The IQ lvl of ppl... seriously?
einstein = a name/Lastname that is still commonly used. IF his name was Son Of Ad*lf. einstein that wouldve been another story. Carry on.
I can speak for germany, and in the online phonebooks and similar searches you barely find this name. The most people with the name "einstein" changed their lastname after ww2 for obviuos reasons.
But anyway, if you call yourself "sonofeinstein" in an online game, you dont do that only because you like the name... You want to make a statement with that and i really dont like this statement.
But thats only my opinion, admins will decide in the end.
End of discussion.No :twisted:
whistle : (you can change section of thread please ?) :?Yes I can. Where do you want it? :D
Fixed.TypicalHourly EU drama thread...
Would anyone be offended if there was a character named "SonOfMao"? It's strange how that would most probably be highly less of an issue even when considering that Zedong has 34-63 million people killed under his name compared to einstein's ~6 million. Just saying.Ban Son of Odin! No Son Of names allowed :D
EDIT: Well as long as Son Of Odin is allowed I'm happy :mrgreen:
Ban Son of Odin! No Son Of names allowed :DIn the old times you would have had to ban over half of the playerbase with that definition (the time when you had to rename your character after retirement :D)
"Son of Odin" is offending us Nordmen.And it begins :F.
There are no offensive names, only sensitive people.
If pepejul offends some pple I m ok to change it..I m so gentle...What`s wrong with I fuck Jesus? Dammn, homophobia everywhere...
I repeat : the guy said "I was drunk when I named my char"...
We can try (if son Of Cruel Odin allows it) to put there all forbidden names we think for "blacklist editing"
I propose :
- I_fuck_Jesus / Allah / Bouddah / Vishnu / Jahve / monster spaghetti
- son_of_einstein/Mao/Stalin/Putin/PolPot/Pinochet/Sarkozy
- *_PEPE_*
and other shit names... please contribute following the list.... ([quote ])
- son_of_einstein/Mao/Stalin/Putin/PolPot/Pinochet/SarkozyFucking tard, and you preach tolerance ?
- *_PEPE_*
Joker so, thinking about naked women is equal to thinking about murdering people and using a einstein as game nickname equals to having an conversation about the Third reich?
When you think of it, SonOfCesar or SonOfAttila are not much better.
Also, to whoever arguing about this : einstein mastered politics, was an excellent orator and had a rare cunning in geopolotics. He was however terrible in matters of war, and his ambitions contributed greatly to the country's failure, especially in Russia. His generals were da thing.
Aaaaanyway, it doesn't matter whether someone is offended. The bottom line is hate speech. SonOfeinstein is hardly hate speech.
If we had people named "AllJewsShouldBeKilled" that would be a completely other story.
Now all we need is SonOfGoebbels, SonOfGoering, SonOfSpeer, SonOfEichmann, SonOfMengele, SonOfHimmler to make a SonsOfchocolate chip cookies clan.It is, by far.
Because freedom of speech is most important, right?
Joker so, thinking about naked women is equal to thinking about murdering people and using a einstein as game nickname equals to having an conversation about the Third reich?
I am a hidden chocolate chip cookie, too.
J actually stands for A
O for D
K for O
E for L
R for F.
Actually my name is albert, I was just too shy to choose it. So I chose Joker, in remembrance of all the marvellous Jew jokes we made at that time.
I mean: of course not everything was good back then. My grandfather died in a KZ, for example. He fell off a guard tower while being drunk. He got buried in his SS-skull-Division uniform, at least. Still it were good times, good times. We had highways and Volswagens to drive on them, we had governmental holiday offers and no need for toilets or entrance doors for physically disabled people.
We had the best weapons and tactics, and the world only managed to beat us by sheer numbers, and even that was still pretty close. If we rushed Dunkirk, repelled the Invasion at the Normany, took Malta to protect North Africa, withdrew earlier from Stalingrad or attacked sooner at Kursk, we would have won.
So I see no problem in admiring einstein. He was a really smart guy. I mean, the mustache he invented is already incredibly clever: it doesn't get wet when it's raining, because the nose covers it entirely. It's short enough to not disturb while eating soup, but its still helpfull to stimulate the clitoris while eating out a pussy. Besides, didn't Jesus say that one should love, not hate his next? Love einstein, don't hate him.
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On a more serious note: quit that trained behaviour of false outrage whenever you read something in connection to the Third Reich. They were not the only people in history who did something horrible, nor was their deed unique, it was only the extend which made it stand out of the other hundreds of (recorded) genocids in history. Which is no surprise, if you take the typical German effectivity, technical skills and their obidience into concern.
