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Title: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: TugBoat on August 23, 2012, 10:01:48 pm
I'm gonna go with a +3 Great Bardiche for two handers. HUGE cut damage. Bonus against shields, solid animations. Pretty cheap upkeep, good range. All around goo weapon. Crazy ghost reach.

Also Goendong weapon thing. Knock down, blunt, AND a pierce thrust? Swing range goes off the tip of the spike at the end giving it some of the best ghost reach in the game. If not THE best. Not to mention very solid, but WEIRD animations make it hard to follow!

That being said I'm trading both of those items on the market place. Bardiche + gold for steel bolts. Goendong + gold for italian sword.

WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK IS MOST UNDERRATED WEAPON?
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Taser on August 23, 2012, 10:02:26 pm
Cudgel/torch/sickle/staffs in general.
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Post by: Gurnisson on August 23, 2012, 10:03:59 pm
Flanged Mace
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Post by: gazda on August 23, 2012, 10:05:19 pm
1. why is the poleaxe on the list?
2. why are there 2 of them?
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: HELM on August 23, 2012, 10:07:19 pm
most underrated 1h sword is the Liuyedao.

MW Liu 103 speed, 88 reach, 34 slice, no stab (cause 1h stab is useless) and low upkeep. Better than the higher Tier Nuiyedao IMO.
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Post by: Rantrex on August 23, 2012, 10:10:33 pm
strongbow
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Post by: TurmoilTom on August 23, 2012, 10:11:08 pm
Practice Sword, one-handed variant.

It has around the same reach as the highest tier one-handers coupled with 103 speed. Not only that, but with blunt damage you don't have to stack power strike to not glance on generic high-medium armors. 0.7 weight helps with maneuverability, too.

I loved using the damn thing during my 30/9 swashbuckler gen.
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Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on August 23, 2012, 10:12:17 pm
Cav.

Noone uses them because they're so hard.
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Post by: Bjord on August 23, 2012, 10:17:31 pm
Nice "sublime" advertising.

Anyway, I'd say fauchard is one of them. Like a hotter, better, stronger version of scythe.
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Post by: Adamar on August 23, 2012, 10:19:45 pm
Fighting axe
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Post by: BlackMilk on August 23, 2012, 10:24:37 pm
Italian Falchion, Flanged Mace and Soldiers Cleaver
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Post by: Knitler on August 23, 2012, 10:26:51 pm
Awlpike :-)
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: wayyyyyne on August 23, 2012, 10:31:45 pm
Goedendag isn't all that good. The occasional knockdown you get from it doesn't really make up for the super low (albeit blunt) damage.
Still somewhat underrated, though.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Leshma on August 23, 2012, 10:34:44 pm
Great Long Bardiche. It's simply an epic weapon. Slow but hits hard, unbalanced but stun enemies block. Dunno why so few people use it.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Grumbs on August 23, 2012, 10:42:12 pm
How about the 2 handed axes, especially 2 Handed War Axe for the price and Persian Battle Axe for damage

Boar spear is basically a war spear for 1.2k
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: isatis on August 23, 2012, 10:50:16 pm
the 2h persian war axe

i mean I saw ONE people in all my crpg life using it...

and it own!
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Post by: XyNox on August 23, 2012, 10:51:05 pm
I dont see a lot swiss halberds but I absolutely love it, great weapon, cool style.
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Post by: Peasant_Woman on August 23, 2012, 10:51:44 pm
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The medieval baseball bat.
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Post by: Aseplhood on August 23, 2012, 10:57:15 pm
Nordic Sword I say :D
Epic weapon - low upkeep. Everything you need. What are you waiting for?

Here (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=marketplacetrade&id=265714) it is on the marketplace. Some guy is selling this for pathetic price of 359k o_o

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Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Leshma on August 23, 2012, 11:00:01 pm
Boar spear is basically a war spear for 1.2k

Not really.

War spear isn't anything special either. Ashwood pike is the real deal.
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Post by: Kaelaen on August 23, 2012, 11:08:06 pm
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The medieval baseball bat.

Oh god I love that thing.  People don't expect the right swing knockdown spam.

