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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Protection on August 08, 2012, 11:51:52 am

Title: Roman Gear?
Post by: Protection on August 08, 2012, 11:51:52 am
Come on people what do you think, should this mod have more Roman gear? Shields, Body Armour, Helmets?

It would be nice to have a little bit more diversity. Leave a comment explaining why.

As you may already know we have many Japanese and European Armour sets, It would be nice if cRPG had some more Armour and weapons.

Of course we have the Red Roman Helmets and Other roman helmets but when have you actually seen a roman wear those?

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And if chadz said there will never be Roman gear why the hell do we have jacked up roman helmets?
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Bjord on August 08, 2012, 11:54:44 am
Oh it's that retard that accused EyeBeat of random shit so people would join his TS.

Also, no. chadz has stated once, long ago, that there will NEVER be Greek/Roman/Ancient stuff.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Protection on August 08, 2012, 11:56:04 am
Quote from: Bjord on August 08, 2012, 11:54:44 am
Oh it's that retard that accused EyeBeat of random shit so people would join his TS.

Also, no. chadz has stated once, long ago, that there will NEVER be Greek/Roman/Ancient stuff.

Maybe you should ask Eyebeat about that situation, and also there is Japanese gear which is Ancient. Good argument tho.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Bjord on August 08, 2012, 12:00:57 pm
Maybe you should stop pretending that you are not a snake.

Also, you just convinced me of being a retard. Japanese armour existed all the way to the 19th century, that includes the middle ages. Feudal Japan ring a bell? Ancient armours didn't, hence why they are ANCIENT.

Typical uneducated American, why am I not surprised. :lol:


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Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Miwiw on August 08, 2012, 12:05:34 pm
Never--
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Protection on August 08, 2012, 12:09:35 pm
Bjord, just stop flaming threads. Turns out you're the typical troll. I don't go to every thread and try to flame a topic, I support more Armour for this Mod

what you think about Americans is completely off topic.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Bjord on August 08, 2012, 12:27:38 pm
Wow, you are even more stupid than I imagined. Those helmets are of the Eastern Romans, aka Byzantine Roman helmets, which were the heirs of the old Roman Empire. You think Romans only existed in Rome? :lol:
Sorry pal, but Hollywood is not a valid source of reference.

If anyone is a troll, it's you. :wink:
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Vibe on August 08, 2012, 01:06:37 pm
You do realize the current Roman gear that is in is from the Byzantine era / middle ages (up to 1400) and I reckon the Roman gear you're asking for is from the ancient Roman era (around year 0). So what you're asking is that we should have gear in the game that is over 1000 years apart from the historical ages cRPG sticks to.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Strudog on August 08, 2012, 01:12:33 pm
for the First tiem i agree with Bjord, this gam is set in the middle ages and not in ancient times.

Btw add New Saracen and crusader armours
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: sF_Guardian on August 08, 2012, 02:06:10 pm
This fuckin suggestion is older than fuckin Christ goddammn  :mad:
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Fartface on August 08, 2012, 02:17:14 pm
I aprove.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Shieldoom on August 08, 2012, 03:14:17 pm
I want lightsabers... why can't we have lightsabers? Fuck era restrictions
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Teeth on August 08, 2012, 03:30:42 pm
Your arguments for adding roman armor are solid, rofl.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Korgoth on August 08, 2012, 09:13:55 pm
He thought those Helmets were Ancient Roman. ROFL...

I bet he wonders why the Holy Roman Empire are not wearing them.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Havoco on August 08, 2012, 09:51:46 pm
Quote from: Bjord on August 08, 2012, 12:00:57 pm
Maybe you should stop pretending that you are not a snake.

Also, you just convinced me of being a retard. Japanese armour existed all the way to the 19th century, that includes the middle ages. Feudal Japan ring a bell? Ancient armours didn't, hence why they are ANCIENT.

Typical uneducated American, why am I not surprised. :lol:


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How is he american when he spells armor with a u?
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on August 09, 2012, 12:58:20 am
Please necro old threads instead of adding to the pile... unless of course your posting in the realism thread then you can go bananas.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Bjord on August 09, 2012, 01:06:15 am
Quote from: Havoco on August 08, 2012, 09:51:46 pm
How is he american when he spells armor with a u?

Good point. But that doesn't make him less intellectually challenged, I'm afraid. :)
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 09, 2012, 01:35:39 am
Quote from: Protection on August 08, 2012, 11:51:52 am
Of course we have the Red Roman Helmets and Other roman helmets but when have you actually seen a roman wear those?

Well time for a quick constructive post...

Those helmets are Roman, specifically from the Eastern Roman Empire, also known as the Byzantine Empire, (After the split, the Western Roman Empire fell after being saddled with all of the invasions/foreigners while lacking the rich resources of the ERE). The ERE remained a significant power due to the Queen of Cities with unmatched walls and wealth (Konstantinopolis or Constantinople now known as Istanbul) renown for controlling both of the two land paths required for Europe to trade with the east, (one of which the Queen of Cities literally stood on, as well as controlling the vast majority of all major sea routes.). The ERE lasted until the mid 15th century, falling mainly not due to military or economic fault but rather a long decline of political infighting which weakened the state via forced inaction (hence where the term "Byzantine Politics" arose.)

All of the current roman gear is from the ERE, and if you are not aware of the Eastern Roman Empire then I highly recommend that you look it up, for it is one of many critical cultures that has influenced most major historical events which have shaped the modern world, as well as being utterly fascinating.


