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Title: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 29, 2012, 04:49:17 pm
Title says it all. Currently we don't get ticks for playing in a strat battle and that should change.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Harpag on September 29, 2012, 04:56:34 pm
+1
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Rikthor on September 29, 2012, 04:57:35 pm
Title says it all. Currently we don't get ticks for playing in a strat battle and that should change.

Agreed. +1
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Tanken on September 29, 2012, 05:11:30 pm
Would be nice.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Turkhammer on September 29, 2012, 05:18:34 pm
+1
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: LordBerenger on September 29, 2012, 05:28:31 pm
I'd say find a way to convert strat ticks into either gold or what not.

I got like...close to 2k tickets. Troop gain and what not is too slow. So tickets never waste. Not to mention there should be other services perhaps which requires tickets to use.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Bjarky on September 29, 2012, 06:43:44 pm
+1
gimme tic tacs D:
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 06, 2012, 03:05:33 am
BUMP

Also Mcdeath, why'd you minus that? Guess you like grinding on siege/battle?
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: dodnet on October 14, 2012, 05:30:08 am
BUMP! Please implement, Im running out of tickets because I only play strat battles lately. Being forced to play normal cRPG just for the tickets sucks if you want to play in strategus.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Kelugarn on October 14, 2012, 05:51:51 am
Agreed, another solid idea Anders.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: LordBerenger on October 14, 2012, 05:00:41 pm
I got 3k tickets now. They're f'n useless. Implement convert option or something asap! Take like 1 ticket per troop per hour or whatever.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: dodnet on October 14, 2012, 07:27:12 pm
I got 3k tickets now. They're f'n useless. Implement convert option or something asap! Take like 1 ticket per troop per hour or whatever.

I've got almost no left because I haven't played cRPG. I HAVE played a few Strategus battles though, and now being unable to do anything anymore sucks.

BTW... what will happen if I run out of tickets? Will I be unable to move, trade, attack or just stop recruiting/getting gold?
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Kelugarn on October 14, 2012, 07:47:56 pm
I got 3k tickets now. They're f'n useless. Implement convert option or something asap! Take like 1 ticket per troop per hour or whatever.

At your troop cap ticks give 10g per hour (I think).
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: LordBerenger on October 14, 2012, 07:51:25 pm
I've got almost no left because I haven't played cRPG. I HAVE played a few Strategus battles though, and now being unable to do anything anymore sucks.

BTW... what will happen if I run out of tickets? Will I be unable to move, trade, attack or just stop recruiting/getting gold?



At your troop cap ticks give 10g per hour (I think).

That's nothing :/
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Firebrand on October 14, 2012, 08:25:02 pm
What for strat ticks needed??
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 14, 2012, 10:18:17 pm
WHY did people down vote this idea? BEST IDEA EVAR....

SHould I have put up a poll?
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Kelugarn on October 15, 2012, 08:34:04 am
WHY did people down vote this idea? BEST IDEA EVAR....

SHould I have put up a poll?

It will make us all feel better.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 15, 2012, 03:38:00 pm
Added da poll!
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: dodnet on October 15, 2012, 03:44:47 pm
Added da poll!

Was about time!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Firebrand on October 15, 2012, 04:04:03 pm
NO
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: dodnet on October 15, 2012, 04:31:57 pm
NO

Why?  :shock:
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Firebrand on October 15, 2012, 04:36:47 pm
Why?  :shock:
I have a lot of that tickets(2500) and i don't know what to do with them. And you wanna give me more!

P.S. If i could sell them...
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: dodnet on October 15, 2012, 04:39:54 pm
Yeah, just because you have tons of it...  :rolleyes:

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Strategus Ticks Left: 43
  :cry:
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Firebrand on October 15, 2012, 04:44:41 pm
Yeah, just because you have tons of it...  :rolleyes:
  :cry:
If i could i would give you 1000 tickets!  :)
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 15, 2012, 05:26:52 pm
I have a lot of that tickets(2500) and i don't know what to do with them. And you wanna give me more!

P.S. If i could sell them...

No life....

that's 2500+24*28*2(total tickets to date) minutes you played crpg.

