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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Fuma Kotaro on July 22, 2012, 03:24:00 pm
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Trident
Type:Polearm
Requirement:2 strength
Weight:1.5
Slots:2
Upkeep:4 gold
Shop price:64 gold
Value:32 gold
Speed:89
Length:159
Thrust:21 pierce
Swing:15 blunt
Military Fork
Type:Polearm
Requirement:10 strength
Weight:1.5
Slots:1
Upkeep:229 gold
Shop price:3,273 gold
Value:1,637 gold
Speed:94
Length:135
Thrust:28 pierce
Swing:15 blunt
That are the stats of the two weapons I want to compare
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You can clearly see that the Trident has 3 spikes so I'm asking myself why the fuck does it less damage this should hurt more?
Maybe the admins could change the stats and make it acceptable.
If you come with the argument Trident is a peasant weapon. Listen yes the Trident was a peasant weapon but it was also used for the war in some countries so it wasn't only a peasant weapon but the fork is. Also guys like Poseidon aren't peasants and the indian god shiva.
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Some countries might have had a trident expressly made for the purpose of killing and battle. The trident in cRPG was expressly made for fishing.
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Also guys like Poseidon aren't peasants and the indian god shiva.
Gods don't exists (except for Odin ua.)
Btw it even says "Military Fork" and looks more dangerous.
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Gods don't exists (except for Odin ua.)
Btw it even says "Military Fork" and looks more dangerous.
My poseidon exists *.*
well then dont have a look at the name or compare it with the pitch fork here
Pitch Fork
Type:Polearm
Requirement:-
Weight:1.5
Slots:2
Upkeep:8 gold
Shop price:127 gold
Value:64 gold
Speed:90
Length:154
Thrust:23 pierce
Swing:15 blunt
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because the trident should be at least better than the pitch fork
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Don't only look at the damage but also at other stats:
Trident has 2 less damage, but only half upkeep (even if those 4 gold seem like a joke) and more range. They are very similar, there is actually no reason to buff or nerf either weapon.
Also for that upkeep, they are really the best weapons worth their gold.
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Well I wanted to avoid the repair discussion because I don't care about the upkeep it could be more when they at least make the trident better I should have posted this in realism corner but noone has a look there
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Some countries might have had a trident expressly made for the purpose of killing and battle. The trident in cRPG was expressly made for fishing.
Oh, is that what those guys are doing when they run off to a far corner of the map next to a lake?
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Some countries might have had a trident expressly made for the purpose of killing and battle. The trident in cRPG was expressly made for fishing.
Well then add at least fishs to crpg and you can sell them for gold in the shop
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Oh, is that what those guys are doing when they run off to a far corner of the map next to a lake?
I m no leecher Oo my equipment is nearly fully loomed
Felt hat +1
Worn robe +3
Rus cav +3
mail gaunt +3
trident +3
If you didnt mean that : D nice
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I will take no part of this discussion before it's moved to realism board.
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I will take no part of this discussion before it's moved to realism board.
This topic has been moved to realism discussion.
tell me your opinion
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Stabbing three spikes into someone to the same depth compared to two takes 1,5 times the force. Two deep wounds are better than 3 shallow wounds.
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Stabbing three spikes into someone to the same depth compared to two takes 1,5 times the force. Two deep wounds are better than 3 shallow wounds.
3 poseidon stabs hurt more D:
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Stabbing three spikes into someone to the same depth compared to two takes 1,5 times the force. Two deep wounds are better than 3 shallow wounds.
True, but 3 spikes are also heavier than 2
Give the trident +.3 weight, +1 swing damage, and bump up the price by 30G.
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Dont forget the thrust dmg
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The fork in my kitchen drawer has less piercing power then the icepick in my drawer, I was always confused as well becausethe fork as 4 times as many points.
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After all the hay picked up with the trident it has become dull whilst the "military" pitchfork gets sharpened every now and then by the hero who will die by the hand of the peasant with trident which he used to scoop up horse shit the other day.
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I think we can add "fishing trident" as hard weapon for war... trident for hay is really crap in pierce cause curve picks...
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Stabbing three spikes into someone to the same depth compared to two takes 1,5 times the force. Two deep wounds are better than 3 shallow wounds.
This is why physics must be taught in school.
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What do you mean ?
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I think we can add "fishing trident" as hard weapon for war... trident for hay is really crap in pierce cause curve picks...
yep adding a fishing trident and the "war trident"
fishing will be the current one and adding the war trident with better stats and a better looking wouldnt be that bad
but 2 or 4 directional?
