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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Knitler on August 01, 2012, 05:23:30 pm

Title: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Knitler on August 01, 2012, 05:23:30 pm
Hey guys, maybe im in the false underforum but i think its right, maybe someone else postet months ago a equal post but i will make it;

Guys, you know 1257 AD? Theres a banner which you can carry, why cRPG dont have it? it would be really realistic , than we dont need this batallions anymore and it would look like pretty nice.
Lets show you guys some screenies, dont wonder because of the austrian eagle, i edited it :P Normally there would be your ingame banner;

(click to show/hide)

Atleast how i mean it; You can buy it like a construction site/siege shield or whatever, you can block with it but not attack. When you leftklick it you stick it into the ground. Maybe it should cost 20k i would buy it.
It should use 1 or 2 Slots so you can use another weapon with you.

Would be really nice :)
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Warham on August 01, 2012, 05:29:44 pm
Good idea +1
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Miwiw on August 01, 2012, 05:30:30 pm
20k? 1400 upkeep, put it as throwing weapon as you said, so you can lower the upkeep by wpf (or put a banner in each weapon category, 1h, 2h, pole).

Make it 3 slot like the pike, the weight and length should fit that.
Boni? Not needed, but without no one would use it on the public servers. Looming it could either lower the upkeep or improve the boni, if there's need of those.

In the screenshot is a quite heavy banner, using a shorter stick for it could make it possible to dual fight with a sword, instead of a shield for example (problem: how to block? In Mount and Gladius they made it possible to block with the banner, thats stupid however).

Its a good idea, just needing a model now.
Flag wouldnt move though unless crpg gets the codes for that.
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Penitent on August 01, 2012, 05:48:03 pm
Cool! +1
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Adalwulf on August 01, 2012, 05:56:11 pm
Not a bad idea would look cool
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: beniliusbob on August 01, 2012, 06:44:50 pm
Isn't there already a banner at spawn that can be picked up? I've never figured out how people do it, but I see people carrying the spawn banners into battle all the time.
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Knitler on August 01, 2012, 06:46:24 pm
Quote from: beniliusbob on August 01, 2012, 06:44:50 pm
Isn't there already a banner at spawn that can be picked up? I've never figured out how people do it, but I see people carrying the spawn banners into battle all the time.

You can with pressing P once so youre assigning into a batallion, and then pressinf F1 to the ground where youre standing, but its not wearable it just flies over your head and is blocking your sight. We need a banner that we can really hold in our hands ^^
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: William_Marshal on August 01, 2012, 06:47:14 pm
i agree nice idea!
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Jarlek on August 01, 2012, 09:00:22 pm
Last time I checked, the 1257 AD team didn't allow others to use their stuff, so we can't use that banner.

Although Brytenwalda also got one (even heraldic ones) and I'm unsure if they let others use them. Anyone knows?

I'll make a video with the brytenwalda banner (need to test FRAPS anyway) and I'll post a link here when I've uploaded it.
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Knitler on August 01, 2012, 09:59:21 pm
Quote from: Zapper on August 01, 2012, 09:00:22 pm
Last time I checked, the 1257 AD team didn't allow others to use their stuff, so we can't use that banner.

Although Brytenwalda also got one (even heraldic ones) and I'm unsure if they let others use them. Anyone knows?

I'll make a video with the brytenwalda banner (need to test FRAPS anyway) and I'll post a link here when I've uploaded it.

It was just an idea ;)
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: gazda on August 01, 2012, 10:14:05 pm

i can already imagine begining of every round
 "DEFEND THE FLAG CARRIER"
 "DEFEND THE FLAG CARRIER"
 "DEFEND THE FLAG CARRIER"
 "DEFEND THE FLAG CARRIER"
 "DEFEND THE FLAG CARRIER"
 "DEFEND THE FLAG CARRIER"
 "DEFEND THE FLAG CARRIER"
 "DEFEND THE FLAG CARRIER"
 "DEFEND THE FLAG CARRIER"
 "DEFEND THE FLAG CARRIER"
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Jarlek on August 01, 2012, 10:15:37 pm
Quote from: Knitler on August 01, 2012, 09:59:21 pm
It was just an idea ;)
But I want to make a video :P
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: HarunYahya on August 01, 2012, 10:42:47 pm
Good idea , +1
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: gazda on August 01, 2012, 11:16:53 pm
Bad turk, -1
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Knitler on August 02, 2012, 12:16:33 am
Quote from: Zapper on August 01, 2012, 10:15:37 pm
But I want to make a video :P

We just discussed on the teamspeak and i thought, hmm 1257 AD have a flag, Persistant World and Vikingr/Brytenwalder too but i just had some screens from 1257AD, When the idea is pretty good and most guys agree maybe chadz and cmpx will make their own banner model :P
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Jarlek on August 02, 2012, 01:08:50 am
Quote from: Knitler on August 02, 2012, 12:16:33 am
We just discussed on the teamspeak and i thought, hmm 1257 AD have a flag, Persistant World and Vikingr/Brytenwalder too but i just had some screens from 1257AD, When the idea is pretty good and most guys agree maybe chadz and cmpx will make their own banner model :P
Like they will make any textures at all xD

Maybe they'll get someone else to make it for them, but then they would probably want someone to make it before they decide whether or not put it in.

