another key to pretend to be a union member and didnt deny it

What?  :lol: Nocti has nothing to do with that, I don't even know if he knew who was doing that. Also, to cut all the crap - the owner of that account is not a Merc member and was not a famous player, he got renamed or even recreated his main character. Here's the quote of mine. That was just an operation of fooling, nobody expected that they can accept someone to strat faction in 5 minutes after being invited to the clan  :mrgreen:


1. I got into Union ladder with my ALT (STR_Povelitel_ - my STF char in the same account as DaveUKR). I got asked to do that because the one who was named STR_Povelitel (without "_" on the end of the name) couldn't speak Russian. And I had no access to that char and I've never logged in. It's not my problem that they couldn't see the difference in the name. Plus the whole spy thing was a big fooling joke. That character was invited by Union to join (Sargon invited him to join). Povelitel had a legend of a noob player, but after he got accepted he reached top10 in duel ladder in 15 minutes, he was also playing with my known armour and I also said to Ivan that I appear in my native city. That was so obvious that it was me that even Ivan came to our TS and said "Damn, it was so obvious". BTW, another piece of shit spread by you about same TS ID in different servers - Povelitel had different TS ID if you didn't know.


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Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: DaveUKR on October 11, 2012, 03:52:23 pm
Dave logged into UIF TS, pretended to be someone else/aboozed a second cd key, listen to lots of bullshit then was noticed and kicked/banned. Id still call lame ass cheating, but hey.

Oh Andswaru, I thought you'd never join this lying fest. Good, you're here. I missed your bullshit.

1. Yes, I logged into UIF TS. Side note: Ivan Grozny doesn't use his name in Merc TS not to be noticed by others, real fact. Beat that, his name in Merc TS has nothing common to his real nickname.
2. I've never used any cd-keys rather than mine. Open your eyes and read. I got accepted to ladder with my alt (Not alternative cd-key but the STF char of DaveUKR account) with the DIFFERENT name of someone who was in strat faction.
3. I didn't listen to anything, I didn't speak there. I was there for 20 minutes, while everyone was silent, then I left TS. I've never been noticed/kicked/banned.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Falka on October 11, 2012, 04:07:28 pm
Oh, so much love here  :wink:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Osiris on October 11, 2012, 04:09:33 pm
meh noctis post made me assume he did it :P

1. Tried to sneak into UNION on another key.
1 Tried? You should check your intel carefully Nebun try would mean fail <-- that reply kind of suggest thats he did it ^^
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 11, 2012, 04:30:23 pm
the way i read it nocti used another key to pretend to be a union member and didnt deny it

get someone to check me if you got doubts, I always suggest that.
Since 2010 April you will find only 2 IPs connected to my account (and no other account. Because I just moved my home 2 times since then and nothing else.
No suspicious amount of gold, no second accounts (3rd 4th etc.), no item duplication can be found in my account nor in my clan. Never was, never will be.

You can also ask admins about how many fishy activities and bugs I have reported. I just get a lot of help from people who dislike bully politics. Also your clan members and the leader are in this list of people who stands on our side. We share intel with you and get the intel in desert area. This precaution were taken after UIF dispatched a whistle blower. So we are using the same way as they did to fight them. Since 2011 some of our tactics have change to adapt enemy tactics. For example, we aired Bashi TS to see if they were talking the truth or not. Its was done because we knew who forwarded our messages to them, it was their tactic at the first place. Cicero didn't take it lightly (nobody likes to be outsmarted) and since then we haven't speak again. I never lied about what we've done, he knew within 15 minutes after the conversation, although UIF never told us who were forwarding our messages (between Byzantium, HRE, Bandits, Wolves and Mercs)

As I said get me checked, if you can. I have to know as much as I can, because we are fighting a dirty enemy. But that doesn't mean that I'll tolerate the lowest tactics. Just yesterday I removed someone from our ladder and got him banned with Nords. Just scroll up to Bagge's post.

Also (ironic) what UIF members mean by betraying Ruconquista is : getting Ruconquista members banned for cheating (which we didn't know about) So their argument is highly invalid.

meh noctis post made me assume he did it :P

1. Tried to sneak into UNION on another key.
1 Tried? You should check your intel carefully Nebun try would mean fail <-- that reply kind of suggest thats he did it ^^

No I meant that we have successfully infiltrated their ranks without multiaccounting
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cicero on October 11, 2012, 07:25:48 pm
Awww mercs never do dirty things guys come on !

