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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Grumbs on July 20, 2012, 03:43:14 pm

Title: "Grey Area" Map Exploits
Post by: Grumbs on July 20, 2012, 03:43:14 pm
Can we discuss this without it being a witchhunt? I think its a very valid talking point, and locking the thread like that implies its not really against the rules.

So is it or isn't it? I don't care about the guy the thread was originally about and agree there was a lynching/pitchfork feel to some of that thread
Title: Re: "Grey Area" Map Exploits
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 20, 2012, 04:21:08 pm
It's some gay bullshit that shitheads do 'cuss they suck, ban them all.
and unban me! I sry I autoblock!
Title: Re: "Grey Area" Map Exploits
Post by: Grumbs on July 20, 2012, 04:25:30 pm
Well to me games always have a base point that people go to. I don't want to be the newb who doesn't remove certain parts of the game when you're allowed to do it. If you look at games like CS you always run configs that make it easier to spot players, or to even have your hits reg faster or see players sooner with interp settings. As long as its a grey area I would tend to side towards having people remove the parts of the map that you can, at least we will all be on the same page then

Editing ini's is done in every game and I don't disagree with it, as long as we know where the line is crossed into cheating territory. Its not cheating if everyone does it, like in most FPS games
Title: Re: "Grey Area" Map Exploits
Post by: a_bear_irl on July 20, 2012, 04:29:09 pm
it doesn't give you much advantage, it makes the game look like shit and we aren't playing for money, who cares?
Title: Re: "Grey Area" Map Exploits
Post by: Grumbs on July 20, 2012, 04:31:09 pm
But in games like CS you don't just ruin all the graphics, you just use settings that everyone else does to keep it on a level playing field. If you can keep half decent graphics while removing certain terrain elements then I'd like to know how
Title: Re: "Grey Area" Map Exploits
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 20, 2012, 04:33:20 pm
Blech, modifiying ini files has no problem for me. Hell several of the mods we have out there(louder hooves for example) does the same thing as that graphics ini in the other thread. What's the flavor difference? You can see me better rather than hear me better? why not just make everyone blindfolded to make it truly even.

Personally, i'd love to remove shrubs, they look like shit.
Title: Re: "Grey Area" Map Exploits
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 20, 2012, 04:34:49 pm
Quote from: Grumbs on July 20, 2012, 04:25:30 pm
Its not cheating if everyone does it, like in most FPS games
Grumbs, I gotta say, this must be the most stupid fucking thing you've ever said, same argument 99% of all autoblockers used, so using autoblock is ok? (unban plz) if everyone does something wrong it is still wrong, bitch.
Title: Re: "Grey Area" Map Exploits
Post by: Grumbs on July 20, 2012, 04:37:31 pm
No i'm talking about legal graphic tweaks. If you can tweak in the ini and remove certain things, and its A-OK then I'm not the kind of player to be the derp standing in a "haystack" thats really invisible to clued up players
Title: Re: "Grey Area" Map Exploits
Post by: Torost on July 20, 2012, 04:56:11 pm
Play with default settings. Else you miss out on the intended experience. The brush and foliage is there for a reason, to block view,for people to hide. Sure you can marginally pad your KD. But why? Its a game ..played for fun.. you are really only competing with yourself. And most likely you are the only one that really care about your KD.
Title: Re: "Grey Area" Map Exploits
Post by: Harpag on July 20, 2012, 05:02:06 pm
"Grey Area" Map Exploits:
(click to show/hide)
:wink:
Title: Re: "Grey Area" Map Exploits
Post by: Grumbs on July 20, 2012, 05:03:27 pm
Well I never liked to play games were you think you're concealed but really you aren't to experienced players. You can go in the graphics options and turn grass density down to the left, move tree degrade distance to the left so they don't obscure players, turn particle systems off so you don't see rain, turn gamma up at night etc. The graphics screen is only a front end to the games files, changing it there rather than the config doesn't really make much difference.

All that really matters is whats culturally acceptable, what people consider legit. If that thread was a "pointless witch hunt" given all that was discussed then I don't see why you shouldn't tweak what you can. Its done in every game with a competitive element to it like this. You will find its the scrubs or newbs who don't tweak if you're allowed to do it. Its not just ini files too, if you can install mods that make it easier to see players and its considered legit, then people will do it. Like the louder hooves mod (which for me isn't the main problem, its the surround sound that makes it harder to detect where cav is). Its left to the player to decide what is or isn't acceptable
Title: Re: "Grey Area" Map Exploits
Post by: Vengt037 on July 20, 2012, 05:26:37 pm
Quote from: Grumbs on July 20, 2012, 05:03:27 pm
Like the louder hooves mod (which for me isn't the main problem, its the surround sound that makes it harder to detect where cav is).

This!

 I'm glad I'm not the only one.

I'm always, getting thrown off by hoofbeats sounding like they're coming from right behind me and to the left when they're really on the other side of a building 30 meters in front of me.