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Title: Crusade against night time
Post by: Para on July 31, 2012, 07:54:54 pm
Every time I've jumped on a server since this latest patch it has been stuck in night time, regardless of what the website weather icon thingy says. Is it stuck in night time?

Couldn't we just remove night time altogether? I don't know if other people have this problem but it constantly strains my eyes to the point of giving me headaches. It really discourages me from playing this game, especially when I can't see half of the weapons in enemies hands. Sure it adds more variety to the game, but I've never met a player that thinks night time was a beneficial addition to the servers.
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: Zerran on July 31, 2012, 07:56:26 pm
The server has been stuck on nighttime for at least the past 10 hours. It's rather annoying.
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: dodnet on July 31, 2012, 08:23:31 pm
Its still damn polar night.
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: callahan9119 on August 01, 2012, 02:50:37 am
They need to get rid of the night bullshit all together...my eyes get so strained.
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: kono yaro! on August 01, 2012, 03:10:16 am
eat more carrots you fatties
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: Scrambles720 on August 01, 2012, 03:29:39 am
Seriously fuck nighttime :( makes the game near unplayable.
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: callahan9119 on August 01, 2012, 03:46:58 am
Quote from: Scrambles720 on August 01, 2012, 03:29:39 am
Seriously fuck nighttime :( makes the game near unplayable.

I agree, I was just on for about half an hour and my eyes are fucked. I just got off the game and looking at the white space as I'm typing is like looking at the goddamn sun.
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: ArysOakheart on August 01, 2012, 03:52:46 am
Maybe my eyes are just superior to everyone elses, but nighttime on dx7 is as bright as day time for me.  :twisted:
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: callahan9119 on August 01, 2012, 03:59:36 am
Quote from: ArysOakheart on August 01, 2012, 03:52:46 am
Maybe my eyes are just superior to everyone elses, but nighttime on dx7 is as bright as day time for me.  :twisted:

Is it? I like my fancy graphics, does it look like shit? I look at a lot of screenshots from people and it looks like their graphic settings are set on 2001.

Guess I'll try it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: Riddaren on August 01, 2012, 04:05:29 am
I play at -50% effectiveness at night time as a lancer opposed to some players (melee infantry or DirectX7) who are unaffected.
Night time really screws up the competetive part about crpg... I usually just log off or switch to a "fun" character when it happens.
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: oohillac on August 01, 2012, 04:55:10 am
Fix this, it is very depressing!
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: callahan9119 on August 01, 2012, 07:02:46 am
Quote from: oohillac on August 01, 2012, 04:55:10 am
Fix this, it is very depressing!

It is, I have to play in dx7 which looks like I'm playing Morrowind. This should be hotfix material...
Title: Crusade against night time
Post by: Para on August 04, 2012, 05:37:01 am
It stinks, and I hate it.

Every time the server turns to night I just want to instantly leave the server (which I see people do all the time). Combined with certain castle or ground tile sets, seeing enemy weapons is unbearably annoying and eye straining. It adds nothing to gameplay besides being another form of weather variety. I understand the weather effects exist to change things up. I have no problem when fog rolls around because it doesn't destroy my eyes as I'm playing with it on.

I'd really like to know if any players actually like night time. I'm not talking about players who are playing DX7 or some combination of settings that makes night time brighter or more bearable. I'm talking about the people who play with default settings and enjoy being able to see less in a game that requires so much visual information. I'd really like to hear people's opinions on it.

Please save the eyes of crpg players everywhere and end night time once and for all!
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on August 04, 2012, 08:46:02 am
I like night time if I'm using this on a castle map

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Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 04, 2012, 08:53:56 am
Damn christians and their crusades...
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: chadz on August 04, 2012, 09:32:30 am
What if we would nerf nighttime by making it brighter? Just 'hinting' at it being night, but more looking like dawn.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on August 04, 2012, 09:35:29 am
Much better.

Give it shot chadz it might do the trick.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Para on August 04, 2012, 09:35:51 am
Quote from: chadz on August 04, 2012, 09:32:30 am
What if we would nerf nighttime by making it brighter? Just 'hinting' at it being night, but more looking like dawn.

That would be a fantastic compromise, anything that's slightly brighter than what the current night is would be great. I do like the ambiance of night time, the sky looks beautiful.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Rhekimos on August 04, 2012, 09:35:51 am
Quote from: chadz on August 04, 2012, 09:32:30 am
What if we would nerf nighttime by making it brighter? Just 'hinting' at it being night, but more looking like dawn.

This could be a good compromise. I'd be fine with just more daytime, though.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 04, 2012, 09:36:51 am
Quote from: chadz on August 04, 2012, 09:32:30 am
What if we would nerf nighttime by making it brighter? Just 'hinting' at it being night, but more looking like dawn.

