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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: Corsair831 on September 27, 2012, 01:01:20 pm

Title: troop upkeep levels ?
Post by: Corsair831 on September 27, 2012, 01:01:20 pm
just a quick question about the upkeep, in strat 3 if i had 49 troops i would pay 0 gold per hour, 50-59 1 gold, 60-69, 2 gold etc etc.

In strat 4, if i have 149 troops do i pay upkeep in a band of 140-149 or what ?

so is the most efficient number to have 149 instead of 150 is what i mean (due to different "tax bands(lol)")

thanks, corsair ;)
Title: Re: troop upkeep levels ?
Post by: Moncho on September 27, 2012, 01:07:16 pm

7) What is the upkeep on troops?
- Upkeep = ceil((pow(#troops,1.6)*0.035 - 56) / 24)
- Upkeep of garrisoned troops in fiefs = ceil((pow($troops, 1.02) * 1 - 100)/24)

So up to 100 it is free, then 101-125 is 1, 126-148 is 2, 149-168 is 3, etc. Just use that formula and get the numbers.
Title: Re: troop upkeep levels ?
Post by: Corsair831 on September 27, 2012, 01:17:14 pm
So up to 100 it is free, then 101-125 is 1, 126-148 is 2, 149-168 is 3, etc. Just use that formula and get the numbers.

yeah, thanks for that mate, i'm suffering from being quite stupid, and not understanding that formula to save my life :D


what do "ceil" and "pow" stand for pls ? :S
Title: Re: troop upkeep levels ?
Post by: Moncho on September 27, 2012, 01:42:04 pm
ceil means the smallest integer (..., -2, -1, 0 ,1,2,3,4,5, ...) that is bigger (or equal) than the current number. So ceil(1)=1, ceil(0.5)=1, ceil(1.0001)=2, ceil(-0.5)=0, etc.

pow(a,b) means a^b, the exponential. Example pow(2,3)=2^3=2*2*2=8
Title: Re: troop upkeep levels ?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 27, 2012, 04:24:04 pm
That didnt' help for us non-math nerds.

If someone could put up a spreadsheet or extrapolate the information into troop sizes, that would be much appreciated.  Maybe in intervals of 100 up to 1000 (since it was said over 1000 troops and you will move VERY slow, much slower than 1000 troops in strat 3)
Title: Re: troop upkeep levels ?
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 27, 2012, 04:49:26 pm
http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-general-discussion/strategus-4-faq/msg613210/#msg613210

He put it all into a google Doc.

But suffice it to say, if you have enough ticks, you can have 284 troops on yourself.
Title: Re: troop upkeep levels ?
Post by: Braeden on September 27, 2012, 07:03:00 pm
It comes out to something like this

troops - daily cost - weekly cost
100 0 0
200 112 785
300 265 1859
500 673 4708
1000 2152 15066
Title: Re: troop upkeep levels ?
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on September 28, 2012, 10:09:49 am
It comes out to something like this

troops - daily cost - weekly cost
100 0 0
200 112 785
300 265 1859
500 673 4708
1000 2152 15066

Now thats a nice oversight for a user like me who has no idea about formulas, math, programming or whatsoever. Thank you.
Title: Re: troop upkeep levels ?
Post by: Taser on September 29, 2012, 08:25:54 pm
Just bumping this to ask a similar question.

What's the percentage difference for troop upkeep for garrisoned troops vs non garrisoned troops?
Title: Re: troop upkeep levels ?
Post by: Braeden on September 29, 2012, 08:53:15 pm
Check out this tool from Elmokki:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AndZsiPEJtczdFRuQjBQbHJUZ2twV1RjTHB6YmRhc1E#gid=4
Title: Re: troop upkeep levels ?
Post by: Taser on September 30, 2012, 03:30:52 am
Very much appreciated, thanks.
Title: Re: troop upkeep levels ?
Post by: Dan lol on September 30, 2012, 04:45:35 am
Those numbers are actually pretty interesting, maybe people will actually make big ole hosts under a bunch of dudes instead of mobbing around with 1500 troops on a single guy like last time