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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Shrugging Khan on August 19, 2012, 10:11:41 pm

Title: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: Shrugging Khan on August 19, 2012, 10:11:41 pm
Recently, I've been thinking about this some.

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Shortened Military Scythe
Two-Handed Weapon

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weapon length: 112
weight: 2.2
difficulty: 10
speed rating: 90
weapon length: 112
thrust damage: 27 pierce
swing damage: 39 cut
slots: 2

It has the best thrust damage of all Two-Handers, and it's rather cheap. Apart from that, it's roundly inferior to the greatswords in all other stats.

BUT! It has a special thrust animation; essentially half-swording. Similar to that of the Langes Messer.

So I wonder. Does that particularity in the thrust give it an advantage? Does it enlarge the thrust hitbox, or does it decrease its range? Does it make the thrust faster or slower? Anything else?

Input, please.
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: Tydeus on August 19, 2012, 10:14:19 pm
It's the polearm thrust animation that it uses and it makes it worse, which is why it also has 27p.
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: Sagar on August 19, 2012, 10:35:44 pm
I have +3 Shortened Military Scythe, and it is great weapon. Cheap and deadly, but I recommended you 24/15 build for this weapon. I like polearm animation for this weapon, because a lot of times opponent does not expect that, and with 29 thr it is a instant death.
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: Rantrex on August 19, 2012, 10:40:48 pm
Pole instastab possible with this?

I tried sms, but thrust was very hard to perform 'til opponent had really short weapon.
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: Shrugging Khan on August 19, 2012, 10:51:02 pm
I find that it certainly does have a psychological advantage - most people are utterly incapable of correctly judging its length and speed.

But as to all else...does the animation truly make it worse? How so?
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 19, 2012, 11:03:53 pm
Pole instastab possible with this?
You are aware polearm stab sorta sucks, right?
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: Braeden on August 19, 2012, 11:06:16 pm
I rather like this weapon, but it isn't by any means truly good when compared to something actually made for non peasant combat.

Its fun and cheap though.  Just slow.
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: HardRice on August 19, 2012, 11:08:17 pm
With a skip the fun character, this weapon is extremely viable. (10k gold only goes so far.)
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: Shrugging Khan on August 19, 2012, 11:10:29 pm
So what's the problem with the pole stab?
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: HardRice on August 19, 2012, 11:16:44 pm
So what's the problem with the pole stab?

It's generally shorter, I would assume?
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: Shrugging Khan on August 20, 2012, 12:14:45 am
It's generally shorter, I would assume?
But faster? Or maybe it has an easier-to-handle hitbox? It can't be all worse!
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 20, 2012, 12:31:02 am
The polearm stab is WAY shorter, same speed (I think) doesn't have an endless active animation, can't be used facehug distance any more than the 2h stab.
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: HardRice on August 20, 2012, 01:12:26 am
The polearm stab is WAY shorter, same speed (I think) doesn't have an endless active animation, can't be used facehug distance any more than the 2h stab.

This exactly.

Still a wonderful weapon.
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: Kirbies on August 20, 2012, 01:14:29 am
Yeah it is easily a great weapon for its price. Fun to use too!
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: Smoothrich on August 20, 2012, 04:10:39 am
polestab glances less at facehug range and is overall faster (chambers faster but releases slower than 2hander balancing out to be slightly faster if i recall), just shorter

the shortened military scythe is 90 speed which is god awful for a 2hander which is the main reason it sucks, its just clumsy to use like a flamberge without the troll factor of the flamberge.  great weapon to use on horseback though for cheap, and a good leeching/rageball weapon
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: TurmoilTom on August 20, 2012, 04:12:22 am
Favorite 2h cav weapon.

MORNINGSTAR IS TOO MAINSTREAM!
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: SixThumbs on August 20, 2012, 05:05:17 am
What's the troll factor of the flameberge? I use it to good effect for the most part, the slowness actually helps with circling and getting around blocks.
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: owens on August 20, 2012, 05:19:10 am
It is not a good weapon i will safely declare that it is worse than the practice longsword.
Title: Re: Shortened Military Scythe
Post by: Teeth on August 20, 2012, 10:24:17 am
This weapon is amazing for its price. Polearm stab has its uses, not sure how exactly polearm stab and 2h stab compare since they messed with the stabs. It is faster though and can insta-hit on facehug range.