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Title: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on September 07, 2012, 10:50:50 pm
http://store.steampowered.com/app/4920/

Up for pre-order on Steam now. Great game for tactics/teamwork, lots of fun and the two totally different teams make it extra interesting. Even if you never played the first one (NS was originally a Half-Life mod), you should definitely get it if you're into these kinds of games at all.

Anyone else been playing the beta?

I also have a free copy I can trade someone if you have any neat extra stuff on Steam: http://forum.meleegaming.com/general-off-topic/anyone-have-any-cool-games-to-trade-on-steam/
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: SeQuel on September 08, 2012, 01:00:49 am
I bought it quite some time ago, it's fun but gets pretty boring playing by yourself since it seems not many people have it. Haven't played though and saw they added Exo Suits so ima have to try it again sometime.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Spook Island on September 08, 2012, 01:15:19 am
I was a big fan of the original half life mod.  If this game is anywhere near as good, I'll definitely probably check it out.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on September 08, 2012, 09:33:38 am
Spook: it is, get it! Personally I prefer it to the old one, they've made a lot of good changes to the formula. Hopefully it'll only get better.

I bought it quite some time ago, it's fun but gets pretty boring playing by yourself since it seems not many people have it. Haven't played though and saw they added Exo Suits so ima have to try it again sometime.

Yeah, everything's better when you've got a nice crew together on voice, and they're constantly adding new stuff, and apparently will be after release as well. I haven't got any Nords over yet either, though I'm trying to get them to buy it now that it's closer to coming out. Meanwhile the in-game voice comms are handy, and it's nice that they don't conflict with using TS because they're linked to a hotkey. I imagine it'd be really cool to have a clan/friend squad on TS using voice activation, while communicating with the rest of the team via PTT.

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Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Vexus on September 10, 2012, 02:33:43 pm
It's has a similar system as savage 2 which I loved but this is too much sci fi for my taste.

Savage 2 is fantasy has many classes (Humans vs beasts) and manual block! a shame it doesn't get updated by it's developer and instead they update that piece of crap HoN....
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on September 10, 2012, 10:32:58 pm
Yeah, the Savage games are sort of like a fantasy version of the concept. NS is older, though, and IMO more fun.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Ganner on September 14, 2012, 08:01:24 pm
I was big into natural selection 1 for about a year 10 years ago or so.  I may pick up part 2, but I really dont need any more multiplayer games lol.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: SeQuel on September 14, 2012, 11:42:39 pm
I got a extra copy of Natural Selection 2 since I pre-ordered the game before it was released on steam so if anyone is looking to buy it I'll sell yah it for 20$ and send it to yah over Steam if you can paypal me 20$.

If someone doesn't trust me I'm open for a middle man we can agree on, send me a PM if interested.


Sold, nevermind.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on October 10, 2012, 08:56:18 pm

Release date woop woop!
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Grumbs on October 31, 2012, 12:56:34 am
Don't see another thread for this..anyway its out in a few mins. Bump
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Frankysan on October 31, 2012, 01:19:26 am
it's out!!!
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Banok on November 11, 2012, 01:34:35 am
bought this today, its seems extremely fun
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Patoson on November 11, 2012, 01:42:54 am
I used to play the original Natural Selection, back when it was a mod for Half-Life. One of the best mods, and this sequel must be great as well.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 11, 2012, 01:46:29 am
Got this game today, its awesome! :D

Feels like a mix of Sc2 and Nuclear Dawn together with a bit of aliens vs predator, good game overall.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Sarpton on November 11, 2012, 05:13:19 am
Disappointed that the camera doesn't shift depending on if your on a wall/ceiling.  But the RTS elements and baseuilding is REALLY new and enjoyable.  Warsmith_Sarpton on steam add me maybe.   
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Kirbyy on November 11, 2012, 07:39:02 am
I actually know a guy that lives in Finland and works for the company that made this, to bad I'm not one of his closest friends lol.  He handed out free special edition keys.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on November 13, 2012, 04:18:09 am
Disappointed that the camera doesn't shift depending on if your on a wall/ceiling.

