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Title: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Noctivagant on October 03, 2012, 11:52:48 am
Quote from: Melee Gaming
Noctivagant,

You have received a warning for in regards to the following messages:
Re: Free trading area of Dhirim (http://forum.meleegaming.com/index.php?msg=614708) and
Re: Free trading area of Dhirim (http://forum.meleegaming.com/index.php?msg=620231).
The diplomacy forum has its own special rules which are to be followed. Please cease your current posting activities and abide by the forum rules otherwise we will take further action.

You may find the rules here:  http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/important-diplomacy-forum-rules/ (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/important-diplomacy-forum-rules/)

Regards,
The Melee Gaming Team.

Quote from: Noctivagant on September 26, 2012, 05:53:47 pm
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Try to contact them yourself, I'm sure they can be friendly when you show the money or you can buy some bodyguards. We are not called Mercenaries for nothing.

What the hell is wrong with this post (reading the rules that chadz posted)

and on the second post I'm indirectly mentioning the rule :

- stay on topic

Which other people are seriously off-topic and talking about sucking dicks and such in a trade forum, I don't know who you are but you do nothing about it then giving me a warning for what? suggesting people that they should contact us for hiring as bodyguards?

What are you doing seriously?
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Noctivagant on October 03, 2012, 11:55:43 am
http://forum.meleegaming.com/general-discussion/your-warnings-should-actually-inform-what-exactly-was-violated/ +1
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Haboe on October 03, 2012, 11:59:57 am
It seems one of the moderators is trying to prove he is active/ usefull by warning everyone that post something that is in some way potentially maybe not completely related to the topic in the diplomatic section.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Noctivagant on October 03, 2012, 12:02:43 pm
he was just trying to please the crowd like I fucking invited these people to go off topic
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: LordBerenger on October 03, 2012, 12:21:23 pm
Someone of the Global Moderators is clearly enjoying his own powers lol. Hope it's not Canary ;/
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Noctivagant on October 03, 2012, 01:52:02 pm
Well the lesson have learned, just report spam it
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Tennenoth on October 03, 2012, 02:49:06 pm
Quote from: Noctivagant on October 03, 2012, 01:52:02 pm
Well the lesson have learned, just report spam it

Yeah, don't do that because there will only be more warnings for report spam! Personally what you posted above, I would have no trouble with, the image isn't completely relevant to the subject but even though it is diplomacy, you should still be able to joke a little... Half of diplomacy is about making sure you're an approachable person, but then that is me and there will be differences between the moderators as to how hard they come down on people if at all.

Also, checking the logs it states that it was for a video as well; "Diplomacy section (image, video)".

Taking a gander;

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Even I cannot see how that is on topic, it's just insults.

On the other hand, I think I will start writing my own messages that are sent to people if its something that is across multiple posts or similar, shouldn't be too much hassle given the activity of the other mods.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Noctivagant on October 03, 2012, 03:06:56 pm
Quote from: Tennenoth on October 03, 2012, 02:49:06 pm
Yeah, don't do that because there will only be more warnings for report spam! Personally what you posted above, I would have no trouble with, the image isn't completely relevant to the subject but even though it is diplomacy, you should still be able to joke a little... Half of diplomacy is about making sure you're an approachable person, but then that is me and there will be differences between the moderators as to how hard they come down on people if at all.

Also, checking the logs it states that it was for a video as well; "Diplomacy section (image, video)".

Taking a gander;

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Even I cannot see how that is on topic, it's just insults.

On the other hand, I think I will start writing my own messages that are sent to people if its something that is across multiple posts or similar, shouldn't be too much hassle given the activity of the other mods.

Well report spamming me worked didn't it?  then I report spam everything which I didn't mind before but which could be considered against the rules, but things shouldn't work like that.
"I received warning so he should receive too!" thats just dumb sorry. Moderators should not serve for butthurt people.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Tennenoth on October 03, 2012, 03:27:38 pm
Quote from: Noctivagant on October 03, 2012, 03:06:56 pm
Well report spamming me worked didn't it?  then I report spam everything which I didn't mind before but which could be considered against the rules, but things shouldn't work like that.
"I received warning so he should receive too!" thats just dumb sorry. Moderators should not serve for butthurt people.

