Know what bothers me the most?Yes, we all have got strangeness. And by the way this (+1 hidden) is you.
That you still didn't have the balls to use your real account to post this.
You still hide behind your two irreverent accounts.
Why would anyone take you serious?
Yes, we all have got strangeness. And by the way this (+1 hidden) is you.
You offered him two loomed items worth a total of 4 looms for his +3. But you only paid up 1Yes, i wrote about it before: i started sending him PM`s, apologized, and ask to wait some time untill i get his shield and give it to him. I did it before got banned, and wasnt going to scam at all.. All this PM`s saved, and if i tell lies, please post them..
I see that as fraud.. and a good reason to be banned
Imagine if you were him, and feeling the frustration he must be going through. Not cool. Did you apologize? return the item?
How can we be sure this won't happen again? I think you still have a lot more to say and are holding back
Really, how can one be that dumb to scam theese days?if i use enother account it doesnt means that iam scammer. I always used to communicate with forum this way, and now it means that i used it for scamming..
If you didn`t scam, why do you hide ur main account and
tell different stories ever two posts?
I trust Meow and the admins, they dont ban without justification, else prove me wrong.
If cRPG was your "life" and you have nothing to do after the ban, then why did you risk it all on scamming people for looms?I knew that its easy to detect my ip, find all accounts and ban, I didnt risk because i wasnt going to scam.
Give us his main account name! Scammers don't deserve privacy!Iam not well known player and you obviously didnt know me before.
You still didn't answer, I just want to hear your explanation. Instead of promising him 2 loom points months down the line when you grind them back.. why didn't you just give him his items back? Cancel the trade when it was obvious you didn't have his shield and take your +1 back for his +3?
Just give a good reason for that to show you weren't scamming.
1.He didnt give me a chance. He had to put request on market and i would accept it, but he left after my first pm.
2.Why i didnt offer it back in first pm`s? Becasue i really need it and didnt think that it will go this way. He wanted his shield, i wanted sword, so? I have a bunch of +3 items i dont need. I was going to trade them for shield. Thats why i asked to wait.
3. Obvious for me, that i didnt have a shield was after he accepted trade, thats why i couldnt cancel it..
You know, if you knew the trade was wrong and you wanted to PM him about it, you could have sent him a forum message (which is more likely that he will acually see appear) or you could go to an admin on forums or IRC chat to clear the problem out.Havent heard about forum message before, and didnt think that its serious enough to go to admins..
I dunno, you guys agreed to a deal and you told him to put up the offer for the shield as if you had it. Then you immediately said "lol sorry I traded my shield away, i'll pay you back a few months from now, sorry br0"I immediatelly said: please wait 2 weeks or something. Il get it for you. Dont make ban request on me.
I actually was moronic enough to check all trades that happened on that day and non of them involved a +3 shield of any kind.I dont lie now, i only say what i saw. What about +2? I had 1 lp and was ready to spent it.hah If there is no offers, my eyesight trick me.. goodbuy 2 years, cool
I lie when said that i sold it to someone els, but i didnt want to harm him, my messages prove it. And he was dishonourable when run to admins in first second and didnt try talk to me.
I lie when said that i sold it to someone els, but now i tell only truth. I have been making such trades before so i was going to buy shield for him on market because i really have seen it, and its true. I see this as only one reason why i got permanently banned, and it proves for me, that admins dont do they job properly.
Last word: i dont lie and i wasnt scamming.
Last word: i dont lie and i wasnt scamming.
I dont lie now, i only say what i saw. What about +2? I had 1 lp and was ready to spent it.hah If there is no offers, my eyesight trick me.. goodbuy 2 years, coolIf you had 1lp and a 2+ shield, then accidently sold the 2+ shield while doing your deal with Wiltzu, can you explain to us why you then lied to him about the amount of loompoints you needed to grind in order to pay him?
I was civilized for all this time, always follow all rules. It`s my fate to loose my account after 2 years of fair playing...
I lie when said that i sold it to someone els, but now i tell only truth. I have been making such trades before so i was going to buy shield for him on market because i really have seen it, and its true. I see this as only one reason why i got permanently banned, and it proves for me, that admins dont do they job properly.(click to show/hide)
Edit: now he vote - every my post. You are pathetic.
Last word: i dont lie now and i wasnt scamming.
So what we have got:
1.Wiltzu accepted my offer +1 for +3, but he did it consciously. Maybe we really wanted to make this trade because he owned me 2 lp?
2.Ive got 2 accounts, 3rd comes from neighbour flat. I made a second one for secrecy.
3.There can be multitude ways how i can get shield he requested to fulfil our deal: maybe i saw offer on mrket with it and was going to buy, but then someone els did it before me, maybe my friend promise to give it and then suddenly get disconnected... But admins just permanently banned me without investigation, nice.
