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Off Topic => Spam => Topic started by: Zisa on April 05, 2011, 09:18:16 pm
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review of events:
Goretooth spawn attacks and wounds me. Runs. I type "idiot". kick. Obviously he knew who the idiot was.
I return, question this decision and greatly offend the institution of admin by telling him to 'take a pill'.
ban
I post the 'die Goretooth' thread.
Goretooth follows me to seige server and bans me there, continuing the charade.
April Fools!
It ends with devilize locking the thread and sending me some horseshit via pm.
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Since there is no NA abooze section, I may as well post it here. Perhaps it will survive or get locked, let us see.
What kind of n00b swings in spawn team wounding? It is WELL KNOWN that there is always a risk of team wounding by doing such, to deny this is rediculous. It is also a warnable / klickable / banable offense, but apparantly calling out such douchebaggery with 'IDIOT' is far far more severe a hindrance to the team and is not to be tolerated.
What is interesting is the shitstorm caused by the thread and the apparent inability to do anything but lock it and hope to sweep it under the rug. I was playing other games while this ATS/Hospitaller hate was building and bottling up, including some flak from what I considered to be easy going, laid back and level headed players.
Though I have witnessed and been subjected to pretty well since week one of my cRPG career, unwarranted bitterness from players I had previously thought were above such nonsense; It is a contagious trend to whine about a playstyle or 'class' rather then use brain and attempt to overcome an opponent, and certain people equate forum posts with in game behaviour and remain deeply offended by any perceived slight or disagreement. Some of these people are more then happy to 'pile on', after lurking for some time just waiting for the right moment to 'surprise' and revel in their great cleverness. It's the internet! But these are not the only people who obviously have grave concerns about your administration. Hey if you want to blame me for the draconian admin style you will, but you have more tools now and less of an excuse.
I seriously wonder what you did when the 'YOU SUCK' message came up in Unreal Tournament; I am guessing GTX. I thought M&B was a combat game, not 'Barbie's non sexual non threatening sleep over'.
Your refusal to man up and admit a fault is a fatal flaw, the fact that you refuse to see it is the ONLY reason I keep trying to hammer it into your head.
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I agree with you on the goretooth incident, but honestly what do you expect this thread to achieve? It's just going to be more ATS flaming you and random people defending you.
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I expect to peel the scab off of a festering wound so it can heal in the open air.
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What is your suggestion to solve all the problems?
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Random person reporting for duty.
I haven't been around long, but I've never had any negative in-game experience playing with/against Zisa as far as player conduct goes.
If events transpired the way Zisa describes them a ban seems pretty excessive, even a kick if it wasn't more than 'idiot' in response to being team wounded. I've seen far worse from people who scream bloody murder if they get team damaged.
Worth it to make a stand here and risk something worse than ban? Probably not. Still, as a player I shouldn't have to tread lightly around admin players and treat them reverently to avoid "their wrath". I'm sure that Goretooth has to deal with exponentially more shit than most admins, but it looks like the banhammer came down way too quickly in this case.
There's nothing wrong with acknowledging a mistake and fixing it. I know admins want to (and should) stay consistent and avoid arguing amongst themselves in front of the playerbase, but people will respect it if you admit reversal instead of clinging to an obviously unjust banning.
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I recommended you being unbanned. I take it back. Thanks for wasting my time. I was hoping you would handle it maturely but i guess the point isn't getting across.
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I agree with you on the goretooth incident, but honestly what do you expect this thread to achieve? It's just going to be more ATS flaming you and random people defending you.
Exactly. Sorry Zisa. It's fun playing with you, and it sucks that you are banned. But this thread will be like the other one, 2 sides flaming at each other. Making it "public" doesn't change the fact that they can do whatever they want and won't care about what people think about that situation. Talking to Goretooth and Devilize in private will have more chances of success to get you closer to an unban than this thread.
Here's a simple analogy.
You were at that party, one guy bumps you by mistake and you call him idiot. He's one of the guys who organized the party and kicks you out of the party. The party is at someone's place, so that "someone" owns the place and trusts his organizer with the task of deciding who should be in or out of his party. Now you're mad at that organizer and scream it out loud in the streets.
What are you expecting to achieve ? Even if the whole community was there to back you up, it's still their servers and they still get to decide who can play or not on it. So fighting them is totally pointless. Man up, apologize for calling him an idiot and saying to him to take pills, walk on your pride and get unbanned. Unless you do so, I doubt anything will be achieved here than more hate.
