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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gawin on August 25, 2012, 02:58:27 am
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Can devs remove the 5% fee? It's ridiculous. I put money in there a long time ago to help out new players who needed money in the clan or simply used it as a stash to make sure i still have some back up cash. Yeah blah blah about people who abuse that system to avoid the 5% fee in marketplace, just add a cool down button for two weeks (meaning the "new member" wont be able to use the bank or armory for two weeks). That way the actual real recruits will still be able to use the banner and say a member from one clan wants to trade with a member from another clan and go around the 5% fee it would take that person 4 weeks to get the money and return to his clan with full usage of it. I doubt that someone would wait 4 weeks just to save say 50k or something.
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I for one will stop paying chadz evil tax.
No taxation without representation!
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I wish they would add a taxation that clans could set for their members and alts. Something like where you could set a tax on your player's ticks, anywhere from 0-10% so each of their ticks pays into the bank a little bit would be great. My clan would be all for it because it is money we would really never see, and it would help buy more Looms, equip new players, fund out Plated Charger bumping, and go to a great use.
Devs should consider it.
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I wish they would add a taxation that clans could set for their members and alts. Something like where you could set a tax on your player's ticks, anywhere from 0-10% so each of their ticks pays into the bank a little bit would be great. My clan would be all for it because it is money we would really never see, and it would help buy more Looms, equip new players, fund out Plated Charger bumping, and go to a great use.
Devs should consider it.
Yes this would be fantastic.
Another idea is to lock gold where it is and have all of a given member's profits go to the clan bank.
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Yes this would be fantastic.
Another idea is to lock gold where it is and have all of a given member's profits go to the clan bank.
Oh Tom, such a cad.
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bump so devs can see and hopefully use
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optimistic bumps?
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I wish they would add a taxation that clans could set for their members and alts. Something like where you could set a tax on your player's ticks, anywhere from 0-10% so each of their ticks pays into the bank a little bit would be great. My clan would be all for it because it is money we would really never see, and it would help buy more Looms, equip new players, fund out Plated Charger bumping, and go to a great use.
Devs should consider it.
What kind of a fucked up idea is this? Forcing your clanmates to share their gold, fucking commie, if I feel like giving 50k to SoA I give 50k to SoA, if I don't feel like giving 50k to SoA then I don't give 50k to SoA, and the same would go for all my clanmates, the second SoA would try to force me to donate gold to them is the second I'd leave, and your fucking argument for why it's a good idea to steal instead of let your members choose if they wish to support you is that they won't notice you're stealing from them...
What you suggest is just some fascist commie bullshit...
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What kind of a fucked up idea is this? Forcing your clanmates to share their gold, fucking commie, if I feel like giving 50k to SoA I give 50k to SoA, if I don't feel like giving 50k to SoA then I don't give 50k to SoA, and the same would go for all my clanmates, the second SoA would try to force me to donate gold to them is the second I'd leave, and your fucking argument for why it's a good idea to steal instead of let your members choose if they wish to support you is that they won't notice you're stealing from them...
What you suggest is just some fascist commie bullshit...
Calm down there internet tough guy. I know school is rough right now, but try to relax in these forums.
Obviously, the amount of tax would be decided by the clan. Most ticks in terms of gold go unnoticed, and I'm pretty sure 2-4% (you're talking 1 or 2 gold per 50 gold, I did the math because I know it's hard for you to comprehend) would hardly be noticeable for most players. This would be something all clan members are expected to pay. You pay sales tax right? It ranges anywhere from 7.8% to 8.5% and some states even higher. Do you bitch? No. Not sure if you're old enough to get a paycheck, but ever looked at it? Good portion is held for taxes.
Most clans and a lot of players would get behind an idea to have their clan members pay a small tax into the bank and it's done for them off of each tick. It's like they never even received the gold, but they still are contributing to the clan. It's up to the clan to decide whether or not they'd tax the players. SoA doesn't want to do it? Great, good for them! They don't have to, but it could be an easy to implement idea that would make the clan bank a more viable means for clans to gather and get money together to fund members who need it. I know for a fact I would not miss 1-5 gold each tick, not a big deal.
So like I said, calm down. This isn't about every clan and everyone submitting to it, it's a simple suggestion.
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Calm down there internet tough guy. I know school is rough right now, but try to relax in these forums.
Obviously, the amount of tax would be decided by the clan. Most ticks in terms of gold go unnoticed, and I'm pretty sure 2-4% (you're talking 1 or 2 gold per 50 gold, I did the math because I know it's hard for you to comprehend) would hardly be noticeable for most players. This would be something all clan members are expected to pay. You pay sales tax right? It ranges anywhere from 7.8% to 8.5% and some states even higher. Do you bitch? No. Not sure if you're old enough to get a paycheck, but ever looked at it? Good portion is held for taxes
Essentially your idea is taking gold from your clanmates without them noticing it, totally not fucked up and retarded, at all.
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So just don't join clans that tax you.
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So just don't join clans that tax you.
Still, it's retarded and the devs really shouldn't waste their time coding shit just so Tanken can steal from his clanmates without them noticing.