I don't know, I assume if you said "report spamming me worked" then people did indeed report your posts, probably for their irelevant content. Please don't get me wrong here, I'm just being devil's advocate to get the full picture. I completely agree that things shouldn't work like that, but people aren't above doing it, "tit for tat" and all that.

There has been quite an increase in the number of reports and most of them are rubbish, which is a pain in the arse to sift through, just childish grudges that people seem to have against other clans and players, I see no rhyme or reason for it particularly over strategus that gets wiped every now and then, if you don't like what they did, go and stab them in game and laugh about it, you can't do that in real life to some arsehole can you? (Well, you can, but chances are you won't get away with it!  :lol:)

With regards to "moderators should not serve for butthurt people" - we don't, we see a post, deem it inappropriate and we take action, it doesn't matter who posts a report if there was one at all. I can't speak for the rest of the mods, but personally I don't sit there looking through the reports and go "oh, so-in-so reported blah-blah, I'll warn blah-blah because so-in-so is unhappy."

As I say, report spamming is a bad idea, if we see someone has reported several posts that are perfectly reasonable from a single person for example then it goes through as report spam.

At the end of the day, we're not machines (well... I'm still unconvinced about Odin, always has a massive stock of Gifs...), we're given a set of rules and use our judgement to determine whether someone has broken them, and dish out a punishment equal to our judgement.

This took me too long to write so it probably doesn't make all that much sense.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Noctivagant on October 03, 2012, 03:30:29 pm
Quote from: Tennenoth on October 03, 2012, 03:27:38 pm
I don't know, I assume if you said "report spamming me worked" then people did indeed report your posts, probably for their irelevant content. Please don't get me wrong here, I'm just being devil's advocate to get the full picture. I completely agree that things shouldn't work like that, but people aren't above doing it, "tit for tat" and all that.

There has been quite an increase in the number of reports and most of them are rubbish, which is a pain in the arse to sift through, just childish grudges that people seem to have against other clans and players, I see no rhyme or reason for it particularly over strategus that gets wiped every now and then, if you don't like what they did, go and stab them in game and laugh about it, you can't do that in real life to some arsehole can you? (Well, you can, but chances are you won't get away with it!  :lol:)

With regards to "moderators should not serve for butthurt people" - we don't, we see a post, deem it inappropriate and we take action, it doesn't matter who posts a report if there was one at all. I can't speak for the rest of the mods, but personally I don't sit there looking through the reports and go "oh, so-in-so reported blah-blah, I'll warn blah-blah because so-in-so is unhappy."

As I say, report spamming is a bad idea, if we see someone has reported several posts that are perfectly reasonable from a single person for example then it goes through as report spam.

At the end of the day, we're not machines (well... I'm still unconvinced about Odin, always has a massive stock of Gifs...), we're given a set of rules and use our judgement to determine whether someone has broken them, and dish out a punishment equal to our judgement.

This took me too long to write so it probably doesn't make all that much sense.

http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/free-trading-area-of-dhirim/msg620234/#msg620234 thats speaks for itself.
then I contacted the gmod and he just said : "report it"
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Tennenoth on October 03, 2012, 03:33:50 pm
Quote from: Noctivagant on October 03, 2012, 03:30:29 pm
http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/free-trading-area-of-dhirim/msg620234/#msg620234 thats speaks for itself.
then I contacted the gmod and he just said : "report it"

Well, he's muted now, reading the logs he did quite a number of things wrong. That report was closed recently as well, a warning was given to him for that too, which didn't help his red "muted" tags. That was clearly irelevant and as such reporting it was the right thing to do. The mod probably wasn't going to be able to deal with it at that moment in time. That's just speculation of course.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Son Of Odin on October 03, 2012, 04:08:33 pm
Quote from: Tennenoth on October 03, 2012, 03:27:38 pm
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Good post. I'm going to show my presence too. If you get warning levels from Diplomacy board, there is a high possibility that it's Canary. I'm not particularly interested in diplomatic affairs and rarely post to the section myself (I was able to find one post) so I'm not too eager to go and do Rambo moderating there. It's just logical because I'm not familiar with the role play there. This is just me.

Report spamming (meaning you report several posts in a row and possibly from same user) isn't going to help. It could actually lessen the possibility to intervene in my opinion. I usually start thinking that the report spammer is someone who is permanently butthurt to some people. (Hi Mike!)