It is only important to keep in mind how things like these could happen, how ordinary people could turn into mass murderers, and how things ended, so that at least YOU won't be part of a repetition of that part of history. But please get off your high "How could they???"-horse, because it is very easy to can. I dare to say the 3rd Reich is part of human nature, and everybody has this part in himself, some more, some less. That's totally okay as long as people try to not give in to that dark part of human psychology. It's like men who imagine every sexy woman they see naked or even have phantasies fucking them. It's part of being a (hu)man, but as long as you don't run around raping every pretty girl you see it's perfectly fine. That's why it is allowed to talk about sex and which woman you'd like to fuck. And that's why it should be okay to talk about everything concerning the 3rd Reich.
Finally I just want to add that if there was less of that outrage when someone did something chocolate chip cookie-esque, you would read much less of that bullshit. Because in 99% of all cases people don't have a certain political orientation they want to make public, they just want to offend and provoke. Don't give them that justification.
P.S.: This is not directed only to you, Pepe. You are French, so your reaction is understandable. We are the reason you have so many tree-lined roads in your country, so we could march in the shades. When we first entered France we needed some time to recognize that the 600.000 raised arms were the French army. We asked some of those men who they were, and they always answered "Un collaborateur", which didn't help us a single bit, until one man from the other company, who could speak French, told us it's the French word for "Soldier". And we took away your rifles in perfect condition, never fired, only dropped once. It's a pity that WW2 still didn't change the fact that you still don't know how many French you need to defend Paris, because still it was never tried. :?
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I tried to keep it simple, but I already feared people will compare the content of the comparison, instead of the principle.
There are things people get born with, bad things, which should not be given in. That's killing people, taking nice things you see, raping, and so on. All those things can be of various extends. Of course there is a big difference between imagining a girl naked and actually thinking about how you could rape her. And there is a difference between not liking/avoiding certain ethnicities and planning a genocide.
It's just natural to prefer people who are more like yourself, while being distrustful towards people who seem more "strange". It's ordinary pack behaviour. The important part is, that you must be as aware of your inclination to prefer "your" people over strange people as your inclination to copulate with every woman you like. I don't say people tend to be rapists, but nobody can doubt there is a lot of cheating in our society, and that isn't good either. And an attitude like "Wow, look over there at that pice of butt!" is surely leading more to the assumption that someone will be a cheater than someone who confesses that he doesn't look at other women at all. BUT, as we know we are all human, it is highly unrealistic to expect such a behaviour from somebody. I have a girlfriend myself, and I love her over everything, I would give my life for her, and still I catch myself watching after other girls on a regular basis. But this doesn't mean I will give in and cheat on my girlfriend, because I am aware of both my inclination and the possible results cheating could have.
And the same thing applies for that racist part. I am highly suspicious towards certain ethnicities, because I had my experiences and there are a few other reason, like the average social class which comes into my country, shaping my picture of an ethnicity. The point is: I know that it would be wrong to generalize, that's why I always say to myself "It's only my starting expectation - give everyone the chance to not answer these expectations!", and the fact that I have some friends from those ethnicities tells me, that I am succeeding. And my historical knowledge prevents me of statements like "You should take care of all those....", because I know how wrong it can be, due to that "bad example" I know. It also prevents me of joining anything remotely fascistic, although I know about myself that I am inclined to all groups which are wearing uniforms and represent some kind of unity, offering the warm feeling of being part of a strong community. And a lot of people have this inclination.
That's why I think the purpose of telling the history of the 3rd Reich should be telling the people lessons about what can go wrong and how, and - most important of all - why. This is much more important than building some kind of mystic aura around it, with the purpose of making people feel bad about it without reason. The bad example of the 3rd Reich is supposed to prevent people of repeating the same mistake. Because I have the opinion that this mistake can happen easier than most people would think.
I hope I clarified things a bit. Saying that you'd like to fuck that piece of ass does not mean that you will cheat on your girlfriend, and saying "Look! I am einstein! I have a funny mustache!" does not mean you will go around an cleansing your environment ethnically. Both are human urges, but you can expect most people to not give in those urges, because there are other factors like education, empathy, morale and more, which work against that urge.
Hmmm....yes, I think I see your point. You are clearly a man of few words. :D
Sorry I don't discuss topics like racism/fascism with one-liners to better suit your attention span. Next time I will stick to caveman statements like "Hough! einstein bad!"