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The Trident was made by some poor village smith with cheap metal and its spikes will bent on the first bone it hits. The Military Fork instead was forged on a magical sky forge by a master smith with the best metal that was seen on earth until now. See the difference?
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The Trident was made by some poor village smith with cheap metal and its spikes will bent on the first bone it hits. The Military Fork instead was forged on a magical sky forge by a master smith with the best metal that was seen on earth until now. See the difference?
If you would have read the post you would realize that I wrote about the trident that it was also a warrior weapon made for war
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IN GAME the "trident" is a crap hay fork...not really a trident !
Real trident must be added in game...
are you all ok ? :mrgreen:
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IN GAME the "trident" is a crap hay fork...not really a trident !
Real trident must be added in game...
are you all ok ? :mrgreen:
Aye master
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IN GAME the "trident" is a crap hay fork...not really a trident !
This, just look at it, its a hay fork nothing more 8-)
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This, just look at it, its a hay fork nothing more 8-)
..called "trident".... :rolleyes:
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the power of 100 tines is 100 times.
Make a pike with 10 points with 250p damage
*edit* and make them slightly curved, like the trident in crpg. If its curved it hurts more going into their body.
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but on plate the curve make it bad.... :?
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What about a Trident that is like the double sided lance from it stats? maybe a bit worse and 2 or 4 directional?
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the power of 100 tines is 100 times.
Make a pike with 10 points with 250p damage
*edit* and make them slightly curved, like the trident in crpg. If its curved it hurts more going into their body.
The more points it has the more force you need to push it into something. Always wondered why Indian fakirs sit on brand boards and not on a single nail?
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edit : trident shorter or longer than dble sided ?
Agree with before : more pics = each pic less damaging...
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shorter or longer ?
belongs to this?What about a Trident that is like the double sided lance from it stats? maybe a bit worse and 2 or 4 directional?
If so maybe longer
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Awlpike has only 1 spike but it hurts helluva lot more.
Less spikes = more win because you need less force to penetrate armor.
Think about this also: Why isn't a comb deadliest weapon ever?
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because it is made of plastic?
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True, but 3 spikes are also heavier than 2
Yes, but the trident looks like it's made of Birch tree while the other is made of Ash, which weighs more than Birch.
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You missed the point completely. Anyways, here's my take on it:
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Trident - 3 curved spikes are ideal for picking stuff from ground, not fighting
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Pitch Fork - 2 curved spikes make it easier to penetrate but its still a tool
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Military Fork - has 2 straight spikes and has no use as a tool but as a weapon because straight spike will penetrate easier and with less force, not to mention that it will take more force to bend than Pitch Fork or Trident
Yes, but the trident looks like it's made of Birch tree while the other is made of Ash, which weighs more than Birch.
But I made a new suggestion in this Thread and this is mainly about what I'm talking maybe I'll make a new post
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Look, let me explain this to you - 3 spikes will hurt less than 2 spikes, especially if they're curved.
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IMO drop Tridants damage to 18 and boost it's speed to 100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make peasants annoying as fuck.
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You all miss now the sense
I understood what you wanna say but you didn't understand what I want
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Can you explain us what you want? Because from you first post: (You can clearly see that the Trident has 3 spikes so I'm asking myself why the fuck does it less damage this should hurt more?)
I understand that you want more damage for Trident?
Formula is simple: less spikes = more damage. (pure physics)
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3 pikes make more damage places but each place is less damaged than one pike...
I think it's correct...
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Can you explain us what you want? Because from you first post: (You can clearly see that the Trident has 3 spikes so I'm asking myself why the fuck does it less damage this should hurt more?)
I understand that you want more damage for Trident?
Formula is simple: less spikes = more damage. (pure physics)
I made a new suggestion in this Threat for a new Trident at least one that is made for fighting read the posts
3 pikes make more damage places but each place is less damaged than one pike...
I think it's correct...
Seems
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Ok.... we all xant new weapon called "war trident" or "fish trident" or "fighting trident" or "Poseidon trident" with 3 right pikes... longer than dbl sized but faster....it's ok ?
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Ok.... we all xant new weapon called "war trident" or "fish trident" or "fighting trident" or "Poseidon trident" with 3 right pikes... longer than dbl sized but faster....it's ok ?
Should be the stats of the double sided lance longer maybe same speed but only 2 directional and same price class