3844 tickets is  64 hours of crpg playing. nearly 3 solid days....
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Firebrand on October 15, 2012, 05:57:03 pm
No life....

that's 2500+24*28*2(total tickets to date) minutes you played crpg.

3844 tickets is  64 hours of crpg playing. nearly 3 solid days....
Wut? I played DTV from beginning of strat. Strategus Ticks Left: 1838
How much minutes is it???
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 15, 2012, 06:03:58 pm
it's 1 tick per minute under normal battle/siege.

But If you play DTV...I don't KNOW the exact conversion. I came up with 53 hours, assuming normal play time.1838 plus all possible ticks used to date(24*28*2). Gets you like 3100 total ticks to date give or take 2-3 days. Leave as is for minutes played. Divide by 60 to get your hours. Divide by 24 to get your days.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Firebrand on October 15, 2012, 06:08:54 pm
it's 1 tick per minute under normal battle/siege.

But If you play DTV...I don't KNOW the exact conversion. I came up with 53 hours, assuming normal play time.1838 plus all possible ticks used to date(24*28*2). Gets you like 3100 total ticks to date give or take 2-3 days. Divide by 60 to get your hours. Divide by 24 to get your days. Leave as is for minutes played.
What for those ticks are meant to be? To make ppl play more cRPG or something?
P.S. Stop minusing my posts!
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 15, 2012, 06:36:32 pm
http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-general-discussion/strategus-4-faq/

Troops and gold.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 22, 2012, 04:05:35 pm
Bump

Needs fix!
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 30, 2013, 03:58:20 pm
Bump for great justice!
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Macropus on February 01, 2013, 10:22:24 am
Strategus Ticks Left: 11604

I don't know what to do with it.   :|

But anyway, the idea is pretty good!
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Aderyn on February 01, 2013, 11:35:02 am
Strategus Ticks Left: 11604

I don't know what to do with it.   :|

But anyway, the idea is pretty good!

you can be afk for a year and keep recruiting the whole time without playing. Grats!
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Bjarky on February 01, 2013, 11:38:07 am
Strategus Ticks Left: 11604
I don't know what to do with it.   :|
i know what u could do with it  :wink:
we need moar troops to besiege u guys with soon, get over here and gimme them sexy bear troops  :P
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Macropus on February 01, 2013, 01:43:52 pm
you can be afk for a year and keep recruiting the whole time without playing. Grats!
The sad thing is I still enjoy playinc cRPG and don't want to go afk  :cry:

Would be nice if having a lot of ticks would increase the speed they're spending on farming troops. I mean, if you have a lot of points - they're converted to troops faster.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 01, 2013, 05:03:53 pm
There's people (like my bro) who only play in strategus battles, but they can't do shit in strategus overview because they don't play in cRPG.  Seems kind of ridiculous you can play many hours of strategus battles a week, but you don't get any strat ticks for it.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Sir_Winston_Churchill on February 06, 2013, 10:09:08 pm
Bump for ticks

I've had zero for the past week even though I've played about 3-5 hours of strat battles. I just don't have time to grind it out in "normal" crpg because of studying, class, etc.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 11, 2013, 10:12:39 pm
Um BUMP since it's STILL NOT DONE, 4 MONTHS AFTER PROPOSAL.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: partyboy on March 12, 2013, 05:26:14 am
Um BUMP since it's STILL NOT DONE, 4 MONTHS AFTER PROPOSAL.

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Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: woody on March 13, 2013, 04:23:32 pm
This will make entry curve for non clans even more impossible.

You cant get picked for most big battles unless clan affiliated.

So counter suggestion, if want strat ticks for strat NO crpg character experience.

Take the 500,000 plus bonus for big battle sieges or strat ticks.

Since this is in strat thread and 80% of crpg players, and nearly all independents, have given up on strat since impossible unless in big clan I fully expect one eyed condemnation of this post from the players who want to keep their plaything to a tiny group of people.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 13, 2013, 05:14:30 pm
This will make entry curve for non clans even more impossible.

You cant get picked for most big battles unless clan affiliated.

