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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Froto_the_Loc on July 23, 2012, 09:46:56 am
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There are a few weapons that I dislike for my own reasons.
I'm sure others have weapons they hate as well.
Even If it's just one, share.
Italian Sword-Why is it such a decent weapon? Can It not specialize in something?!
Steel Pick-Invisible.
Longsword-I'm not even sure.
Nodachi-Ridiculously long and heavy.
Trident-Why do you suck so much?
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I browsed through all the weapons in the shops and decided that I don't really hate anything. Every weapon has their own category that they fit into.
However, I dislike that people tend to go for the high-end stuff leaving good mid-tier weapons totally unused. That's not the weapons fault however.
If I must pick one, it would be Danish Greatsword. Way too many people use it.
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Glaive - No comment.
Longspear - No comment.
Bar mace - Must have a knockdown rate of 80-90%. :mad:
Any crossbow/bow - Because they kill me.
Throwing lances - I stay away from those like fat kids from diet coke.
Flamberge - OP!!
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Every tiny weapon that allows spammers to knock you down. I'm okay with getting knockdowned by mauls, but those little hammer-thingies, staffs, cudgels, whatsoever are fast as fuck and knock you down waaaaay too often.
Especially horrible in combination with shields: Knobbed Mace, Flanged Mace, Winged Mace, Iberian Mace, MACE MACE MACE MACE MACE
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Throwing weapons
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Flanged mace, Iberian mace, Warhammer, Military hammer, Broad One Handed Battle Axe and other fast 1h axes.
Any 1h weapon with knockdown or strange hitboxes that make it hitslash with leftswing.
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MW Craptana, too fast
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I hate long weapons. Not necessarily because they're long but because people s key with them while spamming and its annoying. I often die to that since I think I have an opening and swing but they s key'd some more and my weapon doesn't reach but their weapon does.
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spears and stuff...
because its freaking retarded how they can stab you even if you stand half a foot away from the guy
oh yeah...and steel pick because its too small to see for me :D
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1 h knockdown weapons and Pike/longspear but only if it's abooosed hard
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Iberian Mace and Steel Pick!
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Longspear - No comment.
What's wrong with Long Spears?
Just block down.
I would have to say I hate fighting people with Katanas, because normally anyone with a Katana is a Ninja or Samurai who are massive Agility whores and the Katana is just Uber Fast.
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Heavy Throwing Axe. :evil:
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Danish Greatsword, German Greatsword, Great Sword, Heavy Great Sword, Sword of War, Highland Claymore
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nodachi,katana,pike,glaive,flamberge,scimitar. Every of this weapon exept pike is pure spam weapon,and only spammers use them.
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Throwing stones because they look more like throwing dildos's with heirloom pack and I find that offensive :rolleyes:
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Short spammy weapons I cannot see.
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MW Craptana
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Glaive.
Scimitar.. You have no idea..
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Those one-handed mace's with knockdown... grrr and scimitars cuz they just dont seem to hit you but oh yeh they hit.
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Long spear but only if its abused by players like Chase. If used normally (like I try to do it) its fine.
Greatswords - long, boring shit. We need more diversity in 2h!
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Great Maul
:evil:
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Spamitar , spamtana , glaive, any 1h woth knockdown , mace and the worse : throwing lance (too many guys make stf character just for use it and do easy kills)
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Great Maul
:evil:
You weakling. Möge er einen Step zur Seite machen, auf dass der Hamme sich nicht auf den Weg zum Falle auf sein Haupte mache.
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You weakling. Möge er einen Schritt zur Seite machen, auf dass der Hammer sich nicht auf den Weg zum Falle auf sein Haupte mache.
fixed. :P Anglizismen in einem Satz, der zumindest alt klingen soll. Mann, mann, mann.
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Hurensohn.
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fixed. :P Anglizismen in einem Satz, der zumindest alt klingen soll. Mann, mann, mann.
Iwas muss er ja verstehen.
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You weakling. Möge er einen Step zur Seite machen, auf dass der Hamme sich nicht auf den Weg zum Falle auf sein Haupte mache.
Perkele jos mä oon siinä rytäkässä keskellä nii siitä on vaikeeta liikkua mihinkää suuntaan ku tulee maulia naamaan ja tiimiläisiä takana, vasemmalla ja oikealla. Jos on 1vs1 nii sitte raiskaan sen spammaten left swingiä.
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Steel Pick.
12 str requirement for the top damage-dealer 1h is ridiculous. Also mostly invisible.
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all staffs completelx retarded how fast they are and that they ca knockdown heavy armored guys.
greatsword - can outreach my flamberge and almost every polearm with thei retarded lolstab
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Glaive, the 90 speed is a lie, same with the long hafted blade, these weapons are incredibly fast for some raisins. Oh and anybody that backpedals with a glaive and uses kicks should die in a fire.