Anyways, I've made the video and am uploading it to youtube. Wow, I'm crap at this xD Anyone who can help me out would be nice. What's a good editor that doesn't change the resolution and the like?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC4yZmD9KUM

PS: Guess I'm really crap a making videos   :oops:
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Knitler on August 02, 2012, 01:31:30 am
A video for nearly nothing, nice ^^.

MAybe its a bit too long and theres not soo much material where the flag is banded on and you shouldnt attack with the banner ... maybe like a shieldsmash which looks like a kick. But i dont think it would be good enough... just for trolling.
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Lizard_man on August 02, 2012, 04:24:28 am
Would be a nice addition, being able to throw it into the ground would be pretty cool...
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Weewum on August 02, 2012, 05:02:42 am
Defend the flag [c]arrier.
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: bukva2 on August 02, 2012, 04:19:17 pm
inb4 japanese banners that were used by the samurai (As seen in The Last Samurai movie) All dem weaboos gathering up :D
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: kono yaro! on August 04, 2012, 07:53:12 am
why would it have to cost so much money? just make it 3 maybe 4 slots and people wouldnt be spamming it, if thats your concern
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Knitler on August 04, 2012, 02:47:30 pm
Quote from: kono yaro! on August 04, 2012, 07:53:12 am
why would it have to cost so much money? just make it 3 maybe 4 slots and people wouldnt be spamming it, if thats your concern

it should just be something for your eyes, realistic and heraldic , it should have 2 slots.
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Riddaren on August 04, 2012, 05:41:09 pm
Should be 2 or 3 slots.
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Latvian on August 04, 2012, 06:47:35 pm
why would anyone want to carry around banner? Carrying that banner would be like" hey archers  shoot me"
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Angantyr on August 04, 2012, 06:50:53 pm
Perhaps make it give some little defense bonus to friendly players in its vicinity, this drastically improved formation battle in Vikingr back when it was implemented.
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Knitler on August 04, 2012, 07:30:28 pm
Quote from: Latvian_Knight on August 04, 2012, 06:47:35 pm
why would anyone want to carry around banner? Carrying that banner would be like" hey archers  shoot me"

Its good for imperial clans or which uses banners like HRE, Fallen, Templols and such. Maybe it should be like in Mount & Gladius you can block with it - its like a shield but breaks after 1-5 hits
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Inglorious on August 04, 2012, 10:27:17 pm

I like the idea of having a flag standard you can carry. Although useless in any actual combat form other than a directional blocking tool, it has the potential to server many other purposes like you stated!

In the NW DLC for warband the flags auto stand in the ground when dropped, just like the deluge mod. It is a pretty cool look having won a battlefield and having a flag to wave in victory.



+1 good sir
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Miwiw on August 04, 2012, 11:14:32 pm
Quote from: Knitler on August 04, 2012, 07:30:28 pm
Maybe it should be like in Mount & Gladius you can block with it - its like a shield but breaks after 1-5 hits

Nah. That's really awful in M&G. Simply because there you are also able to use a sidearm (sword), and just use the banner as shield. Doesn't only look awful.

If it is a small banner the sidearm, a sword, should block. Manual block. Put a small banner in the left hand then. Still 3 slots though imo.
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Knitler on August 05, 2012, 12:02:02 pm
Quote from: IngloriouslyBad on August 04, 2012, 10:27:17 pm
In the NW DLC for warband the flags auto stand in the ground when dropped, just like the deluge mod. It is a pretty cool look having won a battlefield and having a flag to wave in victory.

I know but in which category should the banner stay then? I mean we have no category for other, so we can get the Banner in the throwing category and you can throw it, it would be nicer when you really must stick it into the ground and when you die with it in the hands it falls to the ground :)

Quote from: Miwiw99 on August 04, 2012, 11:14:32 pm
Nah. That's really awful in M&G. Simply because there you are also able to use a sidearm (sword), and just use the banner as shield. Doesn't only look awful.

Ah ok i forgot about that Miwiw, but i still think 2 Slots are enough. I want to carry a banner with my awlpike :P. But maybe it should weight about 5.0
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Inglorious on August 06, 2012, 04:26:19 am
Pole arm. Take away the attacks, leave the blocks.

If you make it a throwable, pickupable, droppable... would it change colours on different clan pickup? Or would it keep its unique properties.
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Knitler on August 06, 2012, 02:06:01 pm
Quote from: IngloriouslyBad on August 06, 2012, 04:26:19 am
Pole arm. Take away the attacks, leave the blocks.

If you make it a throwable, pickupable, droppable... would it change colours on different clan pickup? Or would it keep its unique properties.

Thats the thing ... in NW it keeps his banner but there were not so many as like in cRPG there would be some 1xx banners ^^. It should fall to the ground when the guy whos carring it dies - but he can throw it to the ground or just drop it so it will stand. Like Secession or NW
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Knitler on November 02, 2012, 12:34:27 pm
bump :-?
Title: Re: We need flagcarrier
Post by: Jarlek on November 02, 2012, 04:27:45 pm
Where is my bannermen!