4.And even if i am so retarded and desided to get 2 lp for free, while i know that he get on IRC same sec, admins detect my IP and ban all accounts, perma ban is too cruel, for killing thousands hours of my life.
Well, all of this is nothing compared to this: After we had a deal, I WANTED TO GIVE HIM HIS ITEM BACK, I SENT LIKE 3 PMs, but he was already talking to admins on IRC...
Also in your first unban request Kalp said you were offering him a shady deal as well, maybe we can get some info on that.Unfortunately I delete those messages, but it was quite similar story as Wiltzu. He want my +3 cased greaves and offer +3 mail chausses and +1 warhammer which he didn't need... I put offer stones for +1 warhammer and I wrote that after he accept it I will put offer boots for boots. Then he started to quibble and wanted from me to accept offer +1 warhammer for +3 cased greaves. At this point I knew that something is wrong. I didn't report this, because I never had situation like this.
Unfortunately I delete those messages, but it was quite similar story as Wiltzu. He want my +3 cased greaves and offer +3 mail chausses and +1 warhammer which he didn't need... I put offer stones for +1 warhammer and I wrote that after he accept it I will put offer boots for boots. Then he started to quibble and wanted from me to accept offer +1 warhammer for +3 cased greaves. At this point I knew that something is wrong. I didn't report this, because I never had situation like this.
You know... I by now put about two hours of my life just into checking out stuff you said and you keep telling me I don't even read your posts?I didnt say that, i say it about other people but about you i said: thanks admins for spending their time, to help someone.
You lied about accepting the wrong trade, not only to him but also to me when you were still trying to get unbanned and I was checking it out.I lied, but still it doesnt means that i was scamming.
You lied about only having two of those three accounts and the third one belonging to your neighbor. (Multiaccounting in itself being a bannable offense)
You lied about "always" using your second accounts to communicate on the forum, one account (the one you pulled this crap with) was created two days before you did it,
the other one two month before that which is a pretty short time considering you are played for two years now...
According to Wiltzu you did not reply to him for hours until you found out all your accounts were banned, then you sent him and me the last PM and started PMing me about the ban.Now he lie, because i sent him 2 or 3 PM`s in first 2 mins after deal. He didnt respond to answer. You said that admins can see all messages. He didnt reply, not me. Time when message was sent have to be saved.
Unfortunately I delete those messages, but it was quite similar story as Wiltzu. He want my +3 cased greaves and offer +3 mail chausses and +1 warhammer which he didn't need... I put offer stones for +1 warhammer and I wrote that after he accept it I will put offer boots for boots. Then he started to quibble and wanted from me to accept offer +1 warhammer for +3 cased greaves. At this point I knew that something is wrong. I didn't report this, because I never had situation like this.Lol, this is really impertinently to say such things. You didnt answer me, i didnt sent you such messages.
Can we put this behind us already ? This guy is clearly delusional and not remorseful about what he did. He's only sorry he was caught.Why do i have to remorseful about what i did, if i still think that all this story is accidentally, and there was no moment in my life, when i thought about scamming, but my lies makes me hated by everybody and means that iam scammer. Iam not going to lie that i remorse only to get unbanned, that would prove that iam real scammer, but iam not.
Only thing that i remorseful about is my 2 years lost and gear, which was given to me by my friend (not according to this 3 accounts), to use for a while. He dont involved in that all, and i cant even give them back. I lie again? Check out trades. And in view of that he entrusted me 4 Mws, while he dont even know my forum name, we know each other only for few months and live in different countries- please give him all my other looms, reward him, and that will convince me that this 2 years wasnt useless.. - that is my last will
You cant live without insults, and stupid jokes. You are obviouly a little child my friend. I think admins know better if i lie now or not. 4 Mws accepted in exchange for 20 gold i hope dont mean that i used super scam tactics
Seriously you fuckface, didn`t your parents tell you something about honesty?
Going around confrontation and telling bullshit wont get you further, just
be honest one time in your life...
You cant live without insults, and stupid jokes. You are obviouly a little child my friend. I think admins know better if i lie now or not. 4 Mws accepted in exchange for 20 gold i hope dont mean that i used super scam tactics
No, you just swapped looms from one of your over 9000 accounts to your main account.Dont find interesting to continue talk to you. I dont want to call the name of my friend, hope he havent seen this shame yet, but he is well known on forum, and iam obviouly not him. Or that means that i play on 2 account at the same time in different countries lol.
Dont think everyone is dumb here, I hope u`ll be honest one day,
this is just poor.
Telling one guy that he can`t live without insults and than insulting him is a nice move btw :lol:
You`re actually joking alot here, even if it`s not your intention.
Deal with it man, your terrible attemt to scam and all the bullshit afterwards just failed.