Reporting someone for being retarded is also something I find rather peculiar. I mean what do you want ME to do about it?! Delete his post? But you just reported that he's a "retard". I'm not going to discriminate that poor fellow for being disabled. Same goes for all reports containing "idiot", "stupid", "troll" etc. Good informative descriptions fellas...

And yes I could moderate my own gif posting Tenne. Kafein already said there must be several individuals using my account to post Supernatural gifs because he thinks that one man would never bother :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Noctivagant on October 03, 2012, 05:07:36 pm
Generally I'm saying warning without looking at the contents of the topic is not logical, just looking at a single report usually gives the wrong impression (I did moderate on this forum before) Moderator has to see why that user has replied that way and if he is replying to someone to see, if someone is griefing or not. I've seen people reporting replies just to get the other guy in trouble.
The discussion shouldn't go any further than this, its quite obvious and I'm sure everyone got the point.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Tanken on October 03, 2012, 05:11:15 pm
The forum is getting heavily populated with everyone sporting Green Watches!
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Son Of Odin on October 03, 2012, 05:16:07 pm
Quote from: Noctivagant on October 03, 2012, 05:07:36 pm
Generally I'm saying warning without looking at the contents of the topic is not logical, just looking at a single report usually gives the wrong impression.

Amen. That's why I always want to read the whole topic first. And that's why I don't go to diplomacy board. I get confused and hurt my head :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Elindor on October 03, 2012, 05:16:33 pm
Quote from: Tank Burner on October 03, 2012, 05:11:15 pm
The forum is getting heavily populated with everyone sporting Green Watches!

Green Watch club!!

...wait I'm not watched anymore
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: karasu on October 03, 2012, 05:18:40 pm
   Personally, I thought it was funny to see so many people getting "warned status", even global mods and global admins, on the diplomacy threads, while simply discussing "diplomacy".  :lol:

Keyboard cat played you all nicely.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Thovex on October 03, 2012, 05:22:49 pm
I joined the watch-men!
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on October 03, 2012, 05:31:28 pm
Here is my pathetic warning list:

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I am sure some of you have an impressive multi-paged tome... And btw, them NSFW warnings were some MS Paint drawn penises. :( Or may be a dildo or two... Nothing one does not see on TV these days.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Tanken on October 03, 2012, 05:37:22 pm
I drew a penis surrounding my fief claims in Strategus and pubes to indicate where the terrain would slow travelers down...and I didn't get a warning in Diplomacy (plenty of mods and admins actually +1'd it). But god forbid I post a naked alien running down a hallway with a 3 ft wiener swinging back and forth. That warrants 40% warning!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Son Of Odin on October 03, 2012, 05:40:23 pm
Quote from: Tank Burner on October 03, 2012, 05:37:22 pm
But god forbid I post a naked alien running down a hallway with a 3 ft wiener swinging back and forth. That warrants 40% warning!  :lol:
Lol I've seen that one in the inactive reported posts :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Joseph Porta on October 03, 2012, 05:55:34 pm
Did they step up their game or do the global moderators have a bad week? I've never seen this much complaints about it in such a short notice..
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on October 03, 2012, 05:56:56 pm
Quote from: Joseph_Porta on October 03, 2012, 05:55:34 pm
Did they step up their game or do the global moderators have a bad week? I've never seen this much complaints about it in such a short notice..

Meah, just this time of the month.

EDIT:
   
True story: 
Asked my wife for some cash, to buy a pack of smokes, since ATM is a bit far away from the gas station. And she told me to go to ATM and leave my dick at the gas station as collateral, since it is worth about the same... :( Told her that her mom valued my dick at least twice as much. She got really pissed. Was that time of the month... We are good now though.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: LordBerenger on October 03, 2012, 06:01:29 pm
Quote from: Armpit_Sweat on October 03, 2012, 05:31:28 pm
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I am sure some of you have an impressive multi-paged tome... And btw, them NSFW warnings were some MS Paint drawn penises. :( Or may be a dildo or two... Nothing one does not see on TV these days.

Get on my level scrub!


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And also a 100% non-listed perma-ban ''warning''.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on October 03, 2012, 06:09:38 pm
Quote from: CountBerenger on October 03, 2012, 06:01:29 pm
Get on my level scrub!

And also a 100% non-listed perma-ban ''warning''.


Ahah-haha-ah-ahahh!!