Always been one of my main gripes with NS, the wallrun implementation is weak. They should have ripped off the mechanics from Aliens vs Predator 2, those were fucking amazing.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Banok on November 13, 2012, 04:39:13 am
Even tho I generally prefer FPV I do kind of think aliens should be 3rd person. means alot less work for camera shifting and just kind of makes more sense.

anyway fayde with invis is too much fun  :D
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 13, 2012, 08:58:36 am
Well, imagine being a skulker trying to climb a wall in 3rd person, while trying to look down. Won't work. Also, having 3rd person gives some advantages over the marines. 3rd person enables you to see around corners without going around them yourself. Nope, would be bad.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Barracuda on November 13, 2012, 10:23:50 am
The only game I've played as much or more than crpg is the original ns.

I haven't bought the 2nd one yet. I'm not sure if it's because I'm scared that it sucks or that I get sucked into it.  :?
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 13, 2012, 10:31:28 am
The only game I've played as much or more than crpg is the original ns.

I haven't bought the 2nd one yet. I'm not sure if it's because I'm scared that it sucks or that I get sucked into it.  :?

Nah, its a good game :D
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: B3RS3RK on November 13, 2012, 12:06:47 pm
NS 2 is the first thing on my list when I have money for games again.Even before Borderlands 2 and the BF 3 DLC´s.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on November 13, 2012, 12:47:27 pm
Even tho I generally prefer FPV I do kind of think aliens should be 3rd person. means alot less work for camera shifting and just kind of makes more sense.

anyway fayde with invis is too much fun  :D
Well, imagine being a skulker trying to climb a wall in 3rd person, while trying to look down. Won't work. Also, having 3rd person gives some advantages over the marines. 3rd person enables you to see around corners without going around them yourself. Nope, would be bad.

Nah guys, check it:


This guy is a boring player, but you can see him using the wall crawl there and there, and it's a flawless mechanic. Would work just as well for skulks.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 13, 2012, 12:55:30 pm
Okin, it wont load for me, you sure you used the "share" link for the forum?
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on November 13, 2012, 02:02:28 pm
The URL is right, but embedding is disabled on that video for some reason. Just follow the link from the title.

Fair bit of wall climbing going on from 3:20 onwards, although the guy moves quite slowly and timidly. Couldn't find any better vids of it on youtube, just turned up stuff from the newer game, which was shit.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 13, 2012, 02:11:23 pm
Nvm. It was just my internet being slow.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: BlindGuy on November 13, 2012, 02:23:41 pm
I think he is going slow and headbiting each time cause he has the difficulty up quite high. In MY memory at least, Alien was the easiest campaign of AVP2, then Pred, and marine was the hardest...but I DID do Alien first so I probably ramped the difficulty up to max before doing marines.

That game was badass in SO many ways, but the mechanic of climbing walls/ceiling was definitly one of its best made features.


Funny thing...I remember the graphics being better, funny what memory does huh?
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Vibe on November 13, 2012, 02:27:34 pm
Fucking loved AvP2, specially the multiplayer. Can't recall much of it, I just remember I had tons of fun.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: BlindGuy on November 13, 2012, 02:33:23 pm
OMG memories now coming back of leaping onto marines in Multiplayer...that game was boss. Also getting memories now of the storylines being actually interesting in singleplayer, and feeling stupidly underpowered as a marine in singleplayer, watching my movement scanner thing, pitch dark room IRL, pitch dark corridor ingame, dropping my last flare, counting the bullets and being really scared.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: [ptx] on November 13, 2012, 03:05:43 pm
AvP2 had the most bad-ass gamemode of all - but i don't remember how it was called. Survival-something.

You had one team playing as either the marines or the corporates, the other team as aliens. Marines started out in larger numbers and had a minute to prepare. Then the aliens spawned and attacked, respawning after death. Whoever they killed, also respawned as an alien. The objective was for the human team to survive as long as possible.

Was freaking awesome, with all these random players working together, fortifying in groups in defensible positions, then waiting patiently, rifles at the ready...
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on November 14, 2012, 09:44:28 pm
I played so much AvP2 MP, seriously top tier game.

AvP2 had the most bad-ass gamemode of all - but i don't remember how it was called. Survival-something.

