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Title: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: WhiteAndMilky on September 16, 2012, 09:33:28 am
Just been messing around with this sword today, I like it. It seems one of the most popular builds is 18/21.

But how would it be with another 3 agi and 1 ath slapped on? Proposed build:

Strength: 18
Agility: 24
Hit points: 53

Skills to attributes: 14

Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 0
Athletics: 8
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 3

One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 133
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Obviously you wouldn't be able to take hits, but that would be the point hopefully. Gonna test it on my stf as soon as I can get a flamberge on there.
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: Cyclopsided on September 16, 2012, 10:04:38 am
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is it viable?
Terrifyingly so.
With a bit of footwork abusing you can top the charts of battle by just right swinging. One of my most fun 2h STF characters was this.
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: WhiteAndMilky on September 16, 2012, 10:54:19 am
Terrifyingly so.
With a bit of footwork abusing you can top the charts of battle by just right swinging. One of my most fun 2h STF characters was this.

Nice! With this same exact setup? What kind of armor were you sporting?
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: TurmoilTom on September 16, 2012, 04:36:40 pm
I rolled a slight variation of this build a while back. I loved it so much I carried it to level 32. I had one shield skill and converted the other 2 skill points into an attribute point. By level 32 I had an 18/27 build rolling with 9 athletics.

I used a Flamberge, Black Lamellar Vest, Light Strange Greaves, Mail Gauntlets and no helmet for style points.

The awesome part of this build is that you're effectively immune to groups of enemies and cavalry if you can see them coming. It's even easier to kill cavalry now than it was for me because of horses' leg damage bonus. The only thing to really worry about is tight spaces and ranged.
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: WhiteAndMilky on September 17, 2012, 02:20:58 am
I rolled a slight variation of this build a while back. I loved it so much I carried it to level 32. I had one shield skill and converted the other 2 skill points into an attribute point. By level 32 I had an 18/27 build rolling with 9 athletics.

I used a Flamberge, Black Lamellar Vest, Light Strange Greaves, Mail Gauntlets and no helmet for style points.

The awesome part of this build is that you're effectively immune to groups of enemies and cavalry if you can see them coming. It's even easier to kill cavalry now than it was for me because of horses' leg damage bonus. The only thing to really worry about is tight spaces and ranged.


So a level 30 like this?

Strength: 18
Agility: 25
Hit points: 53

Skills to attributes: 16

Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 0
Athletics: 8
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 1

One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 119
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

And then level 32 something like this?

Strength: 18
Agility: 27
Hit points: 53

Skills to attributes: 16

Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 0
Athletics: 9
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 2

One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 129
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: GuiKa on September 17, 2012, 02:33:20 am
Just been messing around with this sword today, I like it. It seems one of the most popular builds is 18/21.

But how would it be with another 3 agi and 1 ath slapped on? Proposed build:

Strength: 18
Agility: 24
Hit points: 53

Skills to attributes: 14

Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 0
Athletics: 8
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 3

One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 133
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Obviously you wouldn't be able to take hits, but that would be the point hopefully. Gonna test it on my stf as soon as I can get a flamberge on there.

You can try the same thing with a long maul too, it's fun.
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: TurmoilTom on September 17, 2012, 03:22:23 am
So a level 30 like this?

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And then level 32 something like this?

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Yeah, kinda. I had one point in shield that I used rarely (lol) on my level 30 build, and I ended up not using my extra skill point on the level 32 build so I could convert for another attribute point into agility if I hit level 33. The idea was that if I carried the build to level 34 I would have 10 athletics, but I never quite got there, heh.
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: WhiteAndMilky on September 17, 2012, 03:41:16 am
Yeah, kinda. I had one point in shield that I used rarely (lol) on my level 30 build, and I ended up not using my extra skill point on the level 32 build so I could convert for another attribute point into agility if I hit level 33. The idea was that if I carried the build to level 34 I would have 10 athletics, but I never quite got there, heh.

Was the flamberge sheathable at one point? why did you have the shield point?

I'd love to know some of your other high agility builds you have tried, as it seems we have made more than a few similar ones so far.
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: TurmoilTom on September 17, 2012, 04:11:40 am
Was the flamberge sheathable at one point? why did you have the shield point?

I'd love to know some of your other high agility builds you have tried, as it seems we have made more than a few similar ones so far.

The Flammy was indeed at one point sheathable, if I recall correctly, but not at the time I used this build. At times, I would get bored of the Flammy and use a Greatsword instead, and at those times it wouldn't hurt to use a shield. It just felt more useful than less than 1% of damage or 2 hp.