Someone typed that they defend themself 1 week last strategus ahahah ofcourse with DRZ items =)

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 11, 2012, 07:35:46 pm
dirty things

Explain your gold first then blame the others, won lottery in Strat 3?
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cicero on October 11, 2012, 07:51:10 pm
Hahaha we quit strategus 3 2 times then came back and merged with Ravens =) Because of your no-skill clan and friends or whatever the fuck u want to explain why u were on NA , we didnt spend our money =)

Be sure noctivagant i got the guy who had that money bug as first who was a kapikulu when the bug happened and he told me everything that templars gave that money or used money to get alliance =) A

Also be sure that we know what u did with money also =))

We were the people who reported the bug instead of using it =)
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Noctivagant on October 11, 2012, 08:06:16 pm
Hahaha we quit strategus 3 2 times then came back and merged with Ravens =) Because of your no-skill clan and friends or whatever the fuck u want to explain why u were on NA , we didnt spend our money =)

Be sure noctivagant i got the guy who had that money bug as first who was a kapikulu when the bug happened and he told me everything that templars gave that money or used money to get alliance =) A

Also be sure that we know what u did with money also =))

We were the people who reported the bug instead of using it =)

both of these gold bugs were reported to chadz and taken away thats why we dont have a huge number like you, none of us. Most of my finances came from Hospitallers, who shared their income with us to protect NA, because Na was getting attacked in EU prime time. Pepo had some hero talk about it on forums. We also did coordinated attacks with em (Mercs to Jelbegi Hospitallers to Hrus castle) mostly we got equipment anyway.

I never had the money bug btw, Kapikulu had it. Spoke to Ozan, Ozan transferred it to Caki (ask Barlas) then I reported it to chadz and chadz removed it. Same for Templars Alpha reported it himself.

And last thing about no skill clan :

We kinda have more glories against 3 of your allies thats 1
You never had a single battle till now, just grinding in UIF sweatshop thats 2 just grinding in one castle to please your masters and to be fair yo barely managed to get to top 3 in any battle. Even a skilless scum like me managed to do that.
We fought Nords equally and finished equally I heard that you bought the heaviest armors and plated chargers to a clan battle thats 3

And the last one is :

Mercs have always but always have better scores than The Empire. Both on public and Strategus. If you want I can post the scores but I doubt that you can calculate. I mean you even sucked with heavier armors against us.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cicero on October 11, 2012, 08:16:43 pm
Mercs and their ego =)

Noone in mercs can beat me in duel shall we continue like this ?

Mercs are totally an unliked clan and im pretty sure any of your allies would easily leave you if they had any other option thats why they tried to gank you before which u made a post and announced me as hero of the battle =)

Its not our fault if you act like a dickhead in diplomacy u had friends before but u lost them one by one as nebun told daveUKR in the post.

We didnt have any clue against mercs but with 1 move on teamspeak u changed urself as our enemy.

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: BlackMilk on October 11, 2012, 08:23:53 pm
Mercs and their ego =)
This coming from Cicero...oh the irony...
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Firebrand on October 11, 2012, 08:46:47 pm
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Придурок он, а не Иван Грозный!
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on October 11, 2012, 10:30:35 pm
Hey Cicero, Ill do best of 5 with you for 100k crpg gold.

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Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Cicero on October 11, 2012, 11:03:51 pm
haha sure muffin just give me date =)

Nice try but do u know that it was me who gave gosling looms that i retired from zangazanga  and later he gave me back when he was able to retire with his alts too ; poor muffin

I already beat those names =) 

Do mercs got a spot that u guys dont whine about ?

UIF
ROBOCOP ITEMS JAMEYYED
ROBOCOP CICERO

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Thovex on October 12, 2012, 12:23:49 am
Hey Cicero, Ill do best of 5 with you for 100k crpg gold.

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Hurr... I would say the guys you mentioned are good duellers but won't beat Cicero...
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Haboe on October 12, 2012, 12:26:04 am
Only 1 way to find out  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Tyr_ on October 12, 2012, 12:30:32 am
Cicero, do you even think before you post? You say no merc can beat me, then muffin gives a list of mercs that already beat you and all you say is "i can kill them too".
I dont say you are a bad player, but there barely is any easier playstile than str 2h with lots of if and heavy armor.