So counter suggestion, if want strat ticks for strat NO crpg character experience.

Take the 500,000 plus bonus for big battle sieges or strat ticks.

Since this is in strat thread and 80% of crpg players, and nearly all independents, have given up on strat since impossible unless in big clan I fully expect one eyed condemnation of this post from the players who want to keep their plaything to a tiny group of people.

You are obviously NOT in the know about strat. If you got 0 xp, then you wouldn't have rosters to fight. The only reason people REALLY play is cause of the xp.

And I must say I disagree with you. Anyone can join a battle if you cared enough to join. The point of this thread is that for spending 1.5 hours playing in a big battle, you should get SOME strat ticks off of it.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 13, 2013, 05:14:45 pm
Nobody would want strat ticks for fighting in strat battles over getting 500,000 XP (well not most people, maybe some of the people who only play strategus battles and don't play in the public servers). 

I don't see any down side to getting strat ticks for fighting in strat battles, it's a no brainer that you should be getting strat ticks for actually playing the game.

Independents can get into strat battles if they sign up, are a high enough level, and are there for roll call.  It helps if you're good and people recognize your name.  If you're really jonesing for a strat battle, then join a clan that fights in them, or join a friendly faction to those fighting.  There's always extra slots for non-affiliated players or factions in every strat battle.  Every single one.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Krosis on March 13, 2013, 07:03:20 pm
Currently have 22840.. getting more from strat would be crazy..

why don't we just make them trade-able or something, wouldn't mind trading some of these for gold :P
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: woody on March 13, 2013, 09:56:00 pm

"You are obviously NOT in the know about strat. If you got 0 xp, then you wouldn't have rosters to fight. The only reason people REALLY play is cause of the xp.

And I must say I disagree with you. Anyone can join a battle if you cared enough to join. The point of this thread is that for spending 1.5 hours playing in a big battle, you should get SOME strat ticks off of it."

Missed the point. Part of reason for strat ticks is to keep crpg servers populated and produce some connection between non strat and strat parts of game. If splits into strat and crpg main you will be left with clans only in strat and few people on non strat servers. If your aim is to reduce mod to tiny split population you should have overall charge you'd achieve it quick.

If only reason people fight strat battles is for xp jump what a waste of time kill it now.

And as for anyone can join big strat battles UTTER bollocks, applied for 6 in row didnt fight in any.




Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 13, 2013, 10:53:52 pm
Missed the point. Part of reason for strat ticks is to keep crpg servers populated and produce some connection between non strat and strat parts of game. If splits into strat and crpg main you will be left with clans only in strat and few people on non strat servers. If your aim is to reduce mod to tiny split population you should have overall charge you'd achieve it quick.

If only reason people fight strat battles is for xp jump what a waste of time kill it now.

And as for anyone can join big strat battles UTTER bollocks, applied for 6 in row didnt fight in any.

Point 1: Incorrect. Strat ticks are to remove Multi accounting easiness, as well as force those who wish to use strat to at least be active in crpg. Since it seems you don't know, but before there used to be NO ticks and you could do ANYTHING all the time at NO cost provided you could use an internet browser. Now you have to play crpg to do anything. When they added in ticks, it was supposed to be for strat too, since 1.5 hours is a LONG time to play a battle and people should be rewarded for it. In Regular Servers you would get XP, GOLD, and TICKS. For strat all you get is XP.

Point 2: Did you show up in Teamspeaks? No? Well Good luck getting hired. No one's going to hire you if you ARE NOT THERE for there orders.

It seems you know NOTHING of strat so I will not speak to you any further. Applying is only 1 of multiple things to be done. I've seen and accepted people that aren't "Block Allied" every single battle. EVERY FACTION HAS.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 14, 2013, 04:40:43 pm
So woody, people who only play strategus and not c-rpg shouldn't be able to be useful in the strategus overview, even though they participate in battles (aka play strategus)?  That makes absolutely no sense...these are people who are playing strategus, but can't do anything on the overview because they don't play in c-rpg public servers.  That's completely ridiculous.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: woody on March 18, 2013, 08:38:20 pm
Point is to try to provide some integration between crpg and strategus by making players new to strategus who are not clan based of some value.

