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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kocik_4th on January 06, 2011, 12:41:21 am

Title: Fail.
Post by: Kocik_4th on January 06, 2011, 12:41:21 am
1- This mod is not funny anymore and i wont play anymore (u care or dont care)

2- You wanted to erase tincans so you can delete plate armors and horses. (and you forgot they didnt buy their equipment free, they played 8-10 hours for a day and who cares lazy ppl who cant buy good armors. You were like comunist while u doing it)

3- People dont care about kills or deaths or flag now. They only care about money and repair costs. = not funny.

4- You wont lose anything with my leave but im not alone you know (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,314.0.html)

5- And i dont care about fix or something. You could think this expensive upkeep is a shit.

Congratz chadz

Thanks.


And sorry for bad English.
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Tai Feng on January 06, 2011, 01:04:14 am
1. Your humble opinion.

2. Tincans and horses are not impossible to purchase. It's only impossible to equip them the entire time. I'm sorry that you don't understand that. Also,  using your logic 95% of armors could have been deleted in previous patches because everyone was just buying medium armor (say, lamellar), then saving for elite one.

3. Wrong. They care about the same things as before, except that everyone is having more fun. Oh, sorry, everyone except gremlins.

4. Sure, organize a Union and then threaten to chadz that everyone will leave the game.

5. Expensive upkeep? At what point upkeep would not be expensive, when through normal gameplay everyone would be able to afford tincan? That would beat the point of upkeep. Upkeep is at the point that shows what armor developer wants most people to equip in the game. Before, it was tincan, now it's not.


Be seeing you.


ps: Judging by ingame chat last few hours, I'd say people were having more fun than before. Once they got adjusted to new system.
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Lorn on January 06, 2011, 01:12:50 am
This is what happened the last time there was a massive balancing update.

I lol at all of it!  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: FICO on January 06, 2011, 03:32:57 pm

2- You wanted to erase tincans so you can delete plate armors and horses. (and you forgot they didnt buy their equipment free, they played 8-10 hours for a day and who cares lazy ppl who cant buy good armors. You were like comunist while u doing it)


we lazy people get layed, have job, children, wives, husbands, another hobbies, life  :rolleyes: :wink:
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Pecores_Marzi_le_fourbe on January 06, 2011, 03:43:17 pm
Let them time to adapt the patch. It's a huge work, and like all work, it take time..
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: bruce on January 06, 2011, 03:46:36 pm
This patch made crpg more fun again.
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Tuna on January 06, 2011, 03:49:32 pm
Nuu, another GTX. Seriously, stop whining and let chadz improve HIS mod. The patch just came, so stop acting like u bought it or something and play, it'll get better eventually.

PS. I get kills thanks to the patch! ;d
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: TheClash on January 06, 2011, 04:06:12 pm
i agree one thing : upkeep is a piece of shi....

want less tin can ? why ? 

i begin to play crpg 2 week ago, i'am light armored, and being killed by super heavy knight dont bother me  much !

why ? because i know i will have this kind of armor one day.

guy in tin can are player who play crpg a lot before me or, who play a lot a day, but it's like a reward for a huge duty.

bored to get killed by better equiped guy ? go play more untill u too can acces to better equipment , that it.
its the same in all game, better stuff = better chance to win, why whine about that ?
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Tai Feng on January 06, 2011, 04:39:39 pm

People like sir TheClash support old patch.

Let's see what they're made of.

want less tin can ? why ?

Ignorance.

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i begin to play crpg 2 week ago

Inexperience.

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i'am light armored, and being killed by super heavy knight dont bother me  much !

Masochist.

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why ?
(too many why's)

Bad learner.

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because i know i will have this kind of armor one day.

Sadist.

Bully.

(he rejoices the day he will be able to bully peasants merely because of his tincan armor and silly equip)

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but it's like a reward for a huge duty.

Gameworker instead of gameplayer.

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its the same in all game, better stuff = better chance to win, why whine about that ?

Politician.