This aint kindergarten, you're both men (I hope). Act like so
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Random EU admin power abuser and tyrant reporting for duty.
I will have to disagree with Ecko here. The only solution to this situation would've been an apology from Goretooth and an unban. If the rules on NA servers at least somewhat adhere to common sense (i mean, it is the same across the ocean, right?), then the admin DID make an error here, if the situation really is as described.
I did read through the "die goretooth" thread. Whilst it is ragey and so, it does not change the fact that an error was made. And it certainly does not cross any lines, where one would get punished for intense raging/flaming (the "take a break" ban).
Is Goretooth the owner of the NA(ATS) servers? That is news to me, thought they were owned by... well, someone else. In that case, the ban still shouldn't be copied to other servers...
EVEN IF THAT IS SO - the server is connected to the database AT chadz'S CONSENT. They may decide how things are run around there, but it is still up to chadz to decide whether or not people gain xp and gold on the server. So it is in the owners' best interests to maintain order AND keep the server PUBLIC. Because that is why the server is there, to serve as a PUBLIC NA server. No private server has EVER received consent from chadz to be connected to the DB.
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Is Goretooth the owner of the NA(ATS) servers? That is news to me, thought they were owned by... well, someone else. In that case, the ban still shouldn't be copied to other servers...
All current NA servers are run by ATS.
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Goretooth is not. It was a case of mistaken identity on the poster's part. Goretooth is simply an influential player in ATS, which is the clan that runs most of the NA servers and is allied with the clan that runs the 100 man.
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Lorne is confused. The 100 NA server is run independetly from the 80 and siege. The 100 server is managed by Hospitallar_Devilize.
Close this thread, the issue was resolved and we lost a good man.
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Ecko, I see that we consider bans different on EU and NA.
On EU-forum we try to give the banned person feedback on why they're banned and when they get unbanned as fast as possible. Why is it important for people to know when they get unbanned? Because then they can accept the punishment. If you answer them, refusing to telling em how long it will keep on, they will asume its a permanent. I dont think Im the only one who assumed Zisas ban was permanent from Goretooths response, so I understand why Zisa started this thread, even if it was not a well-written post. Therefore, I think you should give Zisa a date for unban, so she knows that it will happen and can relax and wait for it.
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Hmm, I thought it was a permanent ban too.
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Quite a miscommunication here.
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I don't have a date for is unban because its up to Devilize. However i've spoken to devil and all zisa needed to do was pm him. Now i'm not so sure, i'll have to talk to him again.
In response to Zisa's ban, i don't think the punishment was appropriate and Goretooth has stepped down from being admin when i asked him to mostly because of this situation.
I don't see anyway this can be pursued. I used to tell every single person why they were kicked or banned, the rules are clearly stated on the welcome message so i'm a bit confused why i have to say anything. Most of the NA community will tell you that i am pretty informative when asked, as well that not all admins take actions like goretooth.
It comes down to the fact that the EU and NA community is different. We don't require people to write essays to get unbanned, normally we give out bans frequently but lift them as soon as someone makes a post where the ban is discussed. IF they don't make a post they dont get unbanned.
It was only yesterday that the NA admins found out that holding shift while banning will auto remove the ban in 1 hour, we are often left behind in terms of news and updates over here. So i suppose we do handle things in different ways.
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What is your suggestion to solve all the problems?
Don't let someone that rages at people for stupid things be an admin?
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Everytime I ban someone I make a post in the unban/ban section, anytime anyone bans someone while I am playing on the servers I admin on, I find the reason and make a post about it. I communicate with every person via PM or steam who wishes to talk about what happened or ways to avoid it in the future. I think we are doing a great job on the NA servers!
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Everytime I ban someone I make a post in the unban/ban section, anytime anyone bans someone while I am playing on the servers I admin on, I find the reason and make a post about it. I communicate with every person via PM or steam who wishes to talk about what happened or ways to avoid it in the future. I think we are doing a great job on the NA servers!
I personally do agree that Nindur is doing a good job at being open about bans for both why he did it and how long they last.
Keep him.
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Lorn, stop being butt-hurt and quit trolling.
It's Devilizes call, his server - not Ecko's, not Goretooth's.