Then you tell 'em "Outta the park!" whenever you kill them ^_^

-idlewind
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Weewum on August 23, 2012, 11:16:05 pm
Italian Falchion, Flanged Mace and Soldiers Cleaver
:D
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Post by: Sandersson Jankins on August 23, 2012, 11:16:49 pm
Military scythe. It's shorter than hell, but it's got pierce damage and weird animations. People don't know how to deal with it. Very useful against greatswords.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Kirbies on August 23, 2012, 11:18:32 pm
Try going STR crutch with a 2h cudgel and facehug/feint spamming. GG
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Post by: Gurnisson on August 23, 2012, 11:22:16 pm
Forgot to mention the practice lance. It's actually a really solid weapon for a joke of a price.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: TugBoat on August 23, 2012, 11:22:31 pm
Try going STR crutch with a 2h cudgel and facehug/feint spamming. GG

I'm TugBOAT. I know how this works ! :p
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: San on August 23, 2012, 11:23:09 pm
Liuyedao

Winged Mace (almost like an iberian mace in stats (faster, too), looks very nonthreatening in comparison to it)
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Kirbies on August 23, 2012, 11:23:53 pm
I'm TugBOAT. I know how this works ! :p
Well if you're gunna blow off advice then you can go tug my boat!  :mad:

(Not dirty at all, i swear)
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: isatis on August 23, 2012, 11:26:15 pm
Forgot to mention the practice lance. It's actually a really solid weapon for a joke of a price.

all my lvl 1 to 15 are passed using this marvel

very funny when you get noticed at lvl 3 by a big tin can for you are annoying as hell! (and your wep loooks AWESOME)

oh god now I wanna have one loomed NOW

Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Equal on August 23, 2012, 11:29:23 pm
The Arabian Cav Sword probably isn't underrated and is more commonly seen but I don't see if very often. It's the longest 1h (meaning it's perfect for 1h Cav) and it has a nice ghost reach that I always have trouble readjusting from when I retire. :P
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Miley on August 23, 2012, 11:31:21 pm
At least try to spell thigns rite...
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: TugBoat on August 23, 2012, 11:32:17 pm
The Arabian Cav Sword probably isn't underrated and is more commonly seen but I don't see if very often. It's the longest 1h (meaning it's perfect for 1h Cav) and it has a nice ghost reach that I always have trouble readjusting from when I retire. :P

My favorite for 1h duels when not against tin cans
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: rustyspoon on August 23, 2012, 11:34:49 pm
Great Long Bardiche. It's simply an epic weapon. Slow but hits hard, unbalanced but stun enemies block. Dunno why so few people use it.

If you stack a bunch of WM with it, it becomes pretty damn fast too. I used to love stunlocking people with it. Ah, good times.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Jarlek on August 23, 2012, 11:53:33 pm
OP. Why are you talking about the Great Bardiche when the Bardiche is so much more badass AND more underrated? You can use that motherfucker on a horse! I fucking love the bardiche :D
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Apsod on August 23, 2012, 11:55:07 pm
At least try to spell thigns rite...
Oh, the irony!
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Post by: sF_Guardian on August 23, 2012, 11:58:03 pm
Boar Spear and Practice Lance.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Spanish on August 24, 2012, 12:00:25 am
Long iron mace aka nipple or onion mace a very good blunt 2h weapon with slightly lesser stats than he bar mace for an unreasonably low upkeep price. Even comes with a thrust
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Snoozer on August 24, 2012, 12:17:54 am
Cudgel/torch/sickle/staffs in general.

cudgel/qstaff/practice swords/scythe are godly

flanged mace is under rated

LHB is underrated

what else um

throwing melee is underrated but the throw hammer/heavy axe are beast yet short

maul/mallet and pretty much any unbalanced weapon(people act like there tainted or something idk)
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on August 24, 2012, 12:23:58 am
Arabian Guard Sword. It's surrounded by "superior" swords but it's really not that bad at all. It's range and speed seem to make it pretty ideal for chambering and it looks boss.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Dan lol on August 24, 2012, 12:25:48 am
abortion stick all day errday
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Digglez on August 24, 2012, 12:48:47 am
None of the weapons on the list are underrated or underused (save for cudgel, which is more of a joke weapon), they are all GOOD solid weapons that are seen frequently.