(Gives false data in other to promote false values.)

Since the dawn of time, games only rewarded skill. And, luck, to some extent.

Grinding is a recent invention, and only found in videogames. Grinding as a concept did not even exist in pc world before. The concept of "working in a game for 1 year to be able to play for fun 2 weeks, then repeat" would be ridiculed before. Even old RPG games did not have grinding in a way there is today in some games. Old RPG games such as Diablo used levels and equipment for variety, fun, replayability and game balance. Not for grinding/working. In these games you would increase your level, you would gain beter items, but you were also by that point fighting stronger enemies - so relatively speaking you were *not* more powerful. And, as a matter of fact, you gained zero XP from weaker enemies. Comparing this to cRPG is silly. You don't get XP and gold relative to the level and equip of your opponent.




So ladies of gentlemen, the question is, is TheClash that customer cRPG will be tailored for?
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: krampe on January 06, 2011, 04:49:25 pm
Wasn't there an option to ignore someone on the new forum?


EDIT:
Found it google ftw
add a user to your PM ignore list from your profile to ignore them; blocks them PMing you and also hides their posts.
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Kocik_4th on January 06, 2011, 06:10:04 pm
we lazy people get layed, have job, children, wives, husbands, another hobbies, life  :rolleyes: :wink:
I'm going university everyday. I can't play too much (only 2-3 hours for a day and not everyday) I can kill tincans easily with my middle armors or weapons. Tincans are not problem i wanted to say.

And yes, i saw this game is too important for me. I dont play any other game. It's my first game which i like.
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: nuffen on January 06, 2011, 10:56:57 pm
I like communists, yey, go for the revolution chadz! :D
anyway, theres ofc ltos to be tweaked with the patch, but generally I think its good. :D
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Salamol on January 06, 2011, 11:04:15 pm
I don't think the mod was ever meant to be funny... though I did laugh after I set up a ladder against a wall (going absolutely nowhere) and 6 people walked up it one after the other... It was like Lemmings...
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Ishar on January 06, 2011, 11:07:52 pm
guy in tin can are player who play crpg a lot before me or, who play a lot a day, but it's like a reward for a huge duty.

And that's exactly the problem.
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Bulzur on January 06, 2011, 11:14:59 pm
And that's exactly the problem.

That was the problem indeed (one of them, range being a second^^).
And thanks to the hotfix, i'm having fun "again". I managed to have a 12/6 k/d score on a siege map with my lv12 polearm user. xD
And when you see a tincan nowadays, it's really the "big boss" you have to fight off, even more when he has blocking skills and a high level. (Random Dude, perfect example of that ;) )
And it's more interesting. Not speaking of siege patch, where with infinite respawn we actually see some good kamikaze counter-attacks from small group of defenders.
All hail chadz ! (i even saw him playing testing the game today o_O )
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Michael on January 06, 2011, 11:21:14 pm
And that's exactly the problem.

Why? You want to ruin the game for all normal people?

You know, when I have started to play this mod (ages before you, Bulzur, Gorath and all the other NA wannabe pro gamers), there were many players around, that had better chars and gear.

And I died. Many many times.

Sometimes I raged about it, but I knew one day the day will come I will have the char and the gear I can compete with them (with more or less success).

When the day came, it was fun. For a while. Then lazy whiners like you, Gorath, ... popped up out of nowhere and decided to cry the devs a river so that they turned the mod in a fail people mod. The more you suck the bigger is your reward.

Before hotfix it was still okay, because I had it in my own hands, all I had to do was to help my team win.

Nowadays I get punished for a perfect round, have to pay for repair of a horse that has its full health and a throwing lance I didnt even use, and thats just not sane.

Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Vicious666 on January 06, 2011, 11:23:00 pm
This is what happened the last time there was a massive balancing update.

