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Title: More Hitpoints or armor for horse.
Post by: Kawint on September 14, 2012, 07:19:02 pm: In battle, when I used my rouncey... he's dead 20 seconds after because 3 arrows hurt him.It's very unbalanced and not fair for cavman because we can't charge enemy with light horse. So i suggest to add more hitpoints or armor for the horses like rouncey, steppe horse, desert horse, palfrey, courser and arabian horse.
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Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 14, 2012, 07:23:11 pm: -1'd
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Post by: Zerran on September 14, 2012, 08:36:12 pm: So... you can't use a light horse... as a heavy horse... Ya, that seems like a problem. :lol:
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Post by: Nightingale on September 14, 2012, 08:37:57 pm: Quote from: Kawint on September 14, 2012, 07:19:02 pm
In battle, when I used my rouncey... he's dead 20 seconds after because 3 arrows hurt him.It's very unbalanced and not fair for cavman because we can't charge enemy with light horse. So i suggest to add more hitpoints or armor for the horses like rouncey, steppe horse, desert horse, palfrey, courser and arabian horse.

Its already pretty sad that most Horse can survive 100 P damage to the face

No to more HP, take away their HP imo.... but then again my opinion never matters I am just a silly xbow'er. :rolleyes:
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Title: Re: More Hitpoints or armor for horse.
Post by: Kawint on September 14, 2012, 08:40:46 pm: No. I just want to say that 3 arrows can kill the horse. Just 3 arrows.
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Post by: rustyspoon on September 14, 2012, 08:42:34 pm: Quote from: Kawint on September 14, 2012, 08:40:46 pm
No. I just want to say that 3 arrows can kill the horse. Just 3 arrows.

3 arrows? I take it you've never ridden an Arabian Warhorse. :lol:
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Post by: Rextard on September 14, 2012, 08:46:19 pm: I disagree mostly, but I do think the horses could use some shin guards. Not the crappy plastic soccer kind either.
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Post by: Kafein on September 14, 2012, 09:11:29 pm: Quote from: rustyspoon on September 14, 2012, 08:42:34 pm
3 arrows? I take it you've never ridden an Arabian Warhorse. :lol:

That's 2 body shots.

Armored horses aren't much better btw, as for some kind of antirealism reason, arrows almost ignore armor.
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Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 14, 2012, 09:12:46 pm: Well, it's a rouncey. A lovely horse, really, if used correctly as a light one. You need to hang back a bit and only engage when there are distractions, and learn how to become an unpredictable horse.
Quote from: Kafein on September 14, 2012, 09:11:29 pm
Armored horses aren't much better btw, as for some kind of antirealism reason, arrows almost ignore armor.

Speed bonus mainly to blame coupled with bodkins and an unusually large headshot box for the large horses. Shooting at one standing still, or riding away, and it is rather survivable.
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Post by: Haboe on September 14, 2012, 09:35:18 pm: Survivability is for the armored horses, speed for the light, and wings for the courser
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Post by: WhiteAndMilky on September 15, 2012, 04:08:17 am: I actually agree in a way. But not in the way you seem to want it. I think ranged attacks like arrows should do less damage to horses, its way too easy to hit a horse with a ranged projectile. And I think things like spears should do more damage to horses. It seems silly that an arrow or a darned rock can take off half of a destriers health, but a footmans pike that plunges halfway through the horses front... Through main arteries and major organs... Only does maybe 1/4 or 1/3 of its health....
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Post by: matt2507 on September 15, 2012, 07:55:11 am: I'm sorry but he is right..
This is not because there is an abuse of the number of cav these times should not see the reality.
Light horses are carton...
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Post by: Ptolemy on September 15, 2012, 09:16:26 am: If you buy a cheap horse, you get a weak horse. That's how things are and how they should be.

Nothing wrong with the rouncy. Nothing at all.

-1'd.
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Post by: DaveUKR on September 15, 2012, 09:29:30 am: I was testing survivability of horses and champion Destrier managed to survive 2 headshots of MW arbalest with MW steel bolts on 10m range in like 50% of the times.
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Post by: Ptolemy on September 15, 2012, 09:58:54 am: Did you test leg shots? I'm curious.
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Post by: Fuma Kotaro on September 15, 2012, 10:10:45 am: leg is only better for meele (to attack)
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Post by: Ptolemy on September 15, 2012, 10:12:56 am: Quote from: sF_Leonidas on September 15, 2012, 10:10:45 am
leg is only better for meele (to attack)

Have you tested that?
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Post by: Fuma Kotaro on September 15, 2012, 10:23:28 am: ye vs tincan horses i can kill a champ plated charger in 3-4 hits and on the head it takes ages
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Post by: Ptolemy on September 15, 2012, 10:49:31 am: I meant with arrows/bolts, not with a sword. I know legs shots are more effective with swords.
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Post by: Templar_Steevee on September 15, 2012, 06:15:28 pm: It could be a missunderstand if archers should aim horse legs to kill them. It's normal to aim head, if you miss you can hit rider.
Title: Re: More Hitpoints or armor for horse.
Post by: oohillac on September 15, 2012, 07:13:57 pm: Quote from: Kawint on September 14, 2012, 07:19:02 pm
In battle, when I used my rouncey... he's dead 20 seconds after because 3 arrows hurt him.It's very unbalanced and not fair for cavman because we can't charge enemy with light horse. So i suggest to add more hitpoints or armor for the horses like rouncey, steppe horse, desert horse, palfrey, courser and arabian horse.

Stop riding at enemy spawn trying to get the jump on the enemy team.

Stop trying to engage aware groups of archers.

Ride in when your infantry is about to engage and the enemy is not watching their flanks.

Those horses are meant for skirmishing.
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Post by: Fuma Kotaro on September 15, 2012, 07:41:08 pm: With xbow and bodkins i d aim for the head(pierce) with tatars or less foots or just kill the rider
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Post by: Templar_Steevee on September 16, 2012, 11:47:30 am: Quote from: sF_Leonidas on September 15, 2012, 07:41:08 pm
With xbow and bodkins i d aim for the head(pierce) with tatars or less foots or just kill the rider
I'm using MW tatars and MW long bow. It's really nice for killing horses. Non plated horses die mostly in 3 shots (sometimes 2) in body, 6 pd 40 cut dmg. If hoseman is charging me I can deliver him or his hors huge dmg.
Arbelasts should be able to one-shot a horse. I was playing an x-bow long time ago and I know how it was those days. single cav only sometimes was trying to charge me. MW arbelast and MW steel bolts were horse killers :)
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Post by: Rumblood on September 16, 2012, 05:08:18 pm: Quote from: Tears of Destiny on September 14, 2012, 09:12:46 pm
Well, it's a rouncey. A lovely horse, really, if used correctly as a light one. You need to hang back a bit and only engage when there are distractions, and learn how to become an unpredictable horse.
Speed bonus mainly to blame coupled with bodkins and an unusually small headshot box for the light horses. Shooting at one standing still, or riding away, and it is rather survivable.

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