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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Strider on July 10, 2012, 06:47:39 pm

Title: Mace nerfed slightly too much?
Post by: Strider on July 10, 2012, 06:47:39 pm
During the spand of a few months, in multiple patches the 1 slotted short blunt weapon known as the Mace was bit by bit nerfed to settle its awesomeness.

The Mace went down from:
30 blunt to 28 blunt damage
100 speed to 98 speed rating

I currently play an arbalest xbowmen. So the Mace is an option to choose from as a secondary melee 1 slotted weapon.
But i find no urge to ever equipped it to my player anymore because it isn't nearly as great as it used to be.
Also it costs more than 4,000 gold. The weapon is mostly used by archers and xbowmen and totally sucks with a sheild.

All I ask is that the Mace's stats would be changed slightly back up to 29 blunt and 99 speed.
This way the Mace will be balanced and not too nerfed to where hardly anybody uses it.

Thanks.

Title: Re: Mace nerfed slightly too much?
Post by: Torben on July 10, 2012, 06:49:33 pm
slightly off topic,  but same thing happened to the plated charger.  unnerf!
Title: Re: Mace nerfed slightly too much?
Post by: Konrax on July 10, 2012, 06:53:53 pm
I think it was balanced based on its cost compared to 1h alternatives.

So to make it any better would have to make it more expensive.
Title: Re: Mace nerfed slightly too much?
Post by: Teeth on July 10, 2012, 06:55:16 pm
It was crazily OP, its still a great weapon, not underpowered at all.
Title: Re: Mace nerfed slightly too much?
Post by: Lactating Vegetables on July 10, 2012, 07:10:23 pm
use the fighting axe? it has 1h and 2h modes, does good damage and over all is pretty nifty.
Title: Re: Mace nerfed slightly too much?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 10, 2012, 07:32:59 pm
I don't think it was nerfed too much.  Personally any weapon that can be wielded as a 2h should be 2 slots (in my opinion).  Just the fact that you can use a 2h'ed weapon that is 1 slot is a huge advantage for you.  In a pinch you can pick up a better 2h'ed weapon and be proficient in it.  Someone who uses a 1h/1slot weapon does not have the option to pick up a better weapon if they run out of bolts/arrows/throwing weapons, or if they are the last one alive.  Well they do, but in theory they could already be using those better 1h weapons, since they are all 1 slot.

It's still a really nice weapon, and you are (in theory) proficient in 2handed weapons, so you can pick up any 2h'er on the field and wield it proficiently.
Title: Re: Mace nerfed slightly too much?
Post by: Gurnisson on July 10, 2012, 07:34:14 pm
Quote from: SgtTeeh on July 10, 2012, 06:55:16 pm
It was crazily OP, its still a great weapon, not underpowered at all.
Title: Re: Mace nerfed slightly too much?
Post by: zagibu on July 10, 2012, 10:32:05 pm
Yeah this thing on an AGI char is devastating. I can never judge the reach correctly, I always think I'm safe, and KLONK I'm lying on the ground.
Title: Re: Mace nerfed slightly too much?
Post by: XyNox on July 11, 2012, 12:49:50 am
Quote from: zagibu on July 10, 2012, 10:32:05 pm
Yeah this thing on an AGI char is devastating. I can never judge the reach correctly, I always think I'm safe, and KLONK I'm lying on the ground.

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Title: Re: Mace nerfed slightly too much?
Post by: Jarlek on July 11, 2012, 03:54:40 am
Quote from: Konrax on July 10, 2012, 06:53:53 pm
I think it was balanced based on its cost compared to 1h alternatives.

So to make it any better would have to make it more expensive.
This

Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on July 10, 2012, 07:32:59 pm
I don't think it was nerfed too much.  Personally any weapon that can be wielded as a 2h should be 2 slots (in my opinion).  Just the fact that you can use a 2h'ed weapon that is 1 slot is a huge advantage for you.  In a pinch you can pick up a better 2h'ed weapon and be proficient in it.  Someone who uses a 1h/1slot weapon does not have the option to pick up a better weapon if they run out of bolts/arrows/throwing weapons, or if they are the last one alive.  Well they do, but in theory they could already be using those better 1h weapons, since they are all 1 slot.

It's still a really nice weapon, and you are (in theory) proficient in 2handed weapons, so you can pick up any 2h'er on the field and wield it proficiently.
And this.
Title: Re: Mace nerfed slightly too much?
Post by: Adamar on July 11, 2012, 04:03:54 am
I voted no, because the mace is my secondary weapon as an archer, and even with crappy melee stats it doesn't disapoint.
Title: Re: Mace nerfed slightly too much?
Post by: Strider on July 11, 2012, 07:32:56 am
Well w/e I tried...
My beloved Mace will never be restored to glory  :cry:
Title: Re: Mace nerfed slightly too much?
Post by: Rextard on July 30, 2012, 05:26:16 am
When it was the spiked mace I had it deadly-fied. It's not as glorious anymore, but it's still clearly the best melee weapon in the game.
Title: Re: Mace nerfed slightly too much?
Post by: Phew on July 30, 2012, 02:48:25 pm
It still blows its one-handed counterparts (iberian/military hammer/winged mace/warhammer/etc) out of the water, in terms of speed and effective reach (thanks to 2h animations).

If I was after a 1-slot twohander, I'd loom a Fighting axe. That thing is nasty.