cRPG
Off Topic => General Off Topic => Topic started by: Teeth on September 16, 2012, 12:44:10 pm
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I want to be able to capture crpg gameplay, but I can''t really. I tried with fraps and on lowest settings ingame, half size and 30 fps it's still somewhat choppy. Does anyone have any tips to optimize fraps performance or some other software to capture gameplay?
These are my computer specs:
ATI Radeon HD 5870
Intel Core i5 750
8 gigs of RAM
It's not state of the art, but it's not that bad either. Do you really just need a NASA computer to capture shit or is there some performance to be gained by tweaking?
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I heard fraps is maybe not the right choice if you want low impact.
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Not sure if I'm right but I think recording with 30fps reduces your fps in-game too. Have you tried recording with higher numbers, say 60 fps? Sure takes a lot a of hdd space uncompressed though.
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Fraps will lock your FPS in game to whatever you're recording at. To increase framerate, you have to increase the rate it records at.
This does increase filesize, but it also allows for slow-motion shots, if you're so inclined.
Conclusion: Record at a higher FPS for better results.
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save it to a different disc then fraps is on
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save it to a different disc then fraps is on
Just have one harddrive. Or do you mean a different partition? Like Fraps being on C: and saving on D:?
Fraps will lock your FPS in game to whatever you're recording at. To increase framerate, you have to increase the rate it records at.
This does increase filesize, but it also allows for slow-motion shots, if you're so inclined.
Conclusion: Record at a higher FPS for better results.
The problem is performance while recording, doubt recording with higher FPS will reduce the strain on my computer.
I heard fraps is maybe not the right choice if you want low impact.
Did you happen to hear about any alternatives? Still, loads of people that record gameplay use fraps and even record in HD and with a much smoother framerate. Do they all just have 2000 euro computers or something?
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The problem is performance while recording, doubt recording with higher FPS will reduce the strain on my computer.
Check that Fraps is using all available CPU cores (ctrl+alt+delete, right click fraps.exe, check associated cores - or something like that). If it already is, then the only solution is to get a better computer.
Did you happen to hear about any alternatives? Still, loads of people that record gameplay use fraps and even record in HD and with a much smoother framerate. Do they all just have 2000 euro computers or something?
Thread on this subject. (http://forum.meleegaming.com/general-off-topic/best-screen-recorders/)
Also, try defragging your harddrive, sometimes that helps with Fraps recording speeds. Although don't hold out much hope for that one.
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Use the much superior Playclaw (http://www.playclaw.com/) instead.
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You say superior - for me, playclaw creates corrupt videos after 4GB file size.
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I want to be able to capture crpg gameplay, but I can''t really. I tried with fraps and on lowest settings ingame, half size and 30 fps it's still somewhat choppy. Does anyone have any tips to optimize fraps performance or some other software to capture gameplay?
These are my computer specs:
ATI Radeon HD 5870
Intel Core i5 750
8 gigs of RAM
It's not state of the art, but it's not that bad either. Do you really just need a NASA computer to capture shit or is there some performance to be gained by tweaking?
Funny enough, I have pretty much the same specs as you and recorded my vid with fraps at about 35 fps (I think) without problems.
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Set 30 fps in FRAPS - Uncheck "Lock framerate".
Use a different partition then m&b is on.
Fraps doesnt lock your fps necesserily. Uncheck "lock framerate" and you ll just get double the fps ingame your video is supposed to be at.
So video 30, ingame you get your 60.
If that doesnt help, forget about Fraps.
Your harddrive is not able to write the necessary data ( i assume)
1080 p @ 60 fps is over 400mb p second. // half of it for 30 fps.
Without an SSD this is pretty much impossbru (since you only have 1 hdd)
And yes, Playclaw can be a great alternative ;-).
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Funny enough, I have pretty much the same specs as you and recorded my vid with fraps at about 35 fps (I think) without problems.
wat, you have an ssd or second harddrive?
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wat, you have an ssd or second harddrive?
a normal (eg no fast speed or something) harddrive
HD Radeon 5870
i5 760 @ 2.8 ghz
8 gig RAM
Could just be the processor? But I doubt it. I mean I wasn't getting perfect fps, eg it did stutter a bit, but it was playable.
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I tried recording the other day using fraps and it was fucking terrible. My C-rpg runs on my solid state hard drive (c: drive) and my recording was going to my E: drive. I have a basically brand new computer, and even trying to play at 60fps (which locked my in game to 60fps) was fucking retarded, I couldn't play for shit. I normally play with 200+ fps in game, so that may be it, but I used to play games back in the day with 60fps and it wasn't hard to play at all. With Fraps it was laggy as shit on 30 or 60 fps. If you try to customize it, the highest it lets you go is still 60fps.
So tonight I'm going to experiment with another program I found online...but it's possible that I just need to retry Fraps using half video size or something? I play in 1280x1024 on pretty high settings normally.
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a normal (eg no fast speed or something) harddrive
HD Radeon 5870
i5 760 @ 2.8 ghz
8 gig RAM
Could just be the processor? But I doubt it. I mean I wasn't getting perfect fps, eg it did stutter a bit, but it was playable.