I tried to keep it simple, but I already feared people will compare the content of the comparison, instead of the principle.
There are things people get born with, bad things, which should not be given in. That's killing people, taking nice things you see, raping, and so on. All those things can be of various extends. Of course there is a big difference between imagining a girl naked and actually thinking about how you could rape her. And there is a difference between not liking/avoiding certain ethnicities and planning a genocide.
It's just natural to prefer people who are more like yourself, while being distrustful towards people who seem more "strange". It's ordinary pack behaviour. The important part is, that you must be as aware of your inclination to prefer "your" people over strange people as your inclination to copulate with every woman you like. I don't say people tend to be rapists, but nobody can doubt there is a lot of cheating in our society, and that isn't good either. And an attitude like "Wow, look over there at that pice of butt!" is surely leading more to the assumption that someone will be a cheater than someone who confesses that he doesn't look at other women at all. BUT, as we know we are all human, it is highly unrealistic to expect such a behaviour from somebody. I have a girlfriend myself, and I love her over everything, I would give my life for her, and still I catch myself watching after other girls on a regular basis. But this doesn't mean I will give in and cheat on my girlfriend, because I am aware of both my inclination and the possible results cheating could have.
And the same thing applies for that racist part. I am highly suspicious towards certain ethnicities, because I had my experiences and there are a few other reason, like the average social class which comes into my country, shaping my picture of an ethnicity. The point is: I know that it would be wrong to generalize, that's why I always say to myself "It's only my starting expectation - give everyone the chance to not answer these expectations!", and the fact that I have some friends from those ethnicities tells me, that I am succeeding. And my historical knowledge prevents me of statements like "You should take care of all those....", because I know how wrong it can be, due to that "bad example" I know. It also prevents me of joining anything remotely fascistic, although I know about myself that I am inclined to all groups which are wearing uniforms and represent some kind of unity, offering the warm feeling of being part of a strong community. And a lot of people have this inclination.
That's why I think the purpose of telling the history of the 3rd Reich should be telling the people lessons about what can go wrong and how, and - most important of all - why. This is much more important than building some kind of mystic aura around it, with the purpose of making people feel bad about it without reason. The bad example of the 3rd Reich is supposed to prevent people of repeating the same mistake. Because I have the opinion that this mistake can happen easier than most people would think.
I hope I clarified things a bit. Saying that you'd like to fuck that piece of ass does not mean that you will cheat on your girlfriend, and saying "Look! I am einstein! I have a funny mustache!" does not mean you will go around an cleansing your environment ethnically. Both are human urges, but you can expect most people to not give in those urges, because there are other factors like education, empathy, morale and more, which work against that urge.
That kinda proves my point about Zedong. Not even nearly as bad image as einstein. Well I'm not the one who chooses how people's mind work and what gets them offended...
Most people here have 0 emotional link to mao. It's the same when you compare the reaction when you talk about the WW2 nuclear bombs and a similar number of deaths by road accidents.So you say because Mao did his shit in a far far away place (for most of us) it means it is more acceptable for us to joke about him than for example Stalin or einstein? Kinda makes sense but on the other hand is it that much different?
So you say because Mao did his shit in a far far away place (for most of us) it means it is more acceptable for us to joke about him than for example Stalin or einstein? Kinda makes sense but on the other hand is it that much different?
Some of these discussions are just stupid..... And its because the rules do not apply to all.... People get clan names banned like shutzstaffel, kkk, etc.... yet shit like semenstorm and dumb shit like that is still allowed.... Clan banners get banned for no reason other than someone doesn't like the way it looked, and they will tell you "oh it didnt go along with our time period" or whatever, yet afro turkey heads and little sperms are just fine.... same with names you are gonna ban some yet let some slide? Make a clear and definitive definition of what you will and will not allow....
Make a clear and definitive definition of what you will and will not allow....
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Just go on and write it yourself. Let's see if it is easy, or even possible at all.
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Nero ftw
That has to be one of the stupidest responses i have seen.....
Every fucking game on the market has a rule set that defines everything they will and will not allow.....
"If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.
Behavior rules
No offensive behavior anywhere
Remember that this is the internet. Don't be insulted if someone calls you an idiot.
No offensive character names. If in doubt about a name, pick another one."
Its a blanket rule.... nothing in depth about it.
That has to be one of the stupidest responses i have seen.....
Every fucking game on the market has a rule set that defines everything they will and will not allow.....
