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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => Closed Requests => Topic started by: Rusty_Shacklefjord on August 03, 2012, 02:30:22 am

Title: Unban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Rusty_Shacklefjord on August 03, 2012, 02:30:22 am

I was banned on NA 1 at around 1am last night. I'm pretty sure that the admin that banned me was Muki on an alt.

She 'warned' me the previous round because I accidentally killed an unarmored peasant (AaronT) with a backswing near the end of the round, although I said sorry with QQA and he said that he didn't really care. After that the map changed and I continued playing like normal. During the initial melee I killed five enemies and got assists on MANY more. While mopping up the survivors a friendly Hospitaller guy (Frog King?) walked in front of my horse and I accidentally bumped him. He must have been very weak, because I was braking hard and swerving and he still died. Muki warned me again and I told her to 'fuck off.' There are several reasons for this. For one they were both pretty clearly accidental, and I was already being pretty careful. Despite this, she felt the need to bug me about it TWICE. They also both happened near the end of the round, when it didn't matter anyway. On top of this, I was contributing a LOT to my team's victory. Even with the teamkill I was +4, not to mention all the assists that I got and support I provided. In fact, I'd been carrying a x5 for several rounds when I got banned.

I'll admit that telling her to "fuck off" was a little rude. I'm sorry. But to be fair I didn't actually break any rules and was annoyed with good reason. I don't know how long the ban is for. If it's 24h I'm willing to just wait it out. If it's for longer I would appreciate it if someone unbanned me.

Also, I know that admins here like to bring up BS charges from the past to support their current BS charges, so just to reiterate, this was all ACCIDENTAL.

Title: Re: Unban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Muki on August 03, 2012, 02:46:29 am

Found out you still own TOD a ban eassy

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1000 word Unban essay: Why rules and respecting your fellow players is important.

Title: Re: Unban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Rusty_Shacklefjord on August 03, 2012, 03:17:58 am

Quote from: Muki on August 03, 2012, 02:46:29 am

Found out you still own TOD a ban eassy

No.

Title: Re: Unban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Muki on August 03, 2012, 03:28:57 am

Quote from: Rusty_Shacklefjord on August 03, 2012, 03:17:58 am

No.

Quote from: Shadowren on August 02, 2012, 08:57:30 pm

So if he already wrote an essay perma ban his ass already. easy as that :D

^ Well if you already wrote it

Title: Re: Unban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Rusty_Shacklefjord on August 03, 2012, 03:35:35 am

So I'm perma-banned? That seems really excessive.

Title: Re: Unban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 03, 2012, 03:38:13 am

Well since I was a previous case handler and am now mentioned in the thread:

Previous threads:
http://forum.meleegaming.com/closed-requests/unban-request-rusty_shacklefjord/msg143280/#msg143280
http://forum.meleegaming.com/closed-requests/unban-request-10731/msg154447/#msg154447
http://forum.meleegaming.com/closed-requests/unban-request-11807/msg166774/#msg166774
http://forum.meleegaming.com/closed-requests/unban-request-knight_errant/msg287730/#msg287730
http://forum.meleegaming.com/closed-requests/ban-request-canary-of-chaos/msg335821/#msg335821 (This one earned him the essay ban)
http://forum.meleegaming.com/unban-essays/unban-essay-straight-outta-compton/msg335872/#msg335872 (This one Essay he failed, and was much later unbanned)

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Quote from: Meow on January 04, 2012, 02:58:42 pm

You do realize you completely missed the topic you were supposed to write about, right?
Has something to do with basic respect and all.

This part:was hilarious though.
I will see if we can get a weekend where no admin does anything and polls are enabled :mrgreen:

It's nothing new that people instantly jump on admins who use their powers in any way and start insulting them or accusing them of power tripping.
If you have complains about admins, use the feedback forum.
In any case you are clearly sitting at the shorter end of the lever so trying to push it even further is just not the smart move.
Dealing with everyone who does that would completely consume the admins' time on the server and would hinder them in doing their job.