To be honest the best 2h in this game is Bjord anyway, only problem with him is that he isnt using a greatsword anymore :rolleyes:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Thovex on October 12, 2012, 12:30:59 am
Only 1 way to find out  :rolleyes:

Yep!

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on October 12, 2012, 12:33:12 am
Quote
best 2h in this game is Bjord
  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Tyr_ on October 12, 2012, 01:03:05 am
btw, lets go back to the topic

Kittiya may be defeated, but always remember

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Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Crob28 on October 12, 2012, 01:47:09 am
In other news, since when did the greys equip their men with wings :O

Trying to get past the gisim area, and i see Nogu with 300+ men and a load of crates, heading away from me, and then out of my field of vision, 2 hours later I check back and he's attacked me :O how the hell did he move so fast :O lol
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Silicium on October 12, 2012, 03:07:52 am
In other news, since when did the greys equip their men with wings :O

Trying to get past the gisim area, and i see Nogu with 300+ men and a load of crates, heading away from me, and then out of my field of vision, 2 hours later I check back and he's attacked me :O how the hell did he move so fast :O lol

 he probably bought one of them (http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5176/5389303888_6b38c3f2d4_m.jpg) :lol:
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 12, 2012, 08:51:25 am
Because they got a lot of horses from Kittiya and they had a shitload of horses when they attacked. There speed is also a concern of mine. I believe they found another speed bug.

But the speed in strategus is fucked up and its even freezing and u can stay for a hour with no movement. I know this is reported before. I believe tho that there are some bugs concerning calculations of weight and cargo.

grey armys of 350 and 400 both same speed moved from Azgad and to the left side of jelbegi castle mountain in less then 1 hour. I have pics and time table of this.

But do i report this ? nahh who the fuck cares anymore. Strategus is full of cheaters and this time i give a fuck.


Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 12, 2012, 08:53:28 am
But to the mighty greys and STr and nords. U got outplayed 7 armys to get kittiya ? hahaha 5 of those where defeated :)

She got to sell almost all btw so it was a great success up North.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Segd on October 12, 2012, 09:18:53 am
In other news, since when did the greys equip their men with wings :O

Trying to get past the gisim area, and i see Nogu with 300+ men and a load of crates, heading away from me, and then out of my field of vision, 2 hours later I check back and he's attacked me :O how the hell did he move so fast :O lol
It's called speedhack
(click to show/hide)

Btw, about glorious mercs who bravely fought all UIF forces last strat. You just forgot about thousands of full equipped DRZ troops which were obtained by Mercs due to "new Strategus feature". Remember that happened after you spend all of our equip?

P.S. nothing personal. I just need to subscribe to the drama tread   :D
P.P.S. It would be personal when I'll convince Vovka to finally send some DRZ armies to burn Dhirim area :)
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 12, 2012, 10:24:40 am
But to the mighty greys and STr and nords. U got outplayed 7 armys to get kittiya ? hahaha 5 of those where defeated :)

She got to sell almost all btw so it was a great success up North.

Well I think alone the amount of money you spent on horses outspent the total equip on the 1 grey and 1 union army that you defeated. Dont remember 7 battles tho, only 3.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 12, 2012, 10:58:20 am
It's called speedhack
(click to show/hide)

Btw, about glorious mercs who bravely fought all UIF forces last strat. You just forgot about thousands of full equipped DRZ troops which were obtained by Mercs due to "new Strategus feature". Remember that happened after you spend all of our equip?

P.S. nothing personal. I just need to subscribe to the drama tread   :D
P.P.S. It would be personal when I'll convince Vovka to finally send some DRZ armies to burn Dhirim area :)
No it was not, kittiya had 1119 horses about 400 taken from Nords/STR.

Andsvaru u have a small memory.

Segd, Do you think that Mercs are the only ones to benefit from bugs in this game ? What about kittiya now that was standing (with exhauston but still 18.3 speed) still for over 2 hours.
Strat freezing and to me its seems like a bug to do with exhaustion.

anyway Segd, i think that even now you guys dread Emerin, the bugs where known after the first initial attack and u stupid idiots keep doing the same. The cry on forums.
The bugs is a developer issue not about a clan, as long as the clan reports buggs or cheats.

But Drz one of alot of clans that found and used cheats. So please don't even go there.

And a final Note, DRZ would be wiped if i used the bugs that we found last Strat, but we don't use them, we report them.



Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 12, 2012, 11:05:24 am
Andsvaru u have a small memory.

Then list them please.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Miwiw on October 12, 2012, 11:13:58 am
I like how Genzel suddenly is in Merc faction after we attacked him. : ))
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 12, 2012, 11:17:16 am
Yeah apparently they didnt want anything to do with the abooser :( sad times ahead.

edit:

you do know mercs still cant control the roster right (unless they fixed that now)? since he was neutral when the attack happened.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 12, 2012, 11:25:17 am
Sadly posting in this thread makes everybody muted, so that's it for me now. Don't want to discus with imbeciles.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 12, 2012, 11:27:47 am
well Ginger I know (and so does everyone else) it was 3 battles 2 wins for kittaya and 1 win for Greys so  :)

btw who was the rampage admin who muted the whole thread, anyone stepping up and claiming the killing of the thread?
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 12, 2012, 11:34:49 am
No it was not, there where more battles including SoA. 7 armys chase kittiya
5 battles, 1 grey and 1 Str army merged with the other, thus u have seven armys chasing little kittiya around and you got outsmarted.
the last battle in this chase is today grey vs SoA_resolute with the remaining Nord gear from all the fights. so totally 6 battles.

example, Str giving Nords troops to attack the fief, Kittiya gave troops and shit and killed Str army.
kittiya run and sold everything. yeah got cornerd by Greys in the end. but totally u guys got screwed hard up there. When u calculated your troop amount amount of players to chase her.
And the traders from STR turned to two armys. Then this picture is easy math. Nords STR greys used seven times more resources taking kittiya then we lost.
So a great success. 


So Andsvaru sometimes its best to shut up, u might not like the truth.

And yeah i am agreeing that the Admins on this thread should chill  down. But criticism against Admins get u banned so..

Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 12, 2012, 11:38:07 am
No it was not, there where more battles including SoA. 7 armys chase kittiya
5 battles, 1 grey and 1 Str army merged with the other, thus u have seven armys chasing little kittiya around and you got outsmarted.
the last battle in this chase is today grey vs SoA_resolute with the remaining Nord gear from all the fights. so totally 6 battles.

example, Str giving Nords troops to attack the fief, Kittiya gave troops and shit and killed Str army.
kittiya run and sold everything. yeah got cornerd by Greys in the end. but totally u guys got screwed hard up there when u calculated ur troop amount amount of players to chase her, and the traders from STR turned to two armys is all so a great success they cant trade no more for a few days. 


So Andsvaru sometimes its best to shut up, u might not like the truth.

And yeah i am agreeing that the Admins on this thread should chill  down. But criticism against Admins get u banned so..

Ginger you said kittaya battles not the whole war so far. There is a small difference in the number of battles just by kittaya and in the "war" so far.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 12, 2012, 11:41:10 am
Nope all those where there with 1 thing in mind to take out kittiya.
And the other battles where financed and troop exchange by kittiya so how is that unrelevant ?
When you guys even need STR traders, yeah traders who gave you alot of resurces, u had to turn them to a army to be able to handle kittiya.
Still u dint not. hahaha

2 more grey armys where involved to take her down. And she still got the gold from Nord land hehe.

And i believe we had one of the best fight so far in strategus in one of those battles.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Andswaru on October 12, 2012, 11:42:54 am
Well i would of phrased it differently Ginger... but we can agree the war has been fun so far  :P
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 12, 2012, 11:53:48 am
Nahh Strategus is never and have never been fun except for strat 1.

But some good big battles we can have and that's what gets me going. Strategus is destroyed by multi accounting and exploits.
I understood this first in beginning of Strat 4, even tho Strat 3 was broken due to your sides exploits and my clans reporting those bugs.

So in this Strategus i give a shit, and if i find a bug i report it and dont use it.

I believe i just found such a game breaking bug, but i have to test it one time to be sure its really a bug.
Title: Re: KITTIYA ... ... ... Big battle upcomming.
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 12, 2012, 02:35:35 pm
ohh btw : about Genzel applying for Mercs.

[14:33:40] : I made a misstake, yesterday before i saw that post
[14:33:49] cuz when i get banned muted from forum i didnt read
[14:33:57] : then genzel where applying for faction in strat
[14:34:04]: in strat i am every 2 min
[14:34:15] : so then i clicked accept
[14:34:27] : sorry for that but in all fairness i didnt know


So please blame that one on me.