As for other agility builds, I've also done a 12/27 dedicated thrower STF, 9/30 katana build STF, 15/27 greatsword STF, 15/27 bec de corbin STF and if I can scrounge up the free time I'm planning on trying out a 3/39 build with my Elder's Practice Longsword. See if blunt damage is really THAT GOOD.
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: Taser on September 18, 2012, 12:03:35 am
The Flammy was indeed at one point sheathable, if I recall correctly, but not at the time I used this build. At times, I would get bored of the Flammy and use a Greatsword instead, and at those times it wouldn't hurt to use a shield. It just felt more useful than less than 1% of damage or 2 hp.

As for other agility builds, I've also done a 12/27 dedicated thrower STF, 9/30 katana build STF, 15/27 greatsword STF, 15/27 bec de corbin STF and if I can scrounge up the free time I'm planning on trying out a 3/39 build with my Elder's Practice Longsword. See if blunt damage is really THAT GOOD.


Have fun. I've been toying with the idea of making an alt with 0 ps but using a longsword or something and seeing how it does.

But an elder's practice sword is nice. How does it look with the loom pack?
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: Teeth on September 18, 2012, 01:02:02 am
The Flammy was indeed at one point sheathable, if I recall correctly, but not at the time I used this build. At times, I would get bored of the Flammy and use a Greatsword instead, and at those times it wouldn't hurt to use a shield. It just felt more useful than less than 1% of damage or 2 hp.

As for other agility builds, I've also done a 12/27 dedicated thrower STF, 9/30 katana build STF, 15/27 greatsword STF, 15/27 bec de corbin STF and if I can scrounge up the free time I'm planning on trying out a 3/39 build with my Elder's Practice Longsword. See if blunt damage is really THAT GOOD.

Stop trying to look special, use black text and normal font like the rest.
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 18, 2012, 01:48:52 am
Stop trying to look special, use black text and normal font like the rest.

What are you, some sort of commie who is producing factory drones for the industrial age? TurmoilTom does not have to look special, he is special, a god damned unique and colorful butterfly who you are trying to quash of all individuality and self-expression.
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: isatis on September 18, 2012, 02:28:03 am
tsk tsk tsk tsk sgt... it's not because you hate pink that you need to channel your hate on the poor tom...

keep on flying butterfl tom!!

on topic : flammy good with agi  mw flammy (made it alllll myself) owner speaking (tried 18/18, 21/15,  42/3 and 18/21 still think the best would be even more speed! so 18/24 will sure be good, even if 18/21 is more ''normal'' but expect some suprise for a soooo fast flammy user!
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: Tyr_ on September 18, 2012, 03:07:58 am
18/24 is a decent flamberg build at a higher level, i tried it myself using a quite heavy armor (shynbaulds&rus scale), but i maxed out WM (thanks to high lvl^^), very useful if you want to hunt down archers while wearing plate armor. You dont need IF if you compensate it with your armor, but if you want to got for high level I would suggest you the build i have atm, which is much more powerful, but you need to reach 33 for it

Strength: 21
Agility: 24
Hit points: 56
Skills to attributes: 14
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 0
Athletics: 8
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 5

On lvl 34 get yourself 8 WM
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: TurmoilTom on September 18, 2012, 05:27:22 am
Have fun. I've been toying with the idea of making an alt with 0 ps but using a longsword or something and seeing how it does.

But an elder's practice sword is nice. How does it look with the loom pack?

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Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on September 18, 2012, 09:58:40 am
Scary build, but ranged will be a pain with no IF and only 18 str..
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: WhiteAndMilky on September 18, 2012, 03:57:23 pm
18/24 is a decent flamberg build at a higher level, i tried it myself using a quite heavy armor (shynbaulds&rus scale), but i maxed out WM (thanks to high lvl^^), very useful if you want to hunt down archers while wearing plate armor. You dont need IF if you compensate it with your armor, but if you want to got for high level I would suggest you the build i have atm, which is much more powerful, but you need to reach 33 for it

Strength: 21
Agility: 24
Hit points: 56
Skills to attributes: 14
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 0
Athletics: 8
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 5

On lvl 34 get yourself 8 WM

Well I don't retire, I just make alts. So higher levels is possible. But if I were to get to 33 with it, I'd be more inclined to get even MORE ath! Like 18/27. Why would you choose the STR over more AGI and ath?
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: Tyr_ on September 18, 2012, 04:34:05 pm
8 to 9 ath rly doesnt matter that much, but with 7 PS you will get lots of onehits with a flamberge, more health and you can use heavy armor with less penalty, without IF its best to get heavy gauntlets and sth like rus scale armor.
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: Cyclopsided on September 18, 2012, 06:17:03 pm
It matters, keep stacking the advantage and play it for all it's worth.
I would go more and more agi as a flamberg myself.
Title: Re: Flamberge 18/24 viability?
Post by: Taser on September 19, 2012, 12:45:50 am
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