If you feel like the rules suck or the enforcement of them is too harsh you can feel free to write that up in the suggestions forum.
Put a poll so we can check how many people actually think that way and how many of those got banned once or more :mrgreen:

Quote from: Tears of Destiny on January 05, 2012, 07:30:32 am

I gave a sigh in real life.

Here is how it is playing out then...
cRPG player base is not shrinking, I'm not concerned. chadz disproves this on a regular basis the myth that the player base is shrinking (Mod is once again alive and kicking!). Anyone babbling about player base shrinking, due to badmins no less, is a blithering fool that surpasses even me in ignorance about cRPG.

Going through logs, Admin Text (bright pink text) was logged 3 times in Warnings, so I am not accepting any excuse whatsoever of "you did not warn" as you said earlier in your posts. Considering how often you were posting in chat shit talking, I find it remarkable that you missed All Three Direct Warning To You. If you did, to be perfectly blunt it is not my problem, as I literally can not force anyone to read the bright pink text.

You mentioned in your ban request for Canary that you did not care if your ban was ever lifted and if you stayed banned forever, I am keeping this in mind during my future points.

The poll shows more negative votes then positive votes for your essay, so even if this was a legit' essay your peers, the community, is saying No to your unban.

You are saying that if you write another essay it will not be genuine. You are not "learning any lesson nor demonstrating regret" for you do not believe that you did anything wrong.

Your essay has absolutely nothing to do with what I gave you.

I am, like it or not, the judge, jury and executioner in this scenario. (as you failed to provide the proper essay, besides the normal jury is voting no anyways as the majority vote even if your essay was valid) You can fight me, and you will fail, without question. You can work with me, and you may succeed. There are literally no other options. If you wish to have a "fair trial" then you must adhere to what was given to you. You did not write a 1000 word essay, you wrote a rant. This is akin to showing up to court and instead of explaining what happened you yell at how the system is shit. Well good job, that makes you go to jail (contempt of court for one thing, and secondly you are refusing to "process" properly.

I was not really asking you to apologize and bend over backwards for me while buttering me up, I wanted you to write me an essay on why respecting your fellow players is important. The fact that you are saying that if you were to write such a thing it would be disgenuine makes me think you don't respect your fellow players.

Either you have a severe attitude problem that I don't like and are being overly agressive(And to be blunt, my opinion matters in this scenario), or you have a problem with reading comprehension and are completely failing to understand what I mean and want you to do, and are thinking something else (in that case I can't help you.)

Even in the real world, diplomacy is a must. It does not matter if you like it, you will fail more often then not without it. If I were to scream at you wanting something, I doubt I would get it. It works both ways.

Come back in a month, or later, if you change your mind, and post an actual unban essay. As of right now, I don't want you in this community in your current state of mind.

So, in short, since you are failing to hit any desired bases so to speak...

Unban Essay Rejected

http://forum.meleegaming.com/closed-requests/unban-request-johannes_liechtenauer/msg367889/#msg367889 (remnants of a mess).

And then, not learning his lesson:
http://forum.meleegaming.com/closed-requests/unban-request-ninja_red/msg443823/#msg443823

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Typically someone who's received an essay ban in the past is on thin ice, and though you've made it very clear that you're not going to listen to warnings, here's another one anyway: start behaving or you're out of here. ~ Canary

And naturally, his latest:
http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-(official)/unban-request-erik_magnusson/msg569016/#msg569016

Title: Re: Unban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Muki on August 03, 2012, 03:41:36 am

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start behaving or you're out of here. -Canary

Well seems your out of luck

Edit:

Quote from: Ganner on August 03, 2012, 12:25:22 am

Correct. Anyone that gets banned after an essay ban is subject to immediate perma ban.

Unban Request Denial

Title: Reunban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Rusty_Shacklefjord on August 03, 2012, 04:13:14 am

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Making a new thread because the other one was locked before I could reply.