The issue could be resolved by PM's and instead the crap is being smeared by people who weren't there.
Lilith, with all due respect: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2525.0.html
You nearly lost your admin by 1.2% of popular vote, not sure if you really have lessons to give out.
Guardian is quick on the ban, but he's as quick with dealing with the people on Teamspeak, Ventrilo, or PMs if they're ready to talk.
Starting a thread called "die admin" is not the smartest way to get a dialogue going - no matter the incident, no matter who started it.
I've been substituting as a teacher in a high school all month and disciplining teenagers, coming home to this garbage makes me feel like I'm still at work.
This should be locked and dealt with between Zisa and Devilize.
As Ecko stated : we just foundout about the Left Shift + Ban = temporary 30mins (or 1hour?) ban. We will be using this in the future.
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Everytime I ban someone I make a post in the unban/ban section, anytime anyone bans someone while I am playing on the servers I admin on, I find the reason and make a post about it. I communicate with every person via PM or steam who wishes to talk about what happened or ways to avoid it in the future. I think we are doing a great job on the NA servers!
Nindur i think you and most of the admins are doing amazing on the NA servers but every day i play i swear goretooth bans between 1 and 5 people its kinda ridiculous
I just thing he's a little to childish to have this power. Yes I get that he got the power of admin because he is good and or donated but with the way in which he wields it like a giant cock most of the time smacking people that deserve a warning or nothing with a ban is kinda ridiculous. I have seen him ban people multiple times for questioning what he says or saying he is ridiculous for banning someone he just banned.
And the fact that you guys allow that is mildly dis-heartening but that aside when you, gash and most of the other admins are in you guys do, do a phenomenal job!!!!
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In response to Zisa's ban, i don't think the punishment was appropriate and Goretooth has stepped down from being admin when i asked him to mostly because of this situation.
Not sure if people haven't noticed this line but it pretty much seems problem solved if Goretooth has stepped down as admin.
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Not sure if people haven't noticed this line but it pretty much seems problem solved if Goretooth has stepped down as admin.
I like you. You read.
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Hi Ecko
I was responding to this one "I recommended you being unbanned. I take it back.".
Tho, I thought it was goretooth who had the responsibility. Im not blaming you, only writing my view on the quote over here, so it was a discussion of opinions.
From what I can see, you've done a lot to solve the situation, thanks :D
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Lorn, stop being butt-hurt and quit trolling.
What I wanted to happen pretty much happened. :D :D
Thus no more trolling from me, unless you keep up your blame game tactics.
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Think this thread was made because He was still banned for unjust reasons. If shit like this happened to me and even after I was proved (was proved by gore stepping down) right and I was still banned because of it I would rage, probably harder. It's BS to get unjustly banned but it's even more BS for it to continue once every other admin and the general population agree that's it was a BS ban. Every minute you keep Zisa banned you shit on all of us.
Free Zisa and free him now or you'll never hear the end of it.
Actually it's probably too late for that. This is a PR nightmare for the NA servers.
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Every minute you keep Zisa banned you shit on all of us.
Free Zisa and free him now or you'll never hear the end of it.
I can live with that. Until you stop making stupid posts like that and start paying some money for the server i'll start peeing in your coffee too.
Mistakes happen, your not entitled to anything. :rolleyes:
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goretooth lost his admin? :| :|
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M)
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I can live with that. Until you stop making stupid posts like that and start paying some money for the server i'll start peeing in your coffee too.
Mistakes happen, your not entitled to anything. :rolleyes:
Tsk tsk ecko, mighty sour now a days aren't you? What are you going to do if we ever get more NA servers not under the Northern Empires control?
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Tsk tsk ecko, mighty sour now a days aren't you? What are you going to do if we ever get more NA servers not under the Northern Empires control?
Not sour at all...it was a poor attempt at humor for someone who thought i cared about PR when it comes to and Admin decision. If that were the case we'd have had a lot less LLJK banned. As for the Northern Empire thing....thats relatively new in respect to how long the NA servers have been running. Its not even a requirement to be an admin...
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As for the Northern Empire thing....thats relatively new in respect to how long the NA servers have been running. Its not even a requirement to be an admin...
I have a few questions about this statement.