You had one team playing as either the marines or the corporates, the other team as aliens. Marines started out in larger numbers and had a minute to prepare. Then the aliens spawned and attacked, respawning after death. Whoever they killed, also respawned as an alien. The objective was for the human team to survive as long as possible.

Was freaking awesome, with all these random players working together, fortifying in groups in defensible positions, then waiting patiently, rifles at the ready...

Actually, you start out with humans only and it's deathmatch. When the first player dies, he spawns as an alien, and it goes on from there. The marines could actually get a team win if they beat the clock, otherwise the winner was the last man standing.

My other favourite game mode was Hunt.

>one or a few preds
>lots of humans
>only pred gets points for kills
>whichever human kills the pred respawns as pred, dead pred spawns as human

All dat stalking. Amazing atmosphere.

Hunt was also very fun as Preds vs Aliens. They can see you and they're fast, deadly, looking for melee, so instead of stalking you break out the big guns, all discs and plasma. Trying to find the right time and place to recharge your energy, or desperately fending off charging xenomorphs with your spear. Good times.

And yet 70% of the servers were always retarded 4-team DM or TDM. Pointless unbalanced bullshit.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: [ptx] on November 15, 2012, 08:41:46 am
I played so much AvP2 MP, seriously top tier game.

Actually, you start out with humans only and it's deathmatch. When the first player dies, he spawns as an alien, and it goes on from there. The marines could actually get a team win if they beat the clock, otherwise the winner was the last man standing.
Naw, man, i distinctly remember the gamemode, it had a minute or so of preparation time for the human team, before the aliens appeared. The marines could win, yeah.

Hunt was a superfun gamemode as well :)
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on November 15, 2012, 08:01:04 pm
You've mixed up Survivor and most likely Overrun in your mind. Survivor worked as I described, Overrun didn't feature players switching teams.

Trust me, I wasn't kidding when I said I played a lot of this game.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: djavo on November 30, 2012, 08:32:06 pm
This game is how AVP should be. Ofc if you have tard commander youre in problem, this type of game can be best or worst depending on amount of teamplay.
Hit me up on dumbass brits server, Im the one with big dildo.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: djavo on March 21, 2013, 08:58:25 pm
Free weekend on steam, check it if you hadn't chance. Multiplayer GOTY IMH&SO!
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on March 23, 2013, 01:03:02 pm
Free weekend is the worst thing ever. 70% of commanders are froobs who haven't bothered to watch any tutorials and don't know how to do anything, so they either spend the whole round doing literally nothing or just build useless shit and don't listen to any advice. It's horrifying.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: djavo on March 23, 2013, 02:11:31 pm
Free weekend is the worst thing ever. 70% of commanders are froobs who haven't bothered to watch any tutorials and don't know how to do anything, so they either spend the whole round doing literally nothing or just build useless shit and don't listen to any advice. It's horrifying.

Vote eject Okin :)
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on March 23, 2013, 04:14:40 pm
Well that's the other awful thing about it, when 80% of the team is green, it's impossible to get them to vote eject or vote concede, so every single time you have to wait and wait until the other team finally nuts up and stomps you. Of course sometimes it's froob comm vs froob comm, in which case the whole thing can take ages and just comes down to which one manages to be even more useless than the other, unless you can gather the whole team for a base rush.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: djavo on March 24, 2013, 02:07:38 pm
Well that's the other awful thing about it, when 80% of the team is green, it's impossible to get them to vote eject or vote concede, so every single time you have to wait and wait until the other team finally nuts up and stomps you. Of course sometimes it's froob comm vs froob comm, in which case the whole thing can take ages and just comes down to which one manages to be even more useless than the other, unless you can gather the whole team for a base rush.

Well there are rookie "unfriendly" servers from what I've seen. I stick to them. But I understand, lot of games were ruined by bad comm. Well It's the attitude of those players who wouldn't even watch tutorial and train as commander first. But everybody has to suck first time they comm, there's no escape from it. Since it's free weekend lot of guys want to try every aspect of the game. Atleast there's one positive thing and thats good k/d ratio but in this game it doesn't really mean anything.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on March 24, 2013, 02:39:57 pm
Atleast there's one positive thing and thats good k/d ratio but in this game it doesn't really mean anything.