I was banned a few times before, but check the dates of those posts please.
- first three all from last July when I just joined cRPG and didn't know the rules.
- one in November, a misunderstanding.
- ridiculous essay ban in January (8 months ago). I wrote the essay even though it was wrong.
- short 12h ban in April because I called Canary a mad nerd, which he proved he was by banning me (lol).

Then this, a legitimate accident. You don't have any pictures or videos or evidence that it was intentional because it wasn't. In fact, you probably didn't even see it and just banned me because people were whining in admin chat. I accidentally teamkilled some guy. Oh well, it happens. A 1 hour cooldown ban would have been appropriate. A perma-ban is complete overkill.

I love cRPG and I would do anything for her, but I don't want to spend all night arguing about this. I already sincerely apologized for being rude to Muki. I'll even do it again: I was rude and I'm sorry. Please forgive me.

Title: Re: Reunban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 03, 2012, 04:37:43 am

Quote from: Rusty_Shacklefjord on August 03, 2012, 04:13:14 am

- ridiculous essay ban in January (8 months ago). I wrote the essay even though it was wrong.

You literally never wrote the essay I issued you, which is mainly why I failed you on the off-topic speal you wrote. I encourage you to re-read my response.

Title: Re: Reunban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Rusty_Shacklefjord on August 03, 2012, 05:08:07 am

Quote from: Tears of Destiny on August 03, 2012, 04:37:43 am

You literally never wrote the essay I issued you, which is mainly why I failed you on the off-topic speal you wrote. I encourage you to re-read my response.

What is this, english 101? Do you seriously expect people to be writing legitimate essays for some forum post? If so, should it be in MLA or APA format?

Title: Re: Reunban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on August 03, 2012, 05:31:06 am

Rusty i got banned by muki for accidental tk also i feel your pain.

Title: Re: Reunban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Muki on August 03, 2012, 06:08:58 am

Quote from: Vieuxcrotter on August 03, 2012, 05:31:06 am

Rusty i got banned by muki for accidental tk also i feel your pain.

May want to read the post below.

Quote from: Ganner on August 03, 2012, 12:25:22 am

Correct. Anyone that gets banned after an essay ban is subject to immediate perma ban.

Quote from: Shadowren on August 02, 2012, 08:57:30 pm

So if he already wrote an essay perma ban his ass already. easy as that :D

Final word is your Perma Ban

Title: Re: Unban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Rusty_Shacklefjord on August 03, 2012, 06:28:49 am

I was essay banned EIGHT MONTHS AGO and the guy that banned me isn't even an admin any more. Doesn't that count for anything?

If you're that upset that I'm 'trash talking' to people just mute me or something. You're weighing these stupid past bans too heavily. Again, to re-reiterate, I never actually broke any rules. I also apologized twice.

Half the population of cRPG has been banned, but I can't think of a single person that was really such a problem that it warranted permanently banning them. Please lighten up a little and stop policing everyone so harshly.

Really, why can't we all just get along?

Title: Re: Unban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Vieuxcrotter on August 03, 2012, 06:40:52 am

I know this is none of my business in this thread but there is players that cheated using autoblock hack and they got banned for less then a week. Something is really wrong here.

Title: Re: Unban Request: Erik_Magnusson
Post by: Meow on August 03, 2012, 08:07:18 am

Quote from: Rusty_Shacklefjord on August 03, 2012, 06:28:49 am

Really, why can't we all just get along?

Because people like you rack up 12-15 bans and still fail to understand some basic rules.

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Then an admin gives you the opportunity to come back from that and you decide that it means that you can go mad again.

Quote from: Vieuxcrotter on August 03, 2012, 06:40:52 am

I know this is none of my business in this thread but there is players that cheated using autoblock hack and they got banned for less then a week. Something is really wrong here.

In opposite to notorious griefers, those autoblockers did use it for very short time and never used it afterwards.
As far as I know there never was a single autoblocker who got unbanned who used it again afterwards.
So don't make it worse than someone who griefs people on a regular basis and kills their gameplay.
People who used autoblock for regular gameplay are a different thing but those don't get unbanned anyhow.