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Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: XyNox on August 04, 2012, 11:24:09 am
On top of all the night time, how come there are so few light sources in all the maps. Didnt they have like torches in castles back then ?  Is the impact on performance that much a deal when you place around 20 torches through out the map ( they dont even have to emitt particles ).
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Muki on August 04, 2012, 11:28:25 am
Quote from: XyNox on August 04, 2012, 11:24:09 am
On top of all the night time, how come there are so few light sources in all the maps. Didnt they have like torches in castles back then ?  Is the impact on performance that much a deal when you place around 20 torches through out the map ( they dont even have to emitt particles ).
http://forum.meleegaming.com/scene-editing/%28important%29-using-torches-fires-candles/
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: XyNox on August 04, 2012, 11:34:48 am
Quote from: Muki on August 04, 2012, 11:28:25 am
http://forum.meleegaming.com/scene-editing/%28important%29-using-torches-fires-candles/

Im aware of this. Although, Im not talking about putting 20 torches in one spot but rather putting 20 torches in the entire map, so there is at least some illumination everywhere. Some maps dont even have torches in the gatehouse. Also, Im sure it is possible to find ways to place light sources that dont have to emitt particles while not looking bad.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Gnjus on August 04, 2012, 11:35:29 am
Quote from: chadz on August 04, 2012, 09:32:30 am
What if we would nerf nighttime by making it brighter? Just 'hinting' at it being night, but more looking like dawn.

Not only would it improve the game but it would also be a step towards realism as we already know that big-scale battles were almost never fought at night-time, while on the other hand there was a lot of "surprise dawn-time attacks".
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Protemus on August 04, 2012, 01:06:21 pm
NO,NO WRONG,this is so wrong

it isn't enough that my skin is burning away on daylight maps,now you want perma-day...I DEMAND JUSTICE FOR US,VAMPIRES
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Chasey on August 04, 2012, 01:08:24 pm
+1 i usually just leave the server when it turns night
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Miwiw on August 04, 2012, 01:17:04 pm
http://forum.meleegaming.com/suggestions-corner/less-night-time/

"hate" is the wrong word. really
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Riddaren on August 04, 2012, 01:34:10 pm
Well said Para. I agree with you totally.

During night time players no longer fight at equal conditions due to some having DX7 and some DX9.
Those wanting night time has always been those playing with DX7.

Night time should have been removed from crpg a long time ago.
It simply doesn't fit in a competetive game.

Quote from: chadz on August 04, 2012, 09:32:30 am
What if we would nerf nighttime by making it brighter? Just 'hinting' at it being night, but more looking like dawn.

It surely would be better but the problem would still remain as DX9 players see less at dawn than DX7 players.
Even if everyone did get affected the same way I would be against it. Seeing less makes the game more random.

During daylight I can dodge almost all incoming projectiles.
At dawn it becomes alot harder.
At night time it's no idea to even try... it's so hard to see.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Rhekimos on August 04, 2012, 01:36:33 pm
Quote from: Riddaren on August 04, 2012, 01:34:10 pm
Those wanting night time has always been those playing with DX7.

I play with DX7, and I'm not particularly fond of the nighttime.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Miwiw on August 04, 2012, 01:47:28 pm
One mistake. Playing on the public server makes the game being casual not competetive.

Quote from: Riddaren on August 04, 2012, 01:34:10 pm
It simply doesn't fit in a competetive game.

Competetive would either mean clan battles like Strategus (and did you ever see a Strategus battle with night time?) or anything else with a ladder system, e.g. duel ladder.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Teeth on August 04, 2012, 01:48:42 pm
Quote from: chadz on August 04, 2012, 09:32:30 am
What if we would nerf nighttime by making it brighter? Just 'hinting' at it being night, but more looking like dawn.
It's already like that for me.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Zandieer on August 04, 2012, 01:52:57 pm
Quote from: chadz on August 04, 2012, 09:32:30 am
What if we would nerf nighttime by making it brighter? Just 'hinting' at it being night, but more looking like dawn.

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Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: karasu on August 04, 2012, 02:16:31 pm
Dunno bout you, but adjusting Gamma and Brightness always worked for me. And it's fun to play at night.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Camaris on August 04, 2012, 03:23:47 pm
Either kill the night or make it brighter. I hate night. I hate it especially in summer.
HATE HATE HATE!
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Leshma on August 04, 2012, 03:48:54 pm
I'll see you DX7 folks when new client become public.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Riddaren on August 04, 2012, 04:05:13 pm
Quote from: karasu on August 04, 2012, 02:16:31 pm
Dunno bout you, but adjusting Gamma and Brightness always worked for me. And it's fun to play at night.

Fun you say...
Then I assume you lower your gamma and brightness to make it even darker :wink:
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: dynamike on August 04, 2012, 06:45:31 pm
I play on DX 9 and from time to time enjoy night time and the stealthiness it adds.

Maybe just reduce the frequency and I'd be happy.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Miley on August 04, 2012, 09:58:24 pm
Quote from: chadz on August 04, 2012, 09:32:30 am
What if we would nerf nighttime by making it brighter? Just 'hinting' at it being night, but more looking like dawn.

How about old cRPG day all day?
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Arathian on August 05, 2012, 12:47:23 am
I like night time :/

Don't remove the pitch black completely chadz!

