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Strategus => Strategus Issues => Topic started by: Mike_of_Kingswell on August 21, 2012, 09:18:06 pm

Title: Strategus Archery
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on August 21, 2012, 09:18:06 pm
Just some things I noticed during the Grey Order vs NeutralCastle fight:

-Maybe it is just useing the longbow but i did not notice the speed buff for archery much. It was faster than normal but not by much.

-The +10% damage boost did not show up everytime a archer came close to me and did not seem to work properly? Never seen more than +20% either. And i think the range for this bonus seems to be a little bit low. Archers are not supposed to stand right next o eachother...feels too much like some kind of wierd line battle stuff.

-What is it with the accuracy? "magical winds" discribe it perfectly: Arrows do wierd moves while in flight. I shot an arrow and it did a midair 75° left turn out of nowhere. Last I knew accuracy was not to be changed by the update (right?) but there is for sure something wrong about it.

For the moment i feel like strategus archery got nerfed a little bit to hard.
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: Harpag on August 21, 2012, 09:26:58 pm
For the moment i feel like strategus archery got nerfed a little bit to hard.
+1
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: Rebelyell on August 21, 2012, 09:47:54 pm
There is never to hard nerf for archery.

Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: Gurnisson on August 21, 2012, 09:49:08 pm
Revert all changes, remove arrow stagger. Fixed. 8-)
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on August 22, 2012, 12:00:21 am
Revert all changes, remove arrow stagger. Fixed. 8-)

 :!: <3  :!:
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: Aderyn on August 22, 2012, 12:38:34 am
revert all changes, keep it as it was.

Noone is dying as it is. Not even from headshots.
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: Everkistus on August 22, 2012, 07:20:35 am
Arrowstun has its place in the world, don't know why it should be removed.

I also played in the battle, and archery was absolutely useless. I got more kills with my 2 PS onehander than archery because all my arrows went absolutely wonky after leaving the bow, they either flew straight or were all over the place. This actually encouraged me to do legolas-style playing where I'd run among melee and pop quick shots with no aim. Not sure if the devs had this in mind, but it's pretty much the only useful way to use a bow atm in strategus.
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: Strudog on August 22, 2012, 09:25:22 am
yep totally useless, plus arrows were going through the enemys, for one example my arrow went through an enemy and killed my teammate on the other side who was just about to back stab the guy, Archery was definitely nerfed too hard
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on August 22, 2012, 10:20:45 am
I would prefer the nerf to just not effect aderyn, but I'm liking what it's doing to the rest of you >:D
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: serr on August 22, 2012, 10:34:22 am
Revert all changes, make bows and arrows much more expensive for strat.
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: Templar_Steevee on August 22, 2012, 10:48:27 am
You decrease Dmg, ok I can understand it.
You mekes some + 10 to 20% dmg when archers stay in group, a bit stupid idea, but ok.
But what have you done to arrows flying in the air is bullshit.
They are going through enemies and always hitting my teammates. I was wandering are my arrows going to turn back and hit me :(
There is nothing realism in arrows flying in the air in strat.
For me it looks like arrows are doing everything but not hitting enemies. It looks like every enemy has a force field protecting him form arrows.
Surviving headshots from longbow in medium weight helmet from dostance less tan 5 meters is a joke.

That nerf is too hard imo, but ill stand it if you remove "magic winds" and arrows going through enemies
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on August 22, 2012, 01:30:30 pm
gravitiy rocks are real nowadays :(
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: Mayzer on August 22, 2012, 02:42:41 pm
And here I was thinking that I just started sucking!

Yes, my arrows seem to have a mind of their own now, and not in the cool homing missile way either.
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: Bulzur on August 22, 2012, 02:57:13 pm
-The +10% damage boost did not show up everytime a archer came close to me and did not seem to work properly? Never seen more than +20% either. And i think the range for this bonus seems to be a little bit low. Archers are not supposed to stand right next o eachother...feels too much like some kind of wierd line battle stuff.

Actually, this +X0% is shown after each of your shots has hit something.
It's not like shielders, showing every X seconds.

I was very proud of myself, having 2 kills and a succesfull dozens of arrows hitting people or horsies (mw bodkins with mw rusbow) while staying with a teammate most of the time (+10%) out of 34 arrows, while not having lost any life. Then i looked at my score. Couldn't find it, had to scroll down : 26. I was in the bottom 15 players. Nice thing with 6 PD and 8 WM... i didn't found myself useless at all...

I then got shot by an xbow. 10% life remaining.


Please remind me why i'm still sticking with archery even though xbow tends to always get the carrot, while archers get the stick ?
Because i'm excellent at killing horses and cav with an hornbow ? Come on, it's my main, for strat, there's no horses out there. Or else we attack a castle. So ?
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: oprah_winfrey on August 22, 2012, 03:32:03 pm
I have only played one real strat battle (where one team wasnt peasants) since the patch and archery didn't seem nerfed at all. Infact a few times I took over 50% of my health from one arrow while wearing 50 body armor (with 24str 4 IF)
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on August 22, 2012, 06:59:40 pm
Actually, this +X0% is shown after each of your shots has hit something.
It's not like shielders, showing every X seconds.
Noticed this in last startbattle. Did not know it before but I am fine with it.

Thought from last startbattle:

-Arrows still seem to do what they want
-noticed the +x0% dmg thing but its range is too limited...archers have to stand right next to eachother and can be easiely fucked up by cav/ranged like that...
-dmg seems really low...

I could stand the dmg nerf...but combined with the accuaracy nerf its just too much

Noticed that a lot of former archers not spec'd to cav...dont like it
Title: Re: Strategus Archery
Post by: Strudog on August 22, 2012, 09:20:20 pm
Strat has now become a cav fest, since arrows do next to no damage to horses and thus can run free through lines of archers and infantry, well donre edevs you may have mad people respec but now we have a cav problem