Scimitars, phantomranged, early hitting piece of shit.
Morningstars, barmaces and warcleavers, any unbalanced 2h really. I don't know what it is with these weapons, their animations are weird. Now someone is going to tell me that they have the same animations as the other 2h, but thats a lie. They play at a different speeds or something, like a longer time to chamber but a faster swing. These things always surprise me with their swing speed.
Longspears, they render me useless if one of these is in a group and he is covered well.
Great maul, currently the most OP weapon in the game, although not much of a problem for me personally.
Longsword, magically transforms a normal decent player into a random spammer whenever they get one of these.
/QQ
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The atrociously unbalanced steel pick (32 pierce? Most one handed SWORDS don't have 32 CUT) and the scimitar. Warband, either handle curved weapons correctly or DON'T IMPLEMENT THEM.
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Morningstars, barmaces and warcleavers, any unbalanced 2h really. I don't know what it is with these weapons, their animations are weird. Now someone is going to tell me that they have the same animations as the other 2h, but thats a lie. They play at a different speeds or something, like a longer time to chamber but a faster swing. These things always surprise me with their swing speed.
This right here. I played pure str morningstar for 3 gens, have one masterworked and can tell you that if you feint at just the right time in the swing animation it seems to lag behind whats really happening and suddenly you'll do an instaswing out of nowhere. Very hard to defend against if you don't know its coming and it messes most players up.
Never liked steel pick, its harder to see than most weapons and fast as balls. Often a shielder will feint into a left swing and hit me before I even know which direction to block, scary weapon.
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all of the greatswords, most used weapon in the game, out ranged war spear against cav, one shot kills archers / lightly armed, insanely long so in a mass melee you can hit someone at the other side of the fight, and also with a pure 2h build / +3, very fast.
oh, also, war darts, just because i've had to use them for 3 gens now and playing ranged in crpg is like trying to operate a doorknob with no arms.
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I played pure str morningstar for 3 gens, have one masterworked and can tell you that if you feint at just the right time in the swing animation it seems to lag behind whats really happening and suddenly you'll do an instaswing out of nowhere. Very hard to defend against if you don't know its coming and it messes most players up
Ah yes the unbalanced trait bug - agreed, very annoying.
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greatswords! I fucking hate greatswords! longswords/hand 'n' half swords are ok, but greatswords are GAY
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Pick is small and hard to see but that's the only thing it has to be on par with Warhammer which has knockdown. One handed hammers are OP, not picks...
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Pick is small and hard to see but that's the only thing it has to be on par with Warhammer which has knockdown. One handed hammers are OP, not picks...
tells the guy who have 18/24 build and mw sow who spams ppl. GS are op.
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Horse bump.
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heavy lance
rus bow
all xbows
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All this ugly weaboo stuff, it hurts my eyes :(
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tells the guy who have 18/24 build and mw sow who spams ppl. GS are op.
Yes, greatswords are OP.
And no, I don't have MW SoW.
And yes, I do have 18/24.
And yes, you are butthurt.
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greatswords are not op what are you even talking about
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Mw german you use, right leshma?
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The bestest of the all, yes :)
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Steel Pick - Invisibru
Bows - NERF ARCHERY ALREADY! Some guys shoot me in the chest with a bow only once and I loose 90% of my HP. What the point of a slowass reloading arbalests if a bow does lots moar damage and shoots like a machiengun.
Awpike - mother of God
Katana - I cant see anything when a agiwhore is spamming it
Glaive - too fast man
I dont get the massive hate for Greatswords thou. They are quite balanced(or there are lots more OP weapons than gswords). Not too fast, do better dam than 1h swords and have a wider range. Sure they look kinda similar, if comparing a gsword to a gsword, but atleast there is a choise. And people lolstabbing while holding "s" is totally players fault, not the weapons fault.
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I dont get the massive hate for Greatswords thou.
Of course you don't understand. Neither did I when I was still green. Thought that greatsword is the only skilled class around. Guess, what?
It's not.
After struggling to kill something on alts, I join server with my greatsword and easily get 15-0 in two rounds.
Yeah, greatswords aren't OP at all...
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Arabian Cavalry Sword -> Overused and fugly
Glaive -> Weapon of choice for polearm backpaddler noobs
Great Maul -> Ridiculous hitbox, too fantasy
Danish Greatsword -> Just way too overused...
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No surprises from me..
Yes I think greatswords and certain long polearms are OP.
Range of a weapons i undervalued compared to speed/damage/price/other attributes in the balance formulas.
With a longer weapon in battle you can:
* Choose targets in a larger radius
* Get first attack (as a shorter weapon has to block first)
* Project threat in a larger radius
* Have cav defense in main weapon
* Backpedal spam with the obligatory kick opportunity
This is all enormously useful attributes, and hence most 2h/pole take as long a weapon as possible. It is also silly that such long huge weapons can be swung as fast as lighter, shorter weapons. The actual swing speed difference between a bastard sword and a GLA is negligible with hiltslash and turning.
etc etc..