Priceless:

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Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 03, 2012, 06:16:18 pm
Quote from: Joseph_Porta on October 03, 2012, 05:55:34 pm
Did they step up their game or do the global moderators have a bad week? I've never seen this much complaints about it in such a short notice..


Personally I'm getting irritated by the lack of consistency as only a select few of the "diplomacy rules" are being followed. Pictures are swiftly punished and such, but "modern references" are still fine?  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:  Someone is picking and choosing...
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: BlindGuy on October 03, 2012, 06:22:53 pm
Quote from: Tears of Destiny on October 03, 2012, 06:16:18 pm
Someone is picking and choosing...


Probably not, probably just lazy + angry at something unconnected.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on October 03, 2012, 09:03:10 pm
MODMIN ABUSE START THE TRIAL!
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Leshma on October 03, 2012, 09:06:42 pm
Posting warning list is not a good idea.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 03, 2012, 09:22:42 pm
Don't forget, they are always rude when giving warning  :evil:


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March 20, 2012, 05:24:17 pm   idiot posting

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January 11, 2012, 12:40:01 pm   Google translate monkey business in subforum

Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: oprah_winfrey on October 03, 2012, 09:35:21 pm
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Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Tibe on October 03, 2012, 09:48:39 pm
Got warnings myself. I think I mainly broke this rule in the diplomacysection:
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no links to outside pictures, unless they really fit (ok: strategus map screenshot, not ok: link to 4chan images)
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Goretooth on October 03, 2012, 11:32:32 pm
Now report people you don't like
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: TugBoat on October 03, 2012, 11:43:44 pm
I find the high number of warned people in this forum to be super entertaining.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Tennenoth on October 03, 2012, 11:45:54 pm
Quote from: Armpit_Sweat on October 03, 2012, 06:09:38 pm

Ahah-haha-ah-ahahh!!

Priceless:

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My personal favourite had to be on the old forums, it was for "space-bar terrorism". I'll add nothing more to that but I always found it amusing. I'm not sure anyone should have anything against posting [usually] your own warning history since its [usually] your own fault that you have it.

Edit in case someone wants to be sarky.
Edit again because I put the original in the wrong place!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Leshma on October 03, 2012, 11:50:00 pm
Quote from: Tennenoth on October 03, 2012, 11:45:54 pm
I'm not sure anyone should have anything against posting [usually] your own warning history since it's your own fault that you have it.

Last time someone posted warning history, it was removed by cmp I think.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Tennenoth on October 04, 2012, 12:14:17 am
Quote from: Leshma on October 03, 2012, 11:50:00 pm
Last time someone posted warning history, it was removed by cmp I think.

Well, he's the boss. I'm merely voicing my opinion!  :wink:

That "[usually]" is in the wrong place, thanks for pointing it out!
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: dodnet on October 04, 2012, 04:14:08 pm
I was warned too... I now fear to be muted for posting anything... THE FEAR SO MUCH!  :(
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Segd on October 04, 2012, 04:43:44 pm
Quote from: Melee Gaming
Segd,

You have received a warning in regards to the message:
Re: The Annexation of Ismirala (http://forum.meleegaming.com/index.php?msg=618434).
The diplomacy forum has its own special rules which are to be followed. Please cease your current posting activities and abide by the forum rules otherwise we will take further action.

You may find the rules here:  http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/important-diplomacy-forum-rules/ (http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/important-diplomacy-forum-rules/)

Regards,
The Melee Gaming Team.
Got my warning in the topic full of the drama, off-topic, flame etc. :(
I guess it is because of the picture.

So you could make gay\dick\yourmum jokes, insult people, flood etc. but never...
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Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: Rikthor on October 04, 2012, 06:21:31 pm
If you are watched/warned/muted, it's a badge of honor. This community is awful and deserves to be ridiculed 99.9% of the time. It's a scarlet letter of pride.
Title: Re: Dear Global Moderator
Post by: ednos on October 04, 2012, 08:08:33 pm
Quote from: Tears of Destiny on October 03, 2012, 06:16:18 pm
Personally I'm getting irritated by the lack of consistency as only a select few of the "diplomacy rules" are being followed. Pictures are swiftly punished and such, but "modern references" are still fine?  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:  Someone is picking and choosing...

I got warned for a reference to IEDs, so it's being enforced as far as I can tell. I think part of the problem is that the majority of posts in the Diplomacy forum are so far outside the rules that there isn't enough time in a day to warn for each in violation.