First off, how long have we had NA servers? Secondly, who all has been allowed to have an NA server connected to the database that's NOT part of the now Northern Empire? And last but not least, can we have a current list of NA admins so that we can see how few of them have no affiliation at all with the clans that make up the Northern Empire (meaning never been a part of the clans)?
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I have a few questions about this statement.
First off, how long have we had NA servers? Secondly, who all has been allowed to have an NA server connected to the database that's NOT part of the now Northern Empire? And last but not least, can we have a current list of NA admins so that we can see how few of them have no affiliation at all with the clans that make up the Northern Empire (meaning never been a part of the clans)?
About 3 months after CRPG was made i believe NA servers came up...but there was only 1.
The Northern Empire was made about 4 months ago...long after crpg was made...the STO server is not part of the Northern Empire....and you can pm gash or devilize for the complete list of admins
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I can live with that. Until you stop making stupid posts like that and start paying some money for the server i'll start peeing in your coffee too.
Mistakes happen, your not entitled to anything. :rolleyes:
How about this,
When people donate to the server they put their name as Unban Zisa- Name here.
When we reach $75 bucks of Unban Zisa donations, Zisa is unbanned. Since apparently you have some animosity about people playing without paying this seems like a win win. You get money to keep the servers goin and the community gets to have Zisa unbanned. Maybe I'm just crazy but I just started playing and enjoy playing with my wife and I was planning on donating anyways, but I would put more in the pot if it was for a good cause. Either that or we could do girl scout cookies.
Feedback?
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Zisa will be unbanned when he pms devilize.
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I have a few questions about this statement.
First off, how long have we had NA servers? Secondly, who all has been allowed to have an NA server connected to the database that's NOT part of the now Northern Empire? And last but not least, can we have a current list of NA admins so that we can see how few of them have no affiliation at all with the clans that make up the Northern Empire (meaning never been a part of the clans)?
First: Many moons, too lazy to look up specifics
Second: The first NA server was under Garguro, who was at the time unaffiliated. The TFO server was also unaffiliated. That server died despite having lower ping and offering statistics, something I find worthy of consideration.
Third: Don't know everyone, but I've never been part of ATS or the Northern Empire.
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About 3 months after CRPG was made i believe NA servers came up...but there was only 1.
The Northern Empire was made about 4 months ago...long after crpg was made...the STO server is not part of the Northern Empire....and you can pm gash or devilize for the complete list of admins
I could have sworn you were still the leader of ATS and therefore the Northern Empire, but alrighty.
So..we've had 2 NA servers not owned by the now Northern Empire, and they've both gone under? Seems a little suspicious if you ask me.
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If you want to be considered for admin the people who own the servers have to get to know you. Join Hospitallar vent or request to join ATS vent so the people who own the servers can come to trust you, then you would have the opportunity to become an admin.
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I could have sworn you were still the leader of ATS and therefore the Northern Empire, but alrighty.
So..we've had 2 NA servers not owned by the now Northern Empire, and they've both gone under? Seems a little suspicious if you ask me.
I agree...its almost as if the best people have the most successful servers...
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I agree...its almost as if the best people have the most successful servers...
Or maybe no one else has been allowed to host the server, which I've heard is the case -.-
EDIT: I meant hosting a server right now, not in the past btw.
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Though complaints have been logged against my admins, i dont think one has been logged against me. Nor do i allow game exploitation or the such...i think that earned a little respect...as well as the map support we've done for chadz...i dunno he a curious guy.
It might also have to do with the fact that we manage our servers well, and that the community isnt big enough for another server...so theres no point
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Just to mention, I'm not part of the Northern Empire but I am an admin of the 100 man. I am not an admin of the other servers, but considering I never bothered applying I can't actually speak as to their policy towards admin recruitment. There's also Braeden and Patrick. None of us are affiliated with the Northern Empire. Well, unless Braeden snuck on a new pair of tags while I wasn't looking.
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I could have sworn you were still the leader of ATS and therefore the Northern Empire, but alrighty.
So..we've had 2 NA servers not owned by the now Northern Empire, and they've both gone under? Seems a little suspicious if you ask me.
Not quite. The first NA server was the one started by Garguro, who paid out of his own pocket. He deliberately did not join a clan to stay impartial, despite several people attempting to get him to play with them. He did eventually join ATS, because he knew and trusted Ecko. ATS took over the server not through that, however, but by being the only people who donated in significant amounts and in the long term when Garguro could no longer pay for the entire server himself. They were responsible for expanding the server from one 64 man box to the full 3 servers we have today in NA. Hospitaller took over one of those servers when their donations picked up the gap in costs. That is the situation today.