I looked at your vid and it was in HD aswell. I don't even get a fluid recording at halfsize with lower ingame settings. Perhaps I just have a crap harddrive, don't think the slightly better processor would make that much of a difference.
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LoL.
You guys cant record in native 720p resolution?
The presented rigs should be enough for 720 p atleast.
Thats very strange, akward even.
Something must be all wrong.
Halfsize is not an option.
Even @ 1080p halfsize looks like a 360 p youtube vid, reuploaded after it was filmed of the screen with an old phone.
ANYWAYS- TRY PLAYCLAW FOR GODS SAKE-
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Playclaw works amazing, recording at fullHD like a baws on a five year old PC.
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I belive the problem is that he is running Warband and Fraps from the same disk/partition. Will also try Playclaw, need something that doesn't use too much CPU.
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I belive the problem is that he is running Warband and Fraps from the same disk/partition. Will also try Playclaw, need something that doesn't use too much CPU.
Yeah the problem with Fraps is that like....a short piece of footage (an example) of 1 minute 26 seconds can be a file of around 2,8 Gigs (at 1080p at 60fps). So yeah, that takes quite a bit of processing.
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I belive the problem is that he is running Warband and Fraps from the same disk/partition. Will also try Playclaw, need something that doesn't use too much CPU.
So wait, installing Fraps on D and saving on D would help, with Warband being on C?
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So wait, installing Fraps on D and saving on D would help, with Warband being on C?
It reduces the strain on my pc a bit when recording. IF those are two different harddisks and not a different partition.
For example my H: is my external HD on wich i record.
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It reduces the strain on my pc a bit when recording. IF those are two different harddisks and not a different partition.
For example my H: is my external HD on wich i record.
Nah, just different partitions, it never made sense to me why a different partition would reduce strain anyway.
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I've tested the separate HDD theory and found that for me at least, it's balony. Never made one iota of difference to me.
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there's also bandicam, never tried it myself but many people say it's good.
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MSI Afterburner is the shiz. Generates almost zero lag for me :)
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With the advent of WSE I gave recording gameplay another shot. I installed PlayClaw 3 and the results are much better, being able to record watchable footage, a lolspear video would fare well by 60 fps though instead of 30. With my PC specs in the OP, does anyone happen to have any advice on settings inside the program for maximizing performance? If its necessary I'll look up my harddrive specs, I have only one harddrive.
For example:
Prerecording and prerecording buffer size, is that any use?
Compression threads, is that the number of cpu cores used for compression? With a quad core and Warband running what should this number be?
Should I get PlayClaw 4?
My usual ingame fps is 123, should I change that to my recording fps or does it change automatically?
Which encoder and encoder quality?
Should I lock fps?
Then the issue of one harddrive with 2 partitions, should I install PlayClaw and record to a different partition or is it no use?
Or if you have tried different recording programs and are sure one of em is the best, please do tell. Feel free to also add recommended settings.
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With the advent of WSE I gave recording gameplay another shot. I installed PlayClaw 3 and the results are much better, being able to record watchable footage, a lolspear video would fare well by 60 fps though instead of 30. With my PC specs in the OP, does anyone happen to have any advice on settings inside the program for maximizing performance? If its necessary I'll look up my harddrive specs, I have only one harddrive.
For example:
Prerecording and prerecording buffer size, is that any use?
Compression threads, is that the number of cpu cores used for compression? With a quad core and Warband running what should this number be?
Should I get PlayClaw 4?
My usual ingame fps is 123, should I change that to my recording fps or does it change automatically?
Which encoder and encoder quality?
Should I lock fps?
Then the issue of one harddrive with 2 partitions, should I install PlayClaw and record to a different partition or is it no use?
Or if you have tried different recording programs and are sure one of em is the best, please do tell. Feel free to also add recommended settings.
About compression threads : depends on what is your system load. For a quad CPU I'd say start with 8 threads and see what happens. If your CPU usage is too high even your windows explorer will start to stutter (and I'm not even talking about Warband). As long as you get lag, decrease. But I wouldn't go below 4.
My gut feeling is that if you can get 120 FPS ingame, you should try recording at 60 (any higher will be of no use to your viewers and will go nom nom nom on your disk space).
As long as you are using the same HD, you will be bottlenecked by the same bus so it won't improve much.
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I thought a quad core had only 4 threads?
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I thought a quad core had only 4 threads?
quad core has 4 cores, the number of threads varies
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I thought a quad core had only 4 threads?
A quad core CPU has 4 process contexts and can execute 4 threads simultaneously (aka true paralellism).
However, there are hundreds of threads running in semi-paralellism on your PC (even when it is seemingly idle). That is, they take turns to use the cores.
The ideal number of threads you need to make an application run as efficiently as possible depends on the nature of those threads. Threads that access your devices (such as HD) a lot (I/O bound threads) will often be blocked by those accesses and when they are blocked another thread can take their turn for the CPU. So you can usually have a lot of I/O bound threads around. CP bound threads do not use devices much but require computing power (extreme examples are like prime numbers search algorithms, which are often used as a testbed for CPUs), so they will use as much CPU as they can and you will quickly reach 100% CPU usage if you have a lot of them working.
I think compression threads are highly CP bound but anyway it's best to try different settings.