I lol at all of it!  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

you not understand

fix/nerf is one thing


change completely the  mod, is making another mod,      removing basic all the purpose of this mod since is borned

i was here in beta when we where 40 guy in the server there was 1 server only and you?this mod was all about level,grind,exp, build char,         now is native mk2, + upkeep      that is tedious.          withouth considering the hundred maybe thousand  of hours ppl wasted on  growing theyr chars and equiping them.

if we wanna play arkade  all at same lev  we play native not crpg
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Ishar on January 06, 2011, 11:25:45 pm
Sorry, I stopped reading at the 'no life' part, and considered the whole thing as mindless rage.
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: corizo on January 06, 2011, 11:25:55 pm
People that had (and still have) tincans and play a lot will still have a good advantage: they can wear them more often than casual players.

Before 0.2 you just grinded for the high armors and then you had it, all the time. Let's call it easy mode.

With 0.2, you need to buy a armor for daily use and your tincan is for special occasions. Tincans should be something special, not something everyone has and using it all the time!
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Michael on January 06, 2011, 11:30:40 pm
People that had (and still have) tincans and play a lot will still have a good advantage: they can wear them more often than casual players.


No. Because skill doesnt matter. It doesnt matter if you win or lose. And that sucks.


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Before 0.2 you just grinded for the high armors and then you had it, all the time. Let's call it easy mode.

Its not easy mode when your opponent has the same gear. Tincan versus tincan is the same like peasant versus peasant. Difference, however, tincan versus tincan is more fun. (Tincan, here = everyone can use his fav gear)

The level cap makes sense.

Upkeep not.

Especially not to pay to repair items that werent even damaged.



Ishar, changed the post a bit.
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: chadz on January 06, 2011, 11:33:14 pm
No. Because skill doesnt matter. It doesnt matter if you win or lose. And that sucks.

There is a multiplicator, and that is what differs good players from average ones.
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Michael on January 06, 2011, 11:43:16 pm
There is a multiplicator, and that is what differs good players from average ones.


I wrote it in another topic.

When I play only one round, and have to go afk/ lose connection/ whatever afterwards, doesnt work for me.

My multiplicator is then 1 again.

While leech having higher multiplicator.


Also, I dont care about gold in the first place, my gold will last for a while.
But it was so much more fun when you had to win the round to save your team from repair costs/ upkeep.



(I am aware you cant make everyone happy. Someone is always complaining, no matter what you decide to do. Thank you for all your efforts chadzie-Schatzie.)


Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Ishar on January 06, 2011, 11:47:49 pm
I'll try to be diplomatic, so I'll focus on the one thing we can agree upon:
It was better when the repair costs only effected the losing team. That gave more reason for people to fight for winning. Here's why (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,455.0.html)
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: CtrlAltDe1337 on January 06, 2011, 11:52:47 pm
HATE YOU chadz OMG CANT ALWAYS USE MY PLATE U RUINED MOD FOREVER
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: _malek_ on January 06, 2011, 11:53:56 pm
LOLOLOLOL

Esti qui sont drole les braillard...

First of all:ITS A FUCKING GAME

when i read at your post,i dont even ask me why there is war on our beautiful planet!

Secondary:thx to chadz for this fix...and i love your mods buddy!!
;0)

the patch is cool and give evrybody a chance to improve his skill,not just hide behind "tincans" waiting have enough xp and gold to be competitive!

everybody,I wish you a nice play time

(sorry for the french part but I don't know how to EXCATELY translate that!
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Michael on January 07, 2011, 12:00:04 am
HATE YOU chadz OMG CANT ALWAYS USE MY PLATE U RUINED MOD FOREVER


One question I wanted to raise since a long time. Is there an unwritten rule you have to be completely retarded to get admin zookeeper on NA servers?

Posting the same "joke" in every topic without even getting what the people are talking about, wow, thats mature. 
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Vicious666 on January 07, 2011, 12:37:03 am
There is a multiplicator, and that is what differs good players from average ones.