You see Knight of the death....or whatever. Even if by some magical miracle of Jesus you manage to prove you were not scamming, you still admitted like 15th time how you have 3 accounts and how your first version had many lies. That is still ban forever. So I dont even understand why you trying so hard to prove anything further. Are you litterally insulting the intelligence of this community? :rolleyes:Iam not trying to prove something anymore, i only want to give items back and let my looms live on another account, which iam not related to.
Dont find interesting to continue talk to you. I dont want to call the name of my friend, hope he havent seen this shame yet, but he is well known on forum, and iam obviouly not him. Or that means that i play on 2 account at the same time in different countries lol.
Dont find interesting to continue talk to you. I dont want to call the name of my friend, hope he havent seen this shame yet, but he is well known on forum, and iam obviouly not him. Or that means that i play on 2 account at the same time in different countries lol.
IMO he's not active on the forums. And he's away from c-rpg atm.Wiltzu. please go away. You did all what you want, so why you still spend your time voting each my post "-"?
The part about the 4 MW items is actually true, the guy he got them from first gave them to someone else to use, then requested them back and traded them to this guy.My oh, my.
Usually I do not move any items from global banned accounts so can't say yet how this will work out, have your friend contact me so I can talk to him.
Well you scammed me, you used multiaccounting and you're calling me a liar plus you're a liar (a terrible one). You're trying to get unbanned and I'm trying to keep you banned, though you're not going to be unbanned whether I try to keep you banned or not.Wiltzu iam tired of talking to you.
Wiltzu iam tired of talking to you.When you realized you couldn't give him what you agreed on, why wasn't your first reaction to offer him his stuff back?
When did i sent you PM`s with plea to wait some time(not like few months good buy bro) and not banning me? I did it before i got banned, next min after deal. You say complete opposit, but no, no, you dont lie...
Wiltzu iam tired of talking to you.
When did i sent you PM`s with plea to wait some time(not like few months good buy bro) and not banning me? I did it before i got banned, next min after deal. You say complete opposit, but no, no, you dont lie...
Lol, this is really impertinently to say such things. You didnt answer me, i didnt sent you such messages.And now you sitill lying. Enjoy your ban :*
Yeah, who will believe to? Outlaw with 10+ infarmy, or to you?
When you realized you couldn't give him what you agreed on, why wasn't your first reaction to offer him his stuff back?Why do i have post the same for the 3rd time? I need it, he didnt, i was sure, that this is not gonna cause this, and was ready to give him shield when i buy it.
And now you sitill lying. Enjoy your ban :*...
Cant believe this...i spent 4 days telling people what happened. Iam tired, sorry dude, and i see you dont believe me too, i guess its to the good.
I mean i would never lend someone stuff if i didnt know him good and i only lend him mine because he lend me some of his stuff some time earlier...
Im still not sure if i shall believe this :mad:
Knight_of_the_Death ever got the idea to tell me whats fucking happening?
Why do i have post the same for the 3rd time? I need it, he didnt, i was sure, that this is not gonna cause this, and was ready to give him shield when i buy it....i spent 4 days telling people what happened. Iam tired, sorry dude, and i see you dont believe me too, i guess its to the good.
Everybody please just leave me now. I was punished enough. Close this essay, please.
Its not about believing or not just the fact that you didnt tell me that you char with my items is banned :rolleyes:I told you in pm. I hoped that can achieve unban.. eh. Dint want to disgrace myself and give your items back when all is over. Thats why i didnt mentioned your name.
I just dont see why you didnt tell me earlier you just made things worse...
I told you in pm. I hoped that can achieve unban.. eh. Dint want to disgrace myself and give your items back when all is over. Thats why i didnt mentioned your name.lol well didnt work out eh :D?
lol well didnt work out eh :D?Thank you for forgiving me.
Its just i found it out like this:
"Oh hey btw these 4 items you lend this guy you know hes globally banned and theres a thread for several days about this
you should probably talk to meow to clear things up"
Can you imagine how i felt in this moment?
i felt betrayed
I see that you are sry but i juuuuuuust cant understand why you didnt contact me ...
First it made you look even more suspious and secondly you should have expected that i wont be happy if whoever would tell me whats going on.
I fear its to late for you to get mercy from admins ...
Also it wasnt nice from everyone to harass you
But if you didnt try to scam wilzu and if you didnt try to steal my stuff then know that i forgive you.
Good luck
And now i got permanently banned. All what you think about is saving your gear.