In one round yesterday I killed more than half a dozen marines and personally ate four resource towers in the first couple of minutes of the game, but it didn't matter because the comm had done literally nothing in that time and the rest of the team had one kill between all of them. Frustrating as fuck.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Logen on March 24, 2013, 11:44:02 pm
Finally tried this; its surprisingly fun.

And yet 70% of the servers were always retarded 4-team DM or TDM. Pointless unbalanced bullshit.
:( I played a lot of those
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on March 25, 2013, 12:15:09 am
Yes, NS2 is a lot of fun. Now that free weekend is over things are back to normal and we can finally have real games again. Just played some really tense matches, long battles where bases were broken on both sides and you couldn't tell for sure who was going for win until quite shortly before the end. That's what it's all about. And looks like the free weekend did get the game some new buys as well, so I suppose it was worth it. Fresh meat is good.

:( I played a lot of those

Seriously? With life cycle too I bet.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Logen on March 25, 2013, 12:22:06 am
Seriously? With life cycle too I bet.
Nope, no one likes being faceraped every 15 seconds
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on March 25, 2013, 12:25:15 am
But that's exactly what always happened in those 4-way clusterfucks anyway. They were so fractured with that setup that they were essentially DM even if they were TDM. Whoever came up with that idea was a moron.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Weren on March 25, 2013, 12:30:10 am
Free weekend is the worst thing ever. 70% of commanders are froobs who haven't bothered to watch any tutorials and don't know how to do anything, so they either spend the whole round doing literally nothing or just build useless shit and don't listen to any advice. It's horrifying.
Well as I knew nothing about commanding I just assumed the role of the average soldier and kept spamming 'h'. Got into it and bought the game.  Haven't really played with the aliens yet, marines have kept me content.  :P
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: okiN on March 25, 2013, 12:34:58 am
Well as I knew nothing about commanding I just assumed the role of the average soldier and kept spamming 'h'. Got into it and bought the game.  Haven't really played with the aliens yet, marines have kept me content.  :P

Now, see, that's the right way to get started, if only the others had all done the same. You should play aliens too, it's a blast.

Pointers: as skulk you get a speed boost by jumping sideways onto a wall, then jumping again to get off it while always facing and moving moving forward. You can use that to move around the map faster and attack marines more effectively as well. Always stay off the floor when you're charging someone, use walls, ceilings and jumps to dodge when someone is shooting at you (or ambush when they're not). Once you close the distance, try to circle strafe around him etc. to keep him confused. It's also often helpful to tap LMB for single bites instead of holding it down, that way you can time it just right when you have him centered.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Pollux on March 26, 2013, 06:00:47 am
I had fun during the weekend, but I was getting FPS hiccuping issues although most of the time it was smooth. I need to upgrade.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Banok on March 26, 2013, 10:37:32 am
I enjoyed commanding all rookie (green) teams vs all non rookie, to victory several times over the free weekend. but this game gets boring and unchallenging, I had a game yesterday with 81 kills. this game is sc+cs but both of those games have matchmaking ladders, this game doesn't so has no longlivety or challenge.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: djavo on March 26, 2013, 12:30:10 pm
I enjoyed commanding all rookie (green) teams vs all non rookie, to victory several times over the free weekend. but this game gets boring and unchallenging, I had a game yesterday with 81 kills. this game is sc+cs but both of those games have matchmaking ladders, this game doesn't so has no longlivety or challenge.

Let me guess you need looms?
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Banok on March 27, 2013, 01:10:36 pm
If you'd read much of my whine posts I hate looms, they killed this mod. I suggested matchmaking in the post you quoted, but ns2 doesn't have a large enough player base for that.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Vibe on July 22, 2013, 08:43:49 am
Awesome game. I don't see why people are complaining so much about the learning curve / difficulty. I'm 13 hours played in and am noticing huge improvements to my performance. I did have very little time in NS1, but I doubt that was of any significance.
Title: Re: Natural Selection 2
Post by: Sniger on October 01, 2013, 08:57:04 am
i just bought it