1 round

2nd round all good player are on 1 side,   end of game.           + random upkeep       = total boring game

add on this no more char to develop, no more equip


difference between your mod and native are becoming 0,       except game style stuff who make it worst than better compared to native,      at moment sadly crpg not offer a better game/experience than  normal game.



if you have right and we are wrong why every fucking single 3d on this forum and the other scream for have back the crpg of 3 day ago,     all polls are almost 60% no for upkeep, except some stupid trolls and mindless fanboy        majority of community      loved more crpg of 3 day ago
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: _malek_ on January 07, 2011, 12:59:20 am
except some stupid trolls and mindless fanboy.


wow,because some people dont share your very opinion they are stupid and mindless....:)
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Vicious666 on January 07, 2011, 01:00:38 am
except some stupid trolls and mindless fanboy.


wow,because some people dont share your very opinion they are stupid and mindless....:)

my?  over 65% of community think like this

we are the wrong one right?, i not see any suggestion or  idea to fix the mod, coming from this mindless troll , is not a case that i not recon theyr name that means they even where a shit players in crpg, so for them now is a cool mod, they can randomly     swing and since ppl is almost naked they can manage to make 1-2 kills, becouse they where too bad for grind and equip theyr char  3 day ago
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Ishar on January 07, 2011, 01:12:19 am
my?  over 65% of community think like this
That's deception. Polls may look like that, but polls only reflect the forum community's opinion. And that's, what, 200 guys? There are tens of thousands of registered players. OK, not all of them are active, but we're still talking about thousands here.

Oh chadz, I'll be the little devil above your shoulder: Have you ever thought about what would happen if each of those people paid you a single dollar?
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: _malek_ on January 07, 2011, 01:14:49 am
everybody have been a sucker 1 day.we all start sucking somewhere...and those who lost there pacifier start whinning!! :P
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: ManTrackaa on January 07, 2011, 01:16:21 am
So i can camp now and gain xp.... looks like idling will be in these days.
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: _malek_ on January 07, 2011, 01:18:34 am
you can camp,but you surely have a ban poll on your head lol
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Vicious666 on January 07, 2011, 01:18:55 am
So i can camp now and gain xp.... looks like idling will be in these days.


you can do even worst things like : join a team, go spectator,  join game only when your team is 2x 3x etc
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Vicious666 on January 07, 2011, 01:20:09 am
That's deception. Polls may look like that, but polls only reflect the forum community's opinion. And that's, what, 200 guys? There are tens of thousands of registered players. OK, not all of them are active, but we're still talking about thousands here.

Oh chadz, I'll be the little devil above your shoulder: Have you ever thought about what would happen if each of those people paid you a single dollar?


you can  enlarge that % to thousand as you do with hundreds will be the same

or even worst (probably in this case much worst i am thinking more on 75%+  )
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Gorath on January 07, 2011, 01:20:56 am
(ages before you, Bulzur, Gorath and all the other NA wannabe pro gamers)

Doubt that, I started mindless zombie peasant grinding on EU before Jest opened up the NA server.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Grey on January 07, 2011, 01:23:30 am
Im a wannabe pro gamer woot! No, im not, ima nub....Patch has made the game fun, now its a game about Getting a Char to PROPER MP level, max 30ish, and what you made, what niche you filled, what you wear and how you choose to fight, not what is USED TO BE: I have played for longer than you, TAKE HEADSHOT!

Im so sry it has become more skillbased game, but......evolve or die.....
Title: Re: Fail.
Post by: Michael on January 07, 2011, 09:08:36 am
Doubt that, I started mindless zombie peasant grinding on EU before Jest opened up the NA server.


I remember Fedor and toosexy as skilled US players, I dont remember you. Not that I would care anyways.




Grey, I really thought you were smarter than this one. The original patch was good, really good, the upkeep perhaps a bit too high, but okay.
Its the hotfix that sucks. Spawn naked, rush into the enemies, die, maximum reward. Then do some mins something usefull with your time, then same again. No point in winning rounds because it doesnt matter if you win or lose. You have to pay for repair for items that got no damage, while the guy you killed has to pay nothing. Thats not right.