Do the dawn thingy but leave a reduced chance to have a good old "pitch black" night.

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Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Miwiw on August 05, 2012, 12:48:48 am
Quote from: Arathian on August 05, 2012, 12:47:23 am


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No. Night shouldnt be removed all together. A map at night time now and then is totally fine. :)
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Riddaren on August 30, 2012, 09:17:17 pm
Nighttime - the single most annoying thing about crpg (unless you use dx7 that is).
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: Riddaren on August 30, 2012, 09:22:33 pm
I no longer play as much as I used to do. Mostly because of the lack of small populated battle servers.
EU_4 doesn't even count as it's always black, which makes it unplayable (I don't find any joy at all playing in nighttime).

It's a shame... I guess crpg will lose a lot of those players who enjoyed playing on pecores/nordmen/melee and eu_4 before it went black.
I hope you realize people are actually leaving crpg because of this.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Elindor on August 30, 2012, 09:45:34 pm
Nighttime is alright I guess...

Now rain.....rain is pure evil!
CRUSADE AGAINST RAIN PENALTIES BROTHERS!!!!!!!!  :evil:
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Spleen on August 30, 2012, 09:53:07 pm
well, just disable the particle system to get rid of the rain
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Elindor on August 30, 2012, 11:32:17 pm
Quote from: Spleen on August 30, 2012, 09:53:07 pm
well, just disable the particle system to get rid of the rain

.....is this real, or troll?

rain puts a negative modifier on movement speed and ranged dmg, which is not disabled by simply turning off the particle system on your own client.
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: SHinOCk on August 31, 2012, 12:24:47 am
I really dont get whats the prob, i play with everything maxed out in dx9 and night time just look the same as day time to me except theres stars in the sky instead of the sun
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 31, 2012, 12:28:29 am
I think night time is a beneficial addition to the servers.
Title: Re: Servers stuck in perpetual night time?
Post by: justme on August 31, 2012, 02:06:17 am
f......
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Canary on August 31, 2012, 02:47:44 am
Not sure why we needed two threads with the same topic... merged.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Para on August 31, 2012, 06:07:00 am
Quote from: Canary on August 31, 2012, 02:47:44 am
Not sure why we needed two threads with the same topic... merged.

These were two threads made a while ago at different times and someone decided to bump both of them.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Dexxtaa on August 31, 2012, 10:15:40 pm
I don't know how you guys not see at night. What kind of monitors are you using thatakes it do hard to see?
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Riddaren on September 01, 2012, 01:13:52 am
The question is, who is enjoying nighttime?
Everyone are just trying to get around it somehow. Changing to DX7, changing graphic settings etc, all to make it less dark.
What's the point?
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Tindel on September 01, 2012, 01:22:06 am
Just fucking remove it,  I WANT SUNSHINE    :)
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Kirbyy on September 02, 2012, 07:50:59 am
My screen is so bright, for most games I don't care about darkness. Lol
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Kafein on September 02, 2012, 12:13:26 pm
Let the sunshine, leeeeet the sunshine in. Now.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Adamar on September 02, 2012, 12:21:12 pm
I could say that night time makes it slightly harder to aim my longbow.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Dino_Penis on September 03, 2012, 05:46:43 am
Really hate it when the weather in the server is night, but when I look at my window it is sunny as fuck.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Riddaren on October 25, 2012, 02:19:14 pm
Remove night time now please.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Haboe on October 25, 2012, 02:21:28 pm
Quote from: Riddaren on September 01, 2012, 01:13:52 am
The question is, who is enjoying nighttime?

I do.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Riddaren on October 25, 2012, 02:28:05 pm
Quote from: Haboe on October 25, 2012, 02:21:28 pm
I do.

61% doesnt like it. So why not make EU_4 100% day light instead of night time?
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: dodnet on October 25, 2012, 03:16:20 pm
Quote from: Riddaren on October 25, 2012, 02:28:05 pm
61% doesnt like it. So why not make EU_4 100% day light instead of night time?

Make it 100% dawn, so everyone is happy  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Riddaren on October 25, 2012, 03:25:35 pm
Would be better than night time for sure.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: Haboe on October 25, 2012, 05:21:58 pm
Quote from: Riddaren on October 25, 2012, 02:28:05 pm
61% doesnt like it. So why not make EU_4 100% day light instead of night time?

(55.6%) says I hate it.

If we remove anything that gets a majority in the votes we will have a few things happening:

Archers will be shooting sticks with no points and only 5 damage.
Cav would ride half dead donkey's that get staggered from any stick or rock trown shot or stabbed at them
Goats will be added and capable of flying
Anyone with weaboo armor would have to bend over, get royally penetrated in the anus for a few days after which they are stripped of their armor and forced into a kuyak.

So yea, almost half the community doesn't care about or loves nighttime.

Xx


EDIT, 100% nighttime on eu 4 or whatever server you said is indeed wrong, needs fixing.
Title: Re: Crusade against night time
Post by: OssumPawesome on October 26, 2012, 05:53:44 pm
this implies devs will ever do work on this mod again ever.
sry bud.