The TFO server disappeared, as far as I can tell, because ScotTFO stopped playing. He was also unaffiliated. While his server was up, however, it was generally considered the place for trolls to play and shunned by the rest of the community, despite in many ways being preferable to ATS servers (at least, I had half my ping their and I highly enjoyed the statistics).
In order to get a server linked to the database, you need the trust of chadz. That is all. The reason there are not a number of new servers is a lack of trusted people with money, and a desire among the trusted people who do have money to not spread out the community more (personally, I prefer small servers, but I understand the sentiment.)
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In order to get a server linked to the database, you need the trust of chadz. That is all. The reason there are not a number of new servers is a lack of trusted people with money, and a desire among the trusted people who do have money to not spread out the community more (personally, I prefer small servers, but I understand the sentiment.)
Have you tried hosting a server before and received that response? I've talked to a few potential owners and they all repeated that chadz said he doesn't want any more NA servers until the big update is released.
Also, it sounds like you're saying money talks, so I'd like to see how many admins donated regularly before they became admins, and how many people donate regularly and are not admins. Of course, I'm not likely to even be told who the admins are, so I highly doubt that will happen.
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Due to there being only 3 servers to choose from right now [2 Battle, 1 siege. Not counting duel server] in NA -- all On the same box.
I went to play the other night but since 2 servers had 90+ people and the other had 70, I simply could not play. They were just too laggy.
The "not enough players to warrant more NA servers" logic doesn't apply at all anymore. Especially when the most fun occurs, at least for me, on servers with 20 to 40 players. Although, that is moreso a result of the LAG as all the servers being in chicago and all on THE SAME BOX AAAAAAAAAAA (Doesn't matter if they are on different cores.) It would be Nice to have a west coast server as it is around half of the population. Really hoping SoA's Seattle server gets accepted by chadz. Why? Because there is one nice guy willing and waiting to host it for everyone. It was a sad loss to lose ScotTFO's server when we really needed another one for NA.
Anyways, Ecko was actually a pretty solid admin and would be nice having him back in the police force. He doesn't deserve any hate on these topics. He is just not fully aware of what has been going on in his absence. It went down hill when he left. Too many unnecessary bans are getting put out when a mute or kick will be more than enough. When a simple message in chat/ threat of action will result in a better conclusion.
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Anyways, Ecko was actually a pretty solid admin and would be nice having him back in the police force. He doesn't deserve any hate on these topics. He is just not fully aware of what has been going on in his absence. It went down hill when he left. Too many unnecessary bans are getting put out when a mute or kick will be more than enough. When a simple message in chat/ threat of action will result in a better conclusion.
Ecko left, the community within ATS ended up fracturing, and bad decisions were made on both sides to deal with it. All of which ended up reaching it's climax with Zisa's ban. Perhaps things can return to being somewhat normal again, but that just has to do with "grudges" that are currently being held by some people.
Nice quick summary of what has occurred!
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I had to pay 300 dollars to get admin........but at least I can make some of it back......we get paid a small amount for admining on the servers everyday, depending on how many people are on the servers and our admin action ratio
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I had to pay 300 dollars to get admin........but at least I can make some of it back......we get paid a small amount for admining on the servers everyday, depending on how many people are on the servers and our admin action ratio
Ahh I love you now Nindur. I'm sorry about that argument the other day <3.
But yeah, more servers with new management and new cities would be nice. I'm pretty sure the fact that we have ONLY 3 servers and are having so much problems on them is scaring away some newbies :(
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Zisa, if it makes you feel any better when I went onto the NA servers a few weeks back to mess about on my HA late at night, I killed two of Goretooths team mates with one arrow each then I face shotted Goretooth as I rode past him, I think he pushed alt+x before his corpse even hit the floor as his name was off the scoreboard instantly. He was planning on leaving maybe? I prefer to imagine he rage quitted. :lol:
Glad it has all been sorted out though.
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I had to pay 300 dollars to get admin........but at least I can make some of it back......we get paid a small amount for admining on the servers everyday, depending on how many people are on the servers and our admin action ratio
Troll.
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Troll.
You gotta admit it was creative.
