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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: Herr_Thomas on September 20, 2012, 11:08:50 am

Title: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Herr_Thomas on September 20, 2012, 11:08:50 am
  • People will get peasant gear when spawning naked. no more naked peasant genocide

What happened to this? Sounded like a neat feature.
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: [ptx] on September 20, 2012, 11:10:21 am
I've heard it might get implemented later today. Though those might just be rumours.
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Thovex on September 20, 2012, 11:10:42 am
What happened to this? Sounded like a neat feature.

Seems like it was totally abused because of the fact it isn't implented yet.
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Herr_Thomas on September 20, 2012, 11:11:23 am
Seems like it was totally abused because of the fact it isn't implented yet.

Heh. Funny guy.
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: [ptx] on September 20, 2012, 11:15:35 am
I believe it was just implemented, heard that defenders got peasant gear in last village battle.

Also, AI auto-hiring mercs.
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Thovex on September 20, 2012, 11:37:25 am
I believe it was just implemented, heard that defenders got peasant gear in last village battle.

Also, AI auto-hiring mercs.

AI..?
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: [ptx] on September 20, 2012, 11:40:31 am
Mercenaries auto-hired, if roster does not get touched.*
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Vibe on September 20, 2012, 11:40:35 am
AI..?

For when the "owner" or anyone else responsible doesn't hire people for battle, AI will do it

EDIT: fuk u pxt
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: dodnet on September 20, 2012, 12:26:35 pm
For when the "owner" or anyone else responsible doesn't hire people for battle, AI will do it

I hope that not the reason for this problem: http://bundle of sticks-reset/

I don't want the AI fuck with my roster!
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on September 20, 2012, 02:42:07 pm
(click to show/hide)

See Strategus FAQ ;)

Dont know if it is in now. Last info I got is: its not in.
Peasantequipfights last nicht ( coalition one and huron fight ) were equiped by the players not by AI.


EDIT:
Villages DO buy peasant equipment now! just got corrected :)
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 20, 2012, 03:49:01 pm
DO you have to have gold their for the gear or is it just free?
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Bjarky on September 20, 2012, 03:50:56 pm
Mercenaries auto-hired, if roster does not get touched.*
i urge everyone to re-check their rosters, the system seems to have fiddled with them already, even touched those who already where fixed by people in charge, prolly cus they where used by players before the system got set in place, so it didn't register that  :P
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Turboflex on September 20, 2012, 04:11:48 pm
does this apply to field battles too?
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Miwiw on September 20, 2012, 04:23:32 pm
So, why did I buy peasant gear for my army now??  :|
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: oogie on September 20, 2012, 08:25:51 pm
HI Im going to let everyone in on some info for the free gear, For the battle at Faraway Mechin i had got 300 armor 120 lag armor 30 two-handed axe's and just about 150 in other items, I'm letting everyone know that even when i had payed for like 800 gold in gear the fief still got free gear.

this gear was
Arrows+0
Short Bow+0
every color shield +0
I think Practice long swords but i payed for two handed axes so i didnt see anyone using them. and i forgot to look
Felt Hat +0 there was more then just that hat but it had the most armor
pitch forks and scythes +0
rocks+0
and the sickle cudgel and pickaxe +0 for one-hander
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Tanken on September 21, 2012, 12:45:36 am
Thanks for the info Oogie.
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: yashichi on September 21, 2012, 04:09:47 am
does this apply to field battles too?

Can we get an answer to this?
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 21, 2012, 05:49:37 am
I believe it does.
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Gristle on September 21, 2012, 11:53:29 am
Is this supposed to only benefit defenders or what? We attacked with 0 gear and... spawned naked. Enemy was given free equipment as intended.
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Herr_Thomas on September 21, 2012, 12:49:12 pm
Is this supposed to only benefit defenders or what? We attacked with 0 gear and... spawned naked. Enemy was given free equipment as intended.

This seems to be the case.
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: dodnet on September 21, 2012, 01:44:28 pm
Is this supposed to only benefit defenders or what? We attacked with 0 gear and... spawned naked. Enemy was given free equipment as intended.