Flanged Mace/Spiked mace and Throwing Daggers are all very solid and fairly rare on the battlefield.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: TugBoat on August 24, 2012, 12:54:30 am
None of the weapons on the list are underrated or underused (save for cudgel, which is more of a joke weapon), they are all GOOD solid weapons that are seen frequently.

Flanged Mace/Spiked mace and Throwing Daggers are all very solid and fairly rare on the battlefield.

Not a joke weapon. I will duel anyone in your clan with cudgel!
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Bjord on August 24, 2012, 01:02:46 am
Not a joke weapon. I will duel anyone in your clan with cudgel!

When are you going to duel me :wink:? 300k and title of Protector of <insert continent abbreviation> on the line.

If I recall correctly, 10 rounds on EU, 10 rounds on NA.

Only available until 6.30 PM weekdays. :)
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Snoozer on August 24, 2012, 01:16:53 am
None of the weapons on the list are underrated or underused (save for cudgel, which is more of a joke weapon), they are all GOOD solid weapons that are seen frequently.

Flanged Mace/Spiked mace and Throwing Daggers are all very solid and fairly rare on the battlefield.

cudgel a joke weapon?

cudgel was the staple of the strat 3 peasant wars

MONTHS N MONTHS of cudgel/rock/scythe wars were fought!
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Taser on August 24, 2012, 02:18:23 am
None of the weapons on the list are underrated or underused (save for cudgel, which is more of a joke weapon), they are all GOOD solid weapons that are seen frequently.

Flanged Mace/Spiked mace and Throwing Daggers are all very solid and fairly rare on the battlefield.

O rly?

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Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Snoozer on August 24, 2012, 06:43:02 am
O rly?

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indeeeeeeeed yes
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Post by: Digglez on August 24, 2012, 07:26:47 am
O rly?

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could have done much better with a real weapon. your SS doesnt prove much, especially on siege
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Taser on August 24, 2012, 07:48:47 am
could have done much better with a real weapon. your SS doesnt prove much, especially on siege

Fair enough.

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Cudgel's a fun wep though and actually does decent damage. It definitely doesn't measure up to many weapons that are much more powerful but it can be useful in the right hands. Plus the knockdown is amazing.
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Post by: Tore on August 24, 2012, 08:00:04 am
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Fast, deadly, long and like no upkeep :D
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Post by: Vibe on August 24, 2012, 10:37:11 am
Dadao, I rarely see someone using it. It's amazing for it's price.
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Post by: Teeth on August 24, 2012, 11:37:54 am
German Poleaxe underrated? Dafuq is wrong with you people? It's the best infantry weapon in the game. Amazing cut damage as well as amazing pierce damage, combined with average speed and average length and a good bit of hard to determine reach because of the spike on top.
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Post by: Arathian on August 24, 2012, 11:58:09 am
Not exactly underrated, but why do so few people use a bar mace? The bloody thing is amazing, cheap and knocks people down very easily.
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Post by: isatis on August 25, 2012, 04:46:41 am
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yep : I mean... it's too cool but yet NOBODY use it... sigh...

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Post by: San on August 25, 2012, 05:58:34 am
German Poleaxe underrated? Dafuq is wrong with you people? It's the best infantry weapon in the game. Amazing cut damage as well as amazing pierce damage, combined with average speed and average length and a good bit of hard to determine reach because of the spike on top.

The poll is a joke but the discussion involved is legitimate.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on August 25, 2012, 06:11:37 am
Long maul?

No one uses it, but it's got crushthrough, high damage, and its long. Not sure if underrated, or just too gay to be used.
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Post by: SirProto on August 25, 2012, 06:19:54 am
War darts! :mrgreen:

3 more ammo per stack than Javelins and only 8 less damage. Plus they're great when you hit 7PT.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Haragh on August 25, 2012, 06:25:02 am
WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK IS MOST UNDERRATED WEAPON?
Everything shorter then 120.. :)
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Post by: To Kill A Dead Horse on August 25, 2012, 07:48:05 am
The long vougle was vastly underrated when it was a 4D weapon, now the only thing it has is an over-head, and maybe a stab against cav.
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Post by: Gawin on August 25, 2012, 07:49:55 am
definitely military scythe... its almost a poleaxe for a fraction of the cost

Military Scythe
upkeep:233 gold
Speed:89
Length:155
Thrust:23 pierce
Swing:32 cut

Poleaxe
upkeep:1,012 gold
Speed:89
Length:141
Thrust:31 pierce
Swing:40 cut
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Snoozer on August 25, 2012, 08:48:49 am
Long maul?