Already strategus is limited to very closed users, I would be interested to see number of inactive strat players who have tried and given up.

Main motive now seems to be large sieges that generate masses of xp for strat clans, which are closed to most non clan users. I am not the worst crpg player but cannot get accepted for any large battles.

I would guess Strategus has maybe 400 active users tops, take away troop farmers and number would fall to just active ones in same few clans. Look at rosters for large sieges in last 30 days on EU, willing to bet most large sieges fought by predominantly same users.

As for anders - says I am wrong one aim of ticks was not to get people in crpg servers it was to get people active in crpg servers. Wow that told me, devasting argument. Assume English is not your first language? And yes I do go to TS when accepted. 
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on March 18, 2013, 08:47:54 pm
Hey yo,
i upvoted thread and gave +1 no worries Lt. Anders :D

BUT in my opninion, they should Not give strategus ticks for strat battles, because then even more players would only play cRPG when there are strategus battles and the official servers (EU1, EU2,...) would be even less populated...
maybe it will not be like this when they change it, but i think so and thats why i wouldnt add this.

greets,
chris :)

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Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Aderyn on March 18, 2013, 08:58:04 pm
Add ticks for strategus battles. Normal battlemode sucks nowdays. >.<
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on March 18, 2013, 08:59:41 pm
Add ticks for strategus battles. Normal battlemode sucks nowdays. >.<
thats what i meant...

if they want to play strategus they HAVE to play on official servers what keeps the game up...aderyn would be the first saying "good life NA1, im going to camp NA3 now"

you see my point?
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Aderyn on March 18, 2013, 09:02:35 pm
thats what i meant...

if they want to play strategus they HAVE to play on official servers what keeps the game up...aderyn would be the first saying "good life NA1, im going to camp NA3 now"

you see my point?

err, let's see if i understood you correctly...

So you want to force people to play a boring game mode in order to be able to do something in the fun game mode?
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 18, 2013, 09:16:45 pm
So Chris,

You think it's fair (or correct) that people who only play strategus battles/sieges can't do anything in the strategus overview?

That just seems backwards as fuck...here you have people actively playing in strategus battles, but can't recruit troops or get gold in the overview without playing in the cRPG public servers (which are in no way tied to strategus except for strat ticks gained in cRPG public servers)? 

Looks like you and Woody are in a 7.5 to 1 minority (aka 13% of people agree with you, aka 87% of people disagree with you)
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on March 18, 2013, 09:41:19 pm
err, let's see if i understood you correctly...

So you want to force people to play a boring game mode in order to be able to do something in the fun game mode?
without cRPG there would not be strategus, so cRPG as mod itself is the real game in this and strategus is the submod for it...so basically yes, i would try to force people playing cRPG instead of let them play only strategus battles where they gain there huge xps and thats it.
i think chadz has made this game to have a nice community playing one game everyday and when you think its boring strategus battles should be boring aswell (i mean strategus battles are still cRPG mechanics right?)

You think it's fair (or correct) that people who only play strategus battles/sieges can't do anything in the strategus overview?
yes, because the origin game chadz made for us is cRPG and not strategus.

this is my opinion and for me it is totally uninteresting if they add this or not, because i like playing on public servers alot and thats the reason why we all play this mod, because we like it anyhow, and i will not stop playing on EU1...but im scared that sometime after they have added this...i will be alone on EU1...and then the mod is really dead...and then there will be no strategus anymore (which i like alot aswell)

my thaught, my opinion, you cant change it.

greets,
chris
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Knitler on March 18, 2013, 10:02:45 pm
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Thats enough for 314days ... Muahah ... i kinda got enough :-D
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Segd on March 18, 2013, 10:08:21 pm
UA_Segd

Strategus Ticks Left: 1

Had this for months :(
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on March 18, 2013, 10:16:11 pm
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E-peen: 2.038.149
noice :D

i realized that mine is much smaller   :cry:
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Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Lt_Anders on March 18, 2013, 10:47:35 pm
i realized that mine is much smaller   :cry:
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Heh, notice: You got 4000 ticks, I am a VERY busy person and can rarely put in 2-3 hours of crpg. (Due to: Work, School, or I just can't stand grinding)

But, if it's 1.5 hours, I can usually do that, and I will often, to play a strat battle. So for someone, like me, it's important. I can't play often and when I do, it's often a long strat battle. I've fought in MANY battles, yet I have such a dismal amount of ticks. I was happy I had 200!