I see you as a friend in crpg not as a brother :wink:
But im sry for you if you really didnt intend to scam its not fair
but enough of this lets remember eachother as friends :D
Edit:Loosing all of your stuff is kinda like beeing permabanned :|
perhaps the reason was "you're an asshole"Kid, why do you insult me? did i insulted you? How did you even became an admin? Put 5 years instead of N/A in your profile.
perhaps the reason was "you're an asshole"Kid, why do you insult me? did i insulted you? How did you even became an admin? Put 5 years instead of N/A in your profile.
NOONE FUCKS WITH THE CHAIRMAN, MOTHERFUCKERLOL, that is what most cRPG players looks like. Little retarded kids.. And you play with that inadequate waste, who post this shit instead of telling his opinion.
BURN THIS SCAMMING FUCK ON A STAKE
LICK THE FLOOR LITTLE BITCH
lol you mad, russian boy? why you harrasing me via PM's nowno, you was on this page for so long time, but didnt post nothing, i only wanted to see some more your retarded post, wasnt harrasing you, or post my pm lol.
If this is the end of the story for you it`s just.. meh :/Like how do you mean this?
Like how do you mean this?Thanks for helping me man, but i had 17 MWs at all (including your stuff), now i have 7 MW.
Do you want me to insult him like enough people already did?
I dont know how you think about this whole thing, but imagine he is really innocent and got permabanned for failing extremely in trading (maybe he tried to make a very profitable deal :D) and for trieing to cover up everything which i dont see why he tried to because in the end he will have to tell the whole truth anyway.
Oh and about "your" gear mr death it has just returned to its original owner so no reason to be upset :D
There are a lot people who made much more trouble in this mod and got a second chance also he is a very good player and it would be a shame if he would stay banned...
What does it matter how many MW's you got? You're permabanned anyway.Ah, yeah, so its not forbidden for admins to steal gear from banned accounts?
So someone may get 6 MW`s in 1 day, while you spent 6 months to get them.
You still like it? is it fair?
Ah, yeah, so its not forbidden for admins to steal gear from banned accounts?
I cant say with 100% that he really did it, i wait for explanation.
But its the fact: 6 +3 items disappeared, exectly 6 the most valuable items.
So someone may get 6 MW`s in 1 day, while you spent 6 months to get them.
You still like it? is it fair?
I find it really hilarious that you, a massive scammer, preach on how it's unfair for someone to get free MW's in a day.Massive?
Like how do you mean this?
Do you want me to insult him like enough people already did?
I dont know how you think about this whole thing, but imagine he is really innocent and got permabanned for failing extremely in trading (maybe he tried to make a very profitable deal :D) and for trieing to cover up everything which i dont see why he tried to because in the end he will have to tell the whole truth anyway.
Oh and about "your" gear mr death it has just returned to its original owner so no reason to be upset :D
There are a lot people who made much more trouble in this mod and got a second chance also he is a very good player and it would be a shame if he would stay banned...
I find it really hilarious that you, a massive scammer, preach on how it's unfair for someone to get free MW's in a day.Massive scammer..
Stop making it worse and worse for you...I dont blame someone, moreover i know that there are a lot of very good, honorable and honest admins and players too. If someone will not ignore my question and answer, i will apologize.
And please guys stop provoking him :rolleyes:
Massive?just that i didnt loose them and got them back
I just meant that it would`ve fuckin shameful if you would have lost ur 4 MW`s due to his fault/misunderstatement.
just that i didnt loose them and got them back
So its kinda done for me ye :D
Thanks for helping me man, but i had 17 MWs at all (including your stuff), now i have 7 MW.
So what we have: 4 of them was yours, and after giving back your items i still have 13.. but there are only 7 now! i lost 2 body armors 1pole and also 1 head armor 1twoh and something els i dont remember( not yours).
Are you fucking kidding me?Yes, its obvious and iam not blind, i lost 2 rare body armor, 1 very rare head armor, awlpike and some of light gloves, rare too and something els i cant even remember.
You had exactly the same items you had when you pulled the stuff when I checked your char yesterday.
Take a look at your alts and collect your heirlooms from them or something, they are all over the place.
I will now go ahead and check every single of your chars' trades on all three accounts and if there was not trade since you were banned I will lock this thread and you are done.
The only way any item could disappear from your acc while you are global banned would be one of the devs who got that power transferring one of your chars to his acc and then transfer the item.
Since I am sure that did not happen I will just assume you are trying to get more out of this once again...
Checking now, better be quick in case you are just blind.
I used my magic fairy powers to sneak into the database and haxxor some of the looms to myself. Go me!No need for clowns now.
Ban all devs thats the only solutionyeah, lol.
Yes, its obvious and iam not blind, i lost 2 rare body armor, 1 very rare head armor, awlpike and some of light gloves, rare too and something els i cant even remember.
Yes, now i see how fair is policy in cRPG. You had all chances to get this items and now lie. You offered a way how you can hide this trade, cool. Well it maybe not you but one of devs DID IT.