No one uses it, but it's got crushthrough, high damage, and its long. Not sure if underrated, or just too gay to be used.


the long maul was nerfed to kingdom come im afraid...

even the most veteran player and trolly of trolls alike can only use it for so long with out raging or being depressed
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Post by: killnaboy on August 25, 2012, 10:42:21 am
what is secondary mode of poleaxe?
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Post by: Riddaren on August 25, 2012, 12:19:12 pm
 (+3) Fauchard is the most underrated.

- Longest sheatable weapon
- Side swings
- Can be used from horseback
- Stops horses
- 7 str requirement
- 175 gold upkeep
- 25 pierce (+3)
- 32 cut (+3)
- 91 speed (+3)
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on August 25, 2012, 12:20:32 pm
Flanged Mace

Damnit stole my idea!
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Post by: Rebelyell on August 25, 2012, 03:18:35 pm
what Poleaxe is doing on that list????
Poleaxe is an ultimate weapon, from EU1 point of vive probably the best weapon
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Mighty Poleaxe
Type:Polearm
Requirement:17 strength
Weight:3.4
Slots:2
Upkeep:1,012 gold
Speed:90
Length:141
Thrust:33 pierce
Swing:43 cut
Bonus against shield
Secondary mode



Perfect weapon
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Fartface on August 25, 2012, 09:20:34 pm
Dadao, I rarely see someone using it. It's amazing for it's price.
I got an mw one!
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: dreadnok on August 25, 2012, 09:29:47 pm
niuedao or whatever it is
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Post by: godhanger on August 26, 2012, 11:07:32 pm
implying long dagger doesn't hold first place.
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Post by: owens on August 27, 2012, 11:56:06 am
goedendag isn't really too underrated when you use it you must pause as often as possible the heavier the 2H the slower the first part of its animation and the faster the second part. It  has 117reach? which makes it the longest blunt 2h and combined with the effect pausing has on damage bonus and knockdown chance this thing is unbeatable 1 on 1, but... it loses out in ganks. 


The most underrated weapon must be the jousting lance or the club.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: oprah_winfrey on August 27, 2012, 05:13:10 pm
As weird as it is to say, I think the flamberge is somewhat underrated. Whenever I use it, people always just assume they can spam me and wind up taking a 49c (MW) right swing to the brain.
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Post by: Swaggart on August 27, 2012, 05:54:35 pm
Pre turn speed nerf I would've said the Swiss Halberd. It's still viable with a balanced or high agi build but it's definitely not what it was before (a slightly weaker Awlpike with a punishing overhead with shield breaking bonus).
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Cyclopsided on August 27, 2012, 06:53:12 pm
Scythe. I really want a +3 one. I also want a +3 sumpter, but I'm realistic that I won't get the two things I desire...

So, Why scythe?
Longest side swing in the game. Everyone thinks they can spam you and get fucking wrecked.
second Longest horseback weapon. That's right. It is only outreached by heavy lance by 8. which with good timing...

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Post by: BranStark on August 27, 2012, 11:22:13 pm
Great Long Bardiche. It's simply an epic weapon. Slow but hits hard, unbalanced but stun enemies block. Dunno why so few people use it.

Yes. GLB is fucking awesome. I performed my best I ever have when using that weapon with a 24/12 build. Omg I miss it so much...
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Post by: Kirbyy on September 03, 2012, 08:17:20 am
Khyber knife, took out 5 people in the past 20 minutes.  Lol, you should try it.
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Post by: Riddaren on September 03, 2012, 09:37:28 pm
Scythe. I really want a +3 one. I also want a +3 sumpter, but I'm realistic that I won't get the two things I desire...