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Still, it's retarded and the devs really shouldn't waste their time coding shit just so Tanken can steal from his clanmates without them noticing.
I think a clan tax could be useful for features such as helping fund a "market program" where a member just plays the market and makes money buying low and trading high, several clans do this already, and other games have a "tax" option such as EVE for funding group projects.
Admittedly, c-RPG Melee Gaming currently does not have too much of a demand for a money pool, but it does currently allow a "bank" for a reason, and it would not be stealing if all members agree. Heck, even have the clan tax be "public" on the clan screen that already exists.
Of course, there would be ways to troll the system, but there would be easy fixes via delays and/or notifications for tax changes.
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I'm too lazy to manually donate gold to the clan on a regular basis. I wouldn't mind this.
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in my country (quebec) we pay about 15% tax
5% is annoying but as dev are trying to money sink everything it's pretty much obligatory, we do not want fisc heaven in crpg!
maybe they could remove tax when you give money to teammate gen 1 lvl 25- ? (not alt obviously)
because it's annoying when I wanna help someone it's already a money sink as this guy will buy useless gear and try a lot then sell them for half the price!
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I wish they would add a taxation that clans could set for their members and alts. Something like where you could set a tax on your player's ticks, anywhere from 0-10% so each of their ticks pays into the bank a little bit would be great. My clan would be all for it because it is money we would really never see, and it would help buy more Looms, equip new players, fund out Plated Charger bumping, and go to a great use.
Devs should consider it.
Or you could just tell your clanmates that they have weekly/monthly dues to pay, and if they dont pay then you kick them out.
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Or you could just tell your clanmates that they have weekly/monthly dues to pay, and if they dont pay then you kick them out.
You've never managed a clan, have you? Good grief the tedium of this kind of management would kill even the most dedicated bureaucrat (Tomas, I'm looking at you).
All for the suggestions posted here.
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Still, it's retarded and the devs really shouldn't waste their time coding shit just so Tanken can steal from his clanmates without them noticing.
What sort of hatred do you have towards me? I've never even heard of you, much less care about you. But this idea isn't about me getting rich off of clan-mates. There are 7 others in my clan with access to the bank. I have all the gold and looms I could ever want.
This was a suggestion for clans to enjoy, and my clan mates WOULD NOTICE and WOULD BE TOLD prior. I don't get what you are failing to comprehend?
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Zlisch, for your information, almost every single KUTT member is in favor of Tanken's suggestion.
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What sort of hatred do you have towards me? I've never even heard of you, much less care about you. But this idea isn't about me getting rich off of clan-mates. There are 7 others in my clan with access to the bank. I have all the gold and looms I could ever want.
This was a suggestion for clans to enjoy, and my clan mates WOULD NOTICE and WOULD BE TOLD prior. I don't get what you are failing to comprehend?
This "My clan would be all for it because it is money we would really never see" is my problem, if they don't notice it, it's still being taken, if they notice it, well, then you might as well just ask them to add 50k to the bank once a month or some shit like that, and it'd be 100% unnecessary, the only use for your suggestion is thievery, and well, if people can't log in once a month and add 50k to the bank, then damn... they're probably not that interested in giving you gold then...
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Zlisch, for your information, almost every single KUTT member is in favor of Tanken's suggestion.
So if everyone in KUTT wants to donate money to KUTT, why don't they...just donate money to KUTT? In both ATS and Remnant, I never saw a problem with money in the bank. When it needed money to get a banner or someone was short on cash, someone would say in the main channel hey guys can everyone put X money in the bank? Bam problem solved.
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It's a simple matter of convenience. Taxes are paid out of your paychecks and into the government every year. I'm pretty sure if you were just asked to write a check instead of have it automatically done for you, you would often times fail to do it.
This system would allow for clans that want to impose a tax on their members to do so without their players having to do it manually. That would be the ease of the system. And when I mention they wouldn't notice it's because this gold they already know is going to be given partially to the clan bank and the rest is theirs to keep. I am absolutely sure that with a tax system, my members don't mind 2-4%, hell, even some all the way up to 10% being removed from their ticks, but they would appreciate the tax more if it was automatically done for them without them having to calculate the expense.
All in all, it's a suggestion. The animosity it is receiving is somewhat unwarranted and the assumptions made about it while they may be sound in other circumstances are largely un-called for especially when you are considering to peg me as someone that would abuse this system when I for one would largely support it not only for KUTT, but for a multitude of clans to make it easier to gather funds for the clan and the armoury.
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How about this then:
Let ME set an amount of my gold income to automatically be given to my clan?
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Taxes? Providing for members?
Sounds like big government welfare statism to me!
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How about this then:
Let ME set an amount of my gold income to automatically be given to my clan?
I HAD NOT THOUGHT OF THAT! That's a great idea, but it would be nice if it was automated WITH the Tax system. Say you don't wanna donate anything, put 0% in the box, done deal life goes on. Others could set the % of their money they want automatically deposited into the bank.
Great idea Zapper.
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please stay on topic guys