Well, ninjas got nerfed by setting a lvl limit and reducing their ability to have like 9-10 ath and 180wpf, and also by canceling proximity based xp gaining. Because old system left a lot of room for them to run around flanks, since that didn't matter anymore everyone was roaming in their own direction and poor ninjas didn't have any more room to flank.
Plus, that class was imo always the hardest, because low armor and hp means two stray arrows kill you, or one lucky throwing/xbow shot.
Let's just say that it was the biggest handicap for the weakest class.
Well, ninjas got nerfed by setting a lvl limit and reducing their ability to have like 9-10 ath and 180wpf, and also by canceling proximity based xp gaining. Because old system left a lot of room for them to run around flanks, since that didn't matter anymore everyone was roaming in their own direction and poor ninjas didn't have any more room to flank.
Plus, that class was imo always the hardest, because low armor and hp means two stray arrows kill you, or one lucky throwing/xbow shot.
39 body armor?
I was on NA earlier and watching some samurai clans run around in russian armours and mallets was a little disappointing.
I've seen a few of the Red Lotus guys running with mallets, but they normally stick to the nodachi and katana.
visitors can't see pics , please register or loginCan't stop staring at that guys face...
Ninjas using a masterworked katana have an extremely fast, hard hitting weapon, and due to the fact that most ninjas are agi builds, they swing faster than fucking light.
And according to BRD scientists, katanas increase speed. thanks Linden.
Ninjas aside, I haven't seen a damned samurai on NA in quite a while.
Longsword is better than the katana in almost every way lol. You don't see people in duel (now that there is a point system) with a katana. You see them all with longswords or similar swords. But that is old news.
Anyways what is this level nerf? You can't have more than 27 ath or something?
Of course it has to do with me being fed up with all that Japanophile stuff in the media, from Anime/Manga/Hentai and games in this style (every second browsergame looks that way :shock: ) over their weird pop culture with those ugly Panda girls (Ganguros or something like that), weird movies with people flying through the air and their weird style for fantasy (racoon men, speaking owls...) and SciFi (it's never pure SciFI, there are always some ghosts or angles or something like that), with those superhuman beings which are super fast, super strong, unkillable and wield bigger weapons than themselves to finally this unbearably arrogant attitude that everything from Japan is superior to everything from Europe. Samurais would kill knights, Katana wins against Longsword, and so on. And of course we are racists for not liking Samurais and Ninjas. How about weaboos being racist for not liking knights?
I appreciate their will to roleplay in a game which is so much about efficiency and success, I give them that. But I am not even missing their role as skirmishers, because I think a small squad of mixed infantry (shields, spears, throwing weapons and cutting archers into thin stripes weapons) is much better suited for that task than a few Ninjas with no shields or polearms.
I can feel with you guys that you like to roleplay your favourite warriors in a game, but in my eyes the game should fit. I'd also like to roleplay a German soldier from WW1 or WW2, but do I try to implement their helmet into cRPG and call people racists for not allowing me to play a chocolate chip cookie? No. Things have to fit. There are certain things which simply HURT certain's people eyes. For me it's Samurais fighting knights or knights wearing penis banners.
You know, some of that isn't even Japanese. A lot actually comes from the other countries that are around Japan. Talking about not being intolerant and then just going on and generalizing.
Opinion. Who are you to tell me(or others) what is best. Watching a clanny earlier play a ninja and he was constantly top of scoreboard in points. Anything can be effective, just you prefer to think that only European style shit is more effective.
Choose a better analogy. At least the Samurai EXISTED at or Coincided WITH European knights. Straw man argument trying use not even time period appropriate response.
And we get to the Crux. You can't stand seeing something that ruins your over glorified Medieval combat simulator with someone else's views on how they wish to play. If you can't stand seeing Samurai gear, then get the weeaboo removal mod that replaces all their textures with European ones. Don't dictate how others wish to play a game because you can't stand their style choice.
I don't dictate anything. I was asked for my opinion, I gave it, and again I got confronted with this arrogant "Don't be racist to us, everyone is free to do what he wants" attitude, like I was some kind of facist who tells people to use certain equipment. Well, how about removing all the Japanese stuff from the game and making a weeaboo addon mod? Because, you know, don't dictate others who wish to play a game (in my case a European medieval one) because you can't stand their choice (to not like weeaboos).
Never understood the hate on weebos. They claim the game is based on europe thus japanese armors and weapons don't make sense. However the game has armors and weapons from a very long length of history. Its not like we came into this mod knowing it was going to stick to 13th century armor and weapons and then suddenly it changed.
Its always been about making your own character and that was it. I like seeing some variety in armor anyway. Doesn't EU have like 50% kuyak armor or something? That should hurt your eyes.
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Perhaps my argument above should be limited to a general rather than specific(IE you) person.
Joker I think you are very lame. At least Ninjas has always been part of cRPG, and will always exist in some form or another..
Besides, Ninja was always about having a distinct style, and also to create a challenge for yourself. None of us in Ninja are japanophiles. There's not a single pop cultural japanese image in our 2 year old forums.. You are just reading into your own prejudices as of who plays Ninja.
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I like the dark, dirty, realistic western style. That's all. I don't like turned in, colourful, fancy, or exaggerations.
But on the other hand, please understand that if I see someone who reenacts Ninjas for several years now, I conclude that he must be a fanboy in one way or another.
I tried converting my knights into samurai, and I'm never going to give up!
when you going to join RL Zoleta?
Could be, I am definitely not speaking for others. I try to not be racist, but on the other hand you can't expect someone to like everything.
And to be honest, I do like the Asian people very much. Although this is probably a racist generalization as well, but I think they are very capable, humble, self-sacrificing and pleasant company in general. And I do like their food very much. It's just their "pop-culture" and "media" I can't get along with a single bit.
I like the dark, dirty, realistic western style. That's all. I don't like turned in, colourful, fancy, or exaggerations which cross the line to
Are you insecure about your SEXUALITY?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS2SzGUwaMI
But if the developers give the setting of Eurasia 500-1500 a.D., and then add Japanese stuff, I call something wrong.
Except it went more like: The developers started with the native armours (which already included the strange armours), then added a whole bunch of new stuff, leading to people thinking the "setting" is 500-1500 eurasia, while never really increasing the asian selection of armours (quite possibly because there never were any good armour packs that could be added).
Your whole idea of the devs selecting 500-1500 eurasia as a "setting" and then adding asian gear is just completely wrong. Besides, haven't the devs already confirmed they're going to be adding parts of the chinese armour pack?
Also, we have items that far exceed the year 1500.
and to your last post
you dislike japanese stuff right now because there are just those asian armors but you will hate it less if they d add chinese stuff
your logic makes no sense
Seeing this upsurge of archers on public servers, we, Byzantium, decided wisely to give up our shields to come back to the SHOGUNATES ERA !:cry: But i like the byzantium theme. :(
SHOGUNATES ARE BACK ! HOURA !
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It does.
Imagine a strategy game. You have following races:
- humans
- orcs
- elves
- dwarves
- undead
- space marines
You wouldn't say that space marines fit in well, would you? It's apure fantasy setting, which means that space marines don't fit in there, they are out of place and thus they will annoy you.
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Does it fit? No.
In the Warhammer 40K universe? With thousand of world and culture, where a lot of then fall back to middle age (and beyond) technologies? And where this elfe mage is not far away from an archonte eldar with a runic blade?
Let's say yes.
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By the way, western armours somehow kept in Asian style? Mongol Empire, China to Poland, year 1274
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