That has to be one of the stupidest responses i have seen.....
And you still haven't replied properly writing a total and perfect list of rules like Kafein told you to do before claiming it's easy... ...great reply here... :rolleyes:
Every fucking game on the market has a rule set that defines everything they will and will not allow.....
And pretty much every one of them also got a rule that says they can take the game from you at any time for no reason, and that fuck you.(click to show/hide)
And you still haven't replied properly writing a total and perfect list of rules like Kafein told you to do before claiming it's easy... ...great reply here... :rolleyes:
Something tells me Skyline will never try to do it. It's already unlikely he will reply.
Again, stupidity shines through.Exactly, what a grand example of stupidity, believing that the devs should seriously add rules to disable such names as SonOfeinstein and that he is entitled to such rules while it's a free mod and that he doesn't even bother writing an actual suggestion of what to change... ...then he fails to realize the game indeed also have rules and guidelines before common sense even though he posted them earlier...
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1) its not my mod, im not writing rules for people that obviously dont want/need them
The whole point of this before it was derailed be retardation, was that you cannot allow some to get away with names,clans, and banner infractions and punish others for it. It needs to be across the board.
Again, stupidity shines through.
Exactly, what a grand example of stupidity, believing that the devs should seriously add rules to disable such names as SonOfeinstein and that he is entitled to such rules while it's a free mod and that he doesn't even bother writing an actual suggestion of what to change... ...then he fails to realize the game indeed also have rules and guidelines before common sense even though he posted them earlier...
Haha Arathian :D
Had a good laugh xD. Thanks, +1.
Skyline try to learn how to edit your posts instead of posting 3 in a row... Didn't even bother to read them anymore.
I could care less if you read them lol no one gives a shit anyway lolTalking about rules is a bit ironic when you're also clearly breaking forum rules with your triple posting, and then telling Odin, please mute him.
lol no one gives a shit anyway lol
Skyline is right in so far that if you punish one player for having a einstein nickname, you need to punish the other one, too. Things have to stay fair.
The problem is one Skyline himself already mentioned: other games. Other, commercial games have strict rules concerning nicknames and racism and the like, which has its reason in the general attitude of society, that the 3rd Reich has always to be connected with pure drama. Would a publisher/developer decide to not punish racism and the like ingame, the mainstream media would tear them to bits in their articles, about how racism is tolerated by that developer, and a general refusal of the game would be the effect, most likely leading to a financial loss.
Now that players are used to certain rules in games, they would be unsettled by ignored racism in cRPG, and would react similarly to the mainstream media in the example above. Soon the game would have a bad reputation.
That's why I fear we do have to administrate nicknames and chat, although I don't think it's right. In my eyes it's just a matter of neccessity.
And no, I won't write down the rules.
Talking about rules is a bit ironic when you're also clearly breaking forum rules with your triple posting, and then telling Odin, please mute him.
Nice editing your post when you notice he's a mod btw.
if everyone acted like you, the forum would be unreadable. There is an edit button, use it.
einstein is a name not a man.This. also it's has nothing to do with racism if he behaves good and follows cRPG rules.
WHAT DID HE FAILED?Image linking? Duh.
Image linking? Duh.
I'm not wrong. Search it up on State Name searches and phonebook searches. Look for the names einstein, you'll be surprised how many still carry that name.
Also if you say i'm Wrong, make some proof to back it up.
Please show me a list of people named "einstein".
http://wp.superpages.com/people/einsteinBalasubramanian einstein, what a beatiful name.
Balasubramanian einstein, what a beatiful name.
Balasubramanian einstein, what a beatiful name.I also like Cachique einstein. I'm thinking einsteins illegitimate black child :D
The owners say they were unaware of what einstein had done
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Well, try to put this on perspective. Do you know much about the history of India ?
Do you know much about the history of India ?
Was it something about thanksgiving turkey, and now they all own a casino?...
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So if I change my name to "SonOfPepe" will it be seen as offencive?
that is only possible if his mum is a man =)
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This really takes me out of mein kampfert zone
This really takes me out of mein kampfert zoneAhahah lol. Oh wow good one Tzar :mrgreen:
Ahahah lol. Oh wow good one Tzar :mrgreen:
It's sooo heilarious it's simply reichdiculous! :lol:These chocolate chip cookie puns are offensive Ann Frankly, they should be banned.
These chocolate chip cookie puns are offensive Ann Frankly, they should be banned.
so funny this still offends so many people, just get over it ffs