As for the Japanese remarks, the armor used in-game resembles that commonly used even around the same era as the later part of the ERE, when gunpowder was starting to be a common sight on the battlefield.

I humbly suggest that the Original Poster brush up on some ancient history, and even Medieval and Renaissance era history (Primarily focusing on Europe and Asia), as you will learn a great many interesting things. An often overlooked bit from the western world is teachings about Eastern Europe, I suggest you start there.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Bjord on August 09, 2012, 03:13:05 am
As much as I admire you for that post, ToD, I am afraid that he will not fully grasp the favour that has been bestowed to him.

Anyway, I think the Byzantine Empire is one of the most, if not THE most interesting medieval super powers ever. Shame they got crushed by Seljuk Turks, later known as Ottoman Empire.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Shik on August 09, 2012, 04:38:21 am
To be honest the sacking of Constantinople in the fourth crusade probably did more damage than anything the Turks ever did. Not to mention the fact that the Byzantines probably did more damage to themselves in their repeated civil wars than by Turkish invaders.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Tibe on August 09, 2012, 06:12:04 am
Quote from: Protection on August 08, 2012, 11:51:52 am
Come on people what do you think, should this mod have more Roman gear? Shields, Body Armour, Helmets?

It would be nice to have a little bit more diversity. Leave a comment explaining why.

As you may already know we have many Japanese and European Armour sets, It would be nice if cRPG had some more Armour and weapons.

Of course we have the Red Roman Helmets and Other roman helmets but when have you actually seen a roman wear those?

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And if chadz said there will never be Roman gear why the hell do we have jacked up roman helmets?

You really tought these helmets were ancient roman? And you called the samurai stuff ancient, thou samurais still exsisted even in the 19th century? Clearly shows you dont know jack about history. Pick up a book before you start talking dirt about the devs boy.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Oberyn on August 09, 2012, 02:28:09 pm
Quote from: Shik on August 09, 2012, 04:38:21 am
To be honest the sacking of Constantinople in the fourth crusade probably did more damage than anything the Turks ever did. Not to mention the fact that the Byzantines probably did more damage to themselves in their repeated civil wars than by Turkish invaders.

The constant conflict with Persia is what weakened the Byz to the point that they were extremely vulnerable to muslim expansion in the first place. And vice versa.
And that's not counting the countless slavic incursions into the Balkans.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: matt2507 on August 09, 2012, 03:05:46 pm

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Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Spa_geh_tea on August 09, 2012, 06:14:14 pm
Central American weapons and armor please.

 Fits the time period.

Maybe some African and south east asia?

Trolololololl.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Miwiw on August 09, 2012, 06:16:24 pm
Quote from: Spa_geh_tea on August 09, 2012, 06:14:14 pm
Central American weapons and armor please.
Ye cause it makes sense to let Europeans fight some Central American guys if they didnt even know anything about America. :D
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Spa_geh_tea on August 09, 2012, 06:26:42 pm
So, they were present. Should be accounted for with as just as much purpose as weabos.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: owens on August 10, 2012, 07:25:08 am
I would love to see mauri or Polynesians fighting Vikings. The more cultures and styles the better.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Gamerofthegame on August 10, 2012, 08:15:30 am
Why not? It doesn't have to be realistic - Who cares, honestly?

"Oh no, my game of random mish mash of people with has people from different eras. It doesn't have to be weaker, it can have the same stats of some other armor and just look the part. Let people play to some theme other then "Europeans, vaguely Crusaders and Japanese in black armor". We have a few Roman-themed clans running around, give them some gear.

But.

Post the mod for it. Go onto the MnB site, find the gear. Post a link to the gear. chadz and company aren't likely going to make their own stuff for this and I can hardly blame them. But if you say "Hey look at these things can we have them?" then it's a lot easier for someone to go "Oh well, sure we'll just match their stats with this and here you go have fun kid."

Don't just say "HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY can we have new Chinese/Roman/Japanese/whatever armor tia"
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: [ptx] on August 10, 2012, 08:27:35 am
Another problem with all such gear is that it has exposed arms/legs. You can't have the colour of  the skin on the armor match the color of the player's skin.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Oberyn on August 10, 2012, 08:40:52 am
I'd be all for feather suits and maquahuatls or whatever they're called, the obsidian club weapons. It would suck mixing them with other items though, I can already imagine juaguar warriors waving around flamberges. I'm always for more variety, but I just have to take a look at the vomit-inducing retarded armor/weapon mixes already present to realize trolls and morons would have a field day with them, either for minmaxing purposes or because being eyesores makes them giggle like retarded children. Or they literaly have no sense of taste.
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Germanicus on August 10, 2012, 10:03:09 am
Quote from: Bjord on August 09, 2012, 03:13:05 am
As much as I admire you for that post, ToD, I am afraid that he will not fully grasp the favour that has been bestowed to him.

Anyway, I think the Byzantine Empire is one of the most, if not THE most interesting medieval super powers ever. Shame they got crushed by Seljuk Turks, later known as Ottoman Empire.


screw you :D the holy roman empire was way cooler......and the vikings
Title: Re: Roman Gear?
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on August 10, 2012, 12:21:15 pm
One thing to the japanese stuff mister fuckn smart op
The japanese started creating their armors and weapons in the time of our medieval due to lack of resources
the history of japan "started" at around 500 that is a time where the romans were already seperated into east and west and west was already conquered


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