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As for anders - says I am wrong one aim of ticks was not to get people in crpg servers it was to get people active in crpg servers. Wow that told me, devasting argument. Assume English is not your first language? And yes I do go to TS when accepted. 

As I can't understand this: The argument was that there WERE no ticks, and people could do anything in strat. The Ticks were a way of REDUCING Multi accounting(it's ease of use). Since there were no restrictions, it came down to how many "troop Farmers" you could get, and multi accounting(IE 1 guy with more than 1 character on strat or 1 guy controlling all characters) allowed you to have very High(and very inactive) troop farmers.

Now with ticks you still HAVE the farmers, but they have to play crpg(and maintain a x2 or higher) to get strat ticks. So If you have bad x1 spurts not only do you get shit xp and gold, you get NOTHING for strat.

But most people who play strat are the ones who's opinion's matter(and this thread is aimed by us to the devs). If you don't play strat then you have no right to complain. And by playing I mean maintain a character on the strat map, not just fight battles. Everyone who fights in battles ALSO has a character on the map(even if they are a troop farmer).

Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Smoothrich on March 19, 2013, 10:44:54 am
The real issue here is that regular cRPG/Battle mode is garbage for tons of players.  It simply isn't played anymore.  Its outdated and the gameplay is awful, and most of the patches and new items honestly do nothing but make things worse or add some imbalanced flavor that no one really cares about.

Good base of the mod now only are interested in Strategus battles, as the big armies, fun maps (except some castles, mostly because of buggy as fuck siege equipment or walls that hasn't been fixed and is currently 100 percent broken), and TDM/Conquest style gameplay is actually, you know, a pretty good game.  Something Siege/Battle mode isn't.  Plus actually reasonable XP gain.  No ticks for the only good part of the mod is a slap in the face.

So, either you could try adding a TDM/Conquest mode for public servers and I (and many others) might actually play it, or just add ticks to Strat.  Ideally, change Strategus around so there's simply more battles with less bullshit to get armies together.  That way more players can participate in them as well.

I'd rather get banned for leeching EU DTV servers for Strat ticks then actually play 5 minutes of Battle, that's how bad the mod has become outside of Strat.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: kinngrimm on March 21, 2013, 06:59:26 pm
agreed, but also please give us some other ways to burn those tickets.

atm i have roughly 6k tickets and didn't even play that much the last 3 months on offcial servers. Use them to build something or repair walls after a siege ... anything but make them more usefull.

And while we are at it, renown, shouldn't that have some major new things connected?
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: Turkhammer on March 21, 2013, 08:54:02 pm
agreed, but also please give us some other ways to burn those tickets.

atm i have roughly 6k tickets and didn't even play that much the last 3 months on offcial servers. Use them to build something or repair walls after a siege ... anything but make them more usefull.

And while we are at it, renown, shouldn't that have some major new things connected?

You could give a poor peasant farmer (like me) 1000 of them.  It will assure your place in heaven.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: MURDERTRON on March 23, 2013, 03:41:00 pm
You could give a poor peasant farmer (like me) 1000 of them.  It will assure your place in heaven.

Actually he can't.  I don't want to list how many I have, it really may be more than anyone else, but there's nothing you can do with them besides let strategus consume them.  Also, crpg gives plenty of ticks, no reason to make strategus give you ticks.  Both systems feed into each other the way it should be.
Title: Re: Give strat ticks for fighting in strat battles
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 25, 2013, 03:50:36 pm
Actually he can't.  I don't want to list how many I have, it really may be more than anyone else, but there's nothing you can do with them besides let strategus consume them.  Also, crpg gives plenty of ticks, no reason to make strategus give you ticks.  Both systems feed into each other the way it should be.

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