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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Leshma on August 12, 2012, 01:36:59 am

Title: Before you make the mistake
Post by: Leshma on August 12, 2012, 01:36:59 am
It's not balance topic because it's just speculation, but this can have huge impact on gameplay.

First, let me tell you about strength melee builds. They are completely unbalanced and the most noob friendly thing this mod has to offer. They completely change somewhat realistic mod into battle of armored suits, like Mechwarrior or Armored Core series. They are moving slowly, they swing slowly but in slow mod like cRPG is these days, they have way more advantages than bad things about them. Few glances and lucky chamber here and there and random noob will seem godlike in full plate, using full str build and a twohanded weapon.

After a long time you finally realized that strength builds are OP so you decided to make some changes. Based on what I read, you're going to create counter class, actually that will be return of old cRPG high wpp spammer.

Analogy to what you're going to do is this: there is a huge fire, eating everything in it's path. To stop it you're going to create a tsunami to extinguish the fire.

Instead of having one bullshit build, we'll have two bullshit builds. Full agi build is in right place atm, amount of players who use that is super tiny which is normal because it's extreme build. Strength build aren't where they should be. In most cases I'm against nerfs, but that's the only way to fix str builds because they don't belong in game like Warband.

Your solution isn't going to fix anything, it's just going to create more problems. It will be nerf to hybrids and builds most people use atm, you're going to force people to stack wpf but that won't decrease number of strength builds that much. Results will be a lot of no skill, low ping spammers which is the same thing as high str noobs.
Title: Re: Before you make the mistake
Post by: Arathian on August 12, 2012, 01:41:38 am
>all the classes that I don't play are for noobs

Try hitting anything with a maul mr. Cavalry and come tell me who is the noob.
Title: Re: Before you make the mistake
Post by: Leshma on August 12, 2012, 01:43:00 am
Actually, last 3 months I've been playing various classes using different armors. I wasn't playing cavarly for long, though.

Also, if you can't utilize obvious potential str builds have that doesn't mean those builds suck. It means you don't know how to play them.
Title: Re: Before you make the mistake
Post by: justme on August 12, 2012, 01:49:09 am
let me tell u about agi whores then..
they can easily choose which battle to fight, sneak to most opponents, dodge ranged and couche more easily, attack and block faster, get better speed bonus, not to mention that wpf gives u damage..

one time i saw ninja blocking on the ground after being knocked down by horse... str need more time to stand and block, something like 2 free hits for enemies nearby
Title: Re: Before you make the mistake
Post by: Leshma on August 12, 2012, 01:51:59 am
You can't tell me anything about agi builds because I've never seen you playing as one.

And agi build don't block faster, the fact that you believe they do just shows how much you know about this mod.
Title: Re: Before you make the mistake
Post by: Bazinga on August 12, 2012, 01:54:41 am
For FUCK sake. All these threads about this or that being OP, just fucking get along with it. The most OP thing in this mod is and will ever be pure personal skill.

So please for the love of this mod, stop bragging about so much stuff being OP.
Title: Re: Before you make the mistake
Post by: Casimir on August 12, 2012, 01:55:20 am
Buff 2h cav
Title: Re: Before you make the mistake
Post by: Leshma on August 12, 2012, 01:56:56 am
For FUCK sake. All these threads about this or that being OP, just fucking get along with it. The most OP thing in this mod is and will ever be pure personal skill.

So please for the love of this mod, stop bragging about so much stuff being OP.

It's about upcoming change that might be bad for this mod like some before and which will never be fixed.
Title: Re: Before you make the mistake
Post by: Butan on August 12, 2012, 01:59:55 am
I though we were friends  :cry:



WPF patch should get rid of most str builds without having to go all 3/36 agi to counter them I think  :)
Title: Re: Before you make the mistake
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 12, 2012, 02:03:31 am
For FUCK sake. All these threads about this or that being OP, just fucking get along with it. The most OP thing in this mod is and will ever be pure personal skill.

So please for the love of this mod, stop bragging about so much stuff being OP.
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Title: Re: Before you make the mistake
Post by: Leshma on August 12, 2012, 02:06:23 am
Too soon.

Forums will be full of it when few days after "that" patch.