So, Why scythe?
Longest side swing in the game. Everyone thinks they can spam you and get fucking wrecked.
second Longest horseback weapon. That's right. It is only outreached by heavy lance by 8. which with good timing...

Fauchard has 8 more thrust, 1 more swing damage, 6 more speed, is sheatable and only 10 shorter than scythe.
I think it's a better choice both on ground and from horseback.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Joseph Porta on September 03, 2012, 11:37:20 pm
what is secondary mode of poleaxe?
blunt dmg/ knockdown(not sure about the knockdown though..)

Flanged mace is great yet I never see it, as stated a billion times before, i use it on one of my alts, great weapon. :)

Poleaxe  :lol: easiest polearm to play with, it's spammy as hell for its length aswell.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: 3 Tears on September 04, 2012, 12:16:43 pm
Dadao, I rarely see someone using it. It's amazing for it's price.
this!!! Got it +3)
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Post by: dorvalis on September 04, 2012, 01:44:47 pm
most underrated weapon is +3 danish greatsword i think i am one of the only players using it!
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Zanze on September 04, 2012, 03:36:35 pm
Light Lance (as hoplite, not cav).
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Post by: agweber on September 04, 2012, 10:49:45 pm
I've been loving the Fauchard. It's side-swing reach is pretty awesome, though often enough I'll teamwound allies as the swing continues behind me. Damn thing's like helicopter blades if you swing like crazy. Damn cheap too!
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Mechanix on September 05, 2012, 01:58:09 am
Heavy Bastard Sword
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on September 05, 2012, 03:08:19 am
Light Lance (as hoplite, not cav).

Light lance is the only lance I can stand using without my horse. The overhead works great against people who smugly hold down-block as you come up to them. Masterwork has 30 pierce thrust, 91 speed, 175 length. It's like a deadlier bamboo spear. Also the upkeep compared to a heavy lance is nice.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Joseph Porta on September 05, 2012, 12:25:54 pm
I was playing yesterday and it hit me that the very weapon I use, next to a billion other weapons, is véry underrated, the Heavy Great Sword! Great weapon, imo, and an EPIC look!
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Post by: dodnet on September 05, 2012, 03:35:58 pm
Light lance is the only lance I can stand using without my horse. The overhead works great against people who smugly hold down-block as you come up to them. Masterwork has 30 pierce thrust, 91 speed, 175 length. It's like a deadlier bamboo spear. Also the upkeep compared to a heavy lance is nice.

MW has 31 pierce  :wink:

Its my favourite weapon (as inf, without shield :P ) because it looks cool and is quite good. A lot of cav also underestimate it's reach which makes it a good anticav weapon too. And I alway have a grin on my face if I kill someone with an overhead swing of my beloved Light Lance  8-)
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Templar_Steevee on September 05, 2012, 10:12:08 pm
hand axe
mw is just op. 104 speed, 31 cut dmg, 0 slots.
it's short, but great on siege and imo best weapon for archers, only 70 gold upkeep. cav should use it as a side weapon
 
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: Turboflex on September 05, 2012, 10:17:57 pm
I feel like Bec is underrated now. I know they used to be a faddish weapon and then were nerfed a bit, and now nobody seems to use on NA, but a +3 still does 37 pierce which is very very high. An AGI char with 5-6 PS can use that to lay a lopt of hurt.
Title: Re: Most underrated weapons?
Post by: TurmoilTom on September 05, 2012, 10:23:55 pm
I feel like Bec is underrated now. I know they used to be a faddish weapon and then were nerfed a bit, and now nobody seems to use on NA, but a +3 still does 37 pierce which is very very high. An AGI char with 5-6 PS can use that to lay a lopt of hurt.

Nice advertisement. (http://forum.meleegaming.com/selltrade/wts-3-bec/)
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Post by: Turboflex on September 05, 2012, 10:37:37 pm
gahaha
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Post by: Macropus on September 05, 2012, 11:10:51 pm
Long Berdiche. It's shorter than Great Long Berdiche, so i'm not sure if 140 length is enough to rear horses, also -1 of cut damage, but...
It's not unbalanced! The only balanced berdiche in the game. Awesome.

Edit: it doesn't rear horses... sad.  :(