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You gotta admit it was creative.
I do admit that I laughed, and it was constructed rather well, heh. It deserved a +1.
Speaking of which, you should prepare your case soon for your unmute, as it looks just around the corner. I shall certainly try and help your case if I can.
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I do admit that I laughed, and it was constructed rather well, heh. It deserved a +1.
Speaking of which, you should prepare your case soon for your unmute, as it looks just around the corner. I shall certainly try and help your case if I can.
I currently plan on whining to kalam in vent the next time I see him. If you want to get to on his good side much crying is needed. (I'm joking, of course ;) )
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Another case of the diseases in the NA admins minds, the diseases of power abuse and severe cunt syndrome.
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Another case of the diseases in the NA admins minds, the diseases of power abuse and severe cunt syndrome.
Actually it's not another case, but thanks for your input.
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Another case of the diseases in the NA admins minds, the diseases of power abuse and severe cunt syndrome.
You're still bitter about that?
Really?
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You're still bitter about that?
Really?
...what history am I missing?
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Close this thread for the following reasons-
a- goretooth has steppted down
b- zisa just needs to pm dev to get unbanned
c- no other major complaints have been filed against other admins
basicly the problem is solved and the valid points have been made
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Just make up pls. IMO both made a wrong decision.
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Just make up pls. IMO both made a wrong decision.
pref with tongue.
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I do admit that I laughed, and it was constructed rather well, heh. It deserved a +1.
Speaking of which, you should prepare your case soon for your unmute, as it looks just around the corner. I shall certainly try and help your case if I can.
MOAR -1
GO
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MOAR -1
GO
See, I'm not a troll in comparision to huey.
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Yay though I walk through the valley of the shadow of mute, I fear not silence, I fear not rebuke.
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...what history am I missing?
He got into an argument with Garguro when he was told to stop shit talking, and got himself perma-banned.
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He got into an argument with Garguro when he was told to stop shit talking, and got himself perma-banned.
And he's still butt hurt? Daymn.
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And he's still butt hurt? Daymn.
He's also EU if I remember correctly.
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He's also EU if I remember correctly.
That was a given silly :D
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If you want to be considered for admin the people who own the servers have to get to know you. Join Hospitallar vent or request to join ATS vent so the people who own the servers can come to trust you, then you would have the opportunity to become an admin.
Oh, snap. I can apply now? :lol:
Have you tried hosting a server before and received that response? I've talked to a few potential owners and they all repeated that chadz said he doesn't want any more NA servers until the big update is released.
This is the case for Acre, sadly...
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Geh, I want an Acre server as you all seem like nice fellows... I would be tempted to apply for admin if you needed any extra ones...
Regardless, I wonder who shall be the next Admins for the 100 man and Siege servers, seeing as we are missing two now....
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Geh, I want an Acre server as you all seem like nice fellows... I would be tempted to apply for admin if you needed any extra ones...
Regardless, I wonder who shall be the next Admins for the 100 man and Siege servers, seeing as we are missing two now....
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Guidelines for Admins: They're important. And yes, I'll keep you in mind when/if we get the DB link.
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Guidelines for Admins: They're important. And yes, I'll keep you in mind when/if we get the DB link.
You know I'm going to be applying too, right? :)
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People still have hope to achieve something against NA admins and ATS?
HEH
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Just make up pls. IMO both made a wrong decision.
Just in case you missed it the first time.
You honestly went from using your ban to point out a greater underlying issue in need of being resolved(one that seems to have been already) when dealing with certain NA admins to promoting self important bullshit with your thread posts, Zisa.
Kinda wish this thread could be locked, honestly.
On a side note, the history lesson of how the NA servers came to be was pretty interesting!
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Just in case you missed it the first time.
You honestly went from using your ban to point out a greater underlying issue in need of being resolved(one that seems to have been already) when dealing with certain NA admins to promoting self important bullshit with your thread posts, Zisa.
Kinda wish this thread could be locked, honestly.
On a side note, the history lesson of how the NA servers came to be was pretty interesting!
eh? I haven't posted since page one, wtf?
One a more important to myself note..
Though I have been told I am unbanned from the 80 man, I just tried, again, to get in and still get the 'banned' message.
So I am glad you feel it is resolved.. for you.
100 man well, I guess you better not ask.
EDIT: I can play on the 80