I want to see longer weapons slowed down a lot and with increased damage. Not all weapons should be made to be perfect duel weapons. If you complain that gameplay is slow, you should grab a faster weapon. You can't have great range, great speed, AND great damage. Choose 2.
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Danish Greatsword.
German Greastsword.
Sword of War.
Highland Claymore.
Long Maul.
Great Maul.
Mallet.
Maul.
Great Long Axe.
Iron Staff.
Fauchard.
Quarterstaff.
Staff.
Heavy Throwing Axes.
Horn Bow.
Rus Bow.
ALL horses.
That about covers it.
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bar maces always own me, I think I've been psyched out by them.
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Arabian Warhorse
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Maul, removes blocking skill out of the equation. Only high agi builds have a chance of evading it
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I want to see longer weapons slowed down a lot and with increased damage. Not all weapons should be made to be perfect duel weapons. If you complain that gameplay is slow, you should grab a faster weapon. You can't have great range, great speed, AND great damage. Choose 2.
Now this is a brilliant idea. I mean seriuslly, I doubt you could have dueled anyone with a greatsword in the medieval ages. Gswords really should have a supporting weapon role like long pikes and HA. Althou im a big fan of Gswords, it really makes sence to give am bigger damage but make em lot slower, which makes em useless in duels against shorter weapons.
Thou just one prob than. The Bastard and other 2h weapons should also be nerfed, cause than wed have half the server spamming those.
And other thing is that when I carry the gsword I dont feel OP. By god I really dont. Ive been other classes too and when it was greatsword user vs me, I never felt like I was in a way shittier situation than him. When I met a guy carring a pike, shield or an awpike....than I knew I was f*cked.
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Maul, removes blocking skill out of the equation. Only high agi builds have a chance of evading it
Wrong, I can outspam 20/21 great maul builds as a 36/3 build.
Block sideswings, when he goes for the overhead, spam him, unless you're using the Long Maul or something abysmally slow that's under 85 speed, you should be able to outspam them fine.
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yep, great maul overhead is basically slowest attack in game, if you start your swing when he does, 95% of swings will beat him. You only lose when you hesitate against it.
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Pretty much all 1h -> Because left strike is crazy fast and so often spammed like there was no other direction. Also because I constantly see even tincans get KD'ed by hilariously small hammers.
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every horse, every range weapon, everything that has crushtrough
pikes/longspear are also annoying when fighting 1v2+ but atleast you can someonewhat counter that by running away lol
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Block sideswings, when he goes for the overhead, spam him
True. Backpeddaling and sidemoving makes it harder for gmauler to hit you with overhead because of nerfed turning speed.
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Pretty much all 1h -> Because left strike is crazy fast and so often spammed like there was no other direction. Also because I constantly see even tincans get KD'ed by hilariously small hammers.
Hahaha
Katana spammer crying how one handers are OP and of course GTX +1 that :lol:
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Wrong, I can outspam 20/21 great maul builds as a 36/3 build.
Block sideswings, when he goes for the overhead, spam him, unless you're using the Long Maul or something abysmally slow that's under 85 speed, you should be able to outspam them fine.
Exept Im an archer, slow weak short weapon and close to no athlectics cant beat a maul, but can beat all else with enought skill.
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Exept Im an archer, slow weak short weapon and close to no athlectics cant beat a maul, but can beat all else with enought skill.
Haha I remember Gnjus doing overhead to an archer. Archer tried to defend himself with a pickaxe or that small hammer and Gnjus crushed through his block, hit his ugly face but archer was still alive and all in all managed to escape lol... Gmauler can't catch archer because Gmaul is terribly heavy.
Can't remember if it was like archer was knocked down but gnjus was bumped by his own cav or maybe it was just that archer managed to escape... I don't remember perfectly
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Spamitars and all other curved blade weapons which have retarded models and nonsense hitboxes with phantom range, used mostly by those who need such an handicap to compensate the lack of skill. :rolleyes:
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Hahaha
Katana spammer crying how one handers are OP and of course GTX +1 that :lol:
Heh, I'm not good enough to know how to spam with it. But I suppose everyone who owns a katana is called a spammer by default. :)
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dont hate anythink........only crybaby's who constantly complain about something....
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Tor's duel-wielding spam combination of Great Long Axe (in front) and Leshma's legs sticking out of his ass, makes it kinda impossible to surprise him.
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the pike is the best. I hate katana and any japanese weapon because they encourage spamming.
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I have a hard time seeing the steel pick, and the scimitar always seems to have a longer length than it really has. Curved. Swords.
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Glaive - No comment.
Longspear - No comment.