LOL... what? What do you expect? Win for free?  :lol:
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Herr_Thomas on September 21, 2012, 02:10:58 pm
LOL... what? What do you expect? Win for free?  :lol:

If both sides were to get free gear, it would hardly be a free victory. But I can see reasons for not having it like that. Such as making the attackers actually need to be prepared geared out and not just spamming 100 man armies at their enemy for free
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Gristle on September 21, 2012, 02:11:56 pm
LOL... what? What do you expect? Win for free?  :lol:

No, but that is what defenders got this morning. Why is it ridiculous to think attackers might get free gear, too? What I expect is a fair fight. Why do defenders deserve free gear, but not attackers? Why, then, does anyone deserve free gear?
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: dodnet on September 21, 2012, 02:18:19 pm
There is no need to attack, but you have to defend, if attacked.

And this:
But I can see reasons for not having it like that. Such as making the attackers actually need to be prepared geared out and not just spamming 100 man armies at their enemy for free
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: [ptx] on September 21, 2012, 02:20:13 pm
Because you choose to attack. If you are going to attack someone, you prepare for it, not just get 2 swords and chop down 100 defenseless troops, simply because you've gotten a lucky drop on them. Naked slaughters are dumb and not fun for either side.
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Gristle on September 21, 2012, 03:14:10 pm
Naked slaughters are dumb and not fun for either side.

So you agree attackers should also be given free gear or no one at all?
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: [ptx] on September 21, 2012, 03:16:02 pm
So you agree attackers should also be given free gear or no one at all?
you choose to attack.
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Gristle on September 21, 2012, 05:25:41 pm
We are all choosing to play. Attacking and defending is part of the game. "You chose to attack" almost seems to say we are choosing to be punished for doing so at this stage of the game. I have to prepare my attack, but you don't have to prepare your defense. No one sees a problem with this? Why should the unprepared be given any advantage? What game are we playing here?

You can say there is no need to attack, and to that I'll ask again, what game are we playing here?

Give both sides free gear or take it away.
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: [ptx] on September 21, 2012, 06:26:21 pm
Perhaps you just woke up to strategus and did not see the nonsense that happened for the last few days with everyone attacking everything, getting just a few weapons, since they knew that their enemies wouldn't have any, because they either hadn't gotten to their fiefs yet or had just spawned and didn't have any time to get anything. I will forgive you for that. Now hush.
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 21, 2012, 06:42:27 pm
I don't think it was nonsense...AI was giving fiefs to people when nobody voted on the fief...that is fair game in my mind...just because you're given a fief on the first day of strat, doesn't mean it's yours unless you actually are managing it, and able to defend it.
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Gristle on September 22, 2012, 12:41:45 am
Perhaps you just woke up to strategus and did not see the nonsense that happened for the last few days with everyone attacking everything, getting just a few weapons, since they knew that their enemies wouldn't have any, because they either hadn't gotten to their fiefs yet or had just spawned and didn't have any time to get anything. I will forgive you for that. Now hush.

Hush? Better keep your downvotes coming, because I'm still not satisfied. Let's try again without your condescending bullshit.

I don't care about random stragglers, but it sounds like nothing was really lost or gained, and it does not suggest at all that giving both sides free gear would be anymore unfair than giving one side free gear. I am still waiting for a good reason. Right now it's pretty much impossible to lose a village if you just manage to show up. You get to completely ignore your defenses and you're given better gear than any attacker could afford right now. Why is this a good thing? Why should fief owners have it so easy? I'm not saying attackers should have it easy. I'm simply saying, again, that either both sides or neither side should be given free gear. Both sides should have to fight with the resources they are limited to, or everyone should get something for free. That's fair. If this gear system is not going to be fair, then it should be removed. Currently attackers are catching people off guard (and I mean people with something worth losing), and are being punished for it. It's a bad system. Neither side should be given a free advantage. If you don't properly defend what's yours, you should lose it. You should not be given a handout.

(guarantee someone will ignore my point and instead throw some smilies at my "bullshit" remark)
Title: Re: Spawning with peasant gear instead of butt nekkid
Post by: Bjarky on September 22, 2012, 01:16:33 am
i do agree on that free stuff should be something both sides can leech on, it can actually be a usefull tactic to just buy about enough gear, so u still get your free peasant gear for your fief or small caravans.
bandits or people at war should have the same benefits as the peasants do.