Bar mace - Must have a knockdown rate of 80-90%. :mad:
Any crossbow/bow - Because they kill me.
Throwing lances - I stay away from those like fat kids from diet coke.
Flamberge - OP!!
^^ Plus maul.
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Danish Greatsword, German Greatsword, Great Sword, Heavy Great Sword, Sword of War, Highland Claymore
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Wrong, I can outspam 20/21 great maul builds as a 36/3 build.
Block sideswings, when he goes for the overhead, spam him, unless you're using the Long Maul or something abysmally slow that's under 85 speed, you should be able to outspam them fine.
You're lucky only shit players resort to great mauls to achieve any kind of greatness, even I as a great mauler was not afraid of anyone in a 1 vs 1.
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Ah I love fighting maulers! Crushthrough adds diversity to the game, and the mauls are VERY well balanced. Only times I've lost to them is when I made a mistake in my footwork or as someone else pointed out - hesitated.
If anything I'd say the game needs MORE weapons that require a dramatic change in one's playstyle in order to defeat. I don't mean more crushthrough weapons, but more weapons with unique traits.
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Everyone in this thread who mentions Glaive is because he/she has lost a duel against me. :wink:
Steel Pick, Elite Scimitar is my pick.
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the bec de corbin at all.
As a guy that is normally at the top of the boards on NA siege, the thing that I hate fighting more than anything would have to be when I'm by myself and run into a shielder and a pikeman working together. A good supporting pikeman can own.
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Serge's gauntlets.
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Spamitars, mauls and crossbow.
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I notice that many people are mentioning various 1h as being OP. Steel pick, flanged mace, warhammer, scimitar, etc. are all 1h.
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Having read this thread through, I can now conclude that all weapons are op. Good job balancing it dev team.
Regarding maulers, I often attack them on purpose because I can usually kill them. I can believe what's so hard in doing it. They're slow and have pitiful range. Useful weapons of course but they definitely have obvious drawbacks. Same with other "op" weapons. It takes some skill to use them right. You can always spot a good ninja from a bad one.
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Everything with ghost reach and way too wide and/or long hit boxes, not fair if it damages before the thing actually hits me!
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1h are OP? Too many trolls here.
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yep, great maul overhead is basically slowest attack in game.
Pretty sure long maul is slower, and the real slowest weapon in the game is morningstar with a shield.
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Danish Greatsword, German Greatsword, Great Sword, Heavy Great Sword, Sword of War, Highland Claymore
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Pretty much all 1h -> Because left strike is crazy fast and so often spammed like there was no other direction. Also because I constantly see even tincans get KD'ed by hilariously small hammers.
So you hate:
Practice dagger, knife, khyber knife, club, cudgel, torch, wooden stick, sickle, hatchet peasant knife, cleaver, etc....
Sorry, but you're officially a pussy.
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Rus Bow, in fact, I dislike every bow.
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I hate all heavy gloves, they hurt. Also nodachi, it sucks.
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Rusbow- IT'S FUCKING BULLSHIT GODDAMMIT.
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I notice that many people are mentioning various 1h as being OP. Steel pick, flanged mace, warhammer, scimitar, etc. are all 1h.
I would like to clarify that none of the weapons I dislike are OP. I just have difficulty fighting against them.
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I Dont Hate weapons, i hate cav
i was cav myself once..... and truly seeing the battlefield from a perspective of a shielder, cav just ruins the fun, you only need a little skill and i had already mastered it meaning top 5 almost all cav maps, i stoped playing cause i was ruining the game to others not because i didnt like it, i hope other cav will understand that as well, and shunne ppl like Tommyhu, cause they are just trolls.
Get Off your Horse!!! lets have more fun together in the meele until chadz make cav fair.
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The only weapons I don't like pikes and such because they pose danger to my abilityto bump, trample, and otherwise ride my cataphract up someone's arse. And some of the longer two handed swords, but my hatred is more so for the two handed stab animations than anything. :)
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Mauls --> Really can't pick an easier weapon for siege. If you don't get at least get 2 to 1 kd with one on siege you should delete this game. What is the point of having a weapon that goes thru blocks in a game that demands so much skill from every other weapon.
Glaive -> Seems faster then it actually is, all you have to do is swing and backpaddle and wear good armour 2 to 1 kd no prob.
Pikes -> Should not be able to jump and spin with one, period. Hitting a guy standing right beside you with one of those is just wrong. I know the patch was meant to fix this but it really did not.
P.S Not a fan of the last patch. Made overheads really really unreliable.
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Mauls --> Really can't pick an easier weapon for siege. If you don't get at least get 2 to 1 kd with one on siege you should delete this game. What is the point of having a weapon that goes thru blocks in a game that demands so much skill from every other weapon.
Well, in a game with crazy strong ranged (Native), where everyone is basically forced to have a shield, a counter to turtling is desirable.