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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Spook Island on July 10, 2012, 05:11:04 am

Title: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Spook Island on July 10, 2012, 05:11:04 am
Undeniable proof that it is very realistic that you can spin and attack at 22 seconds into the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2p46I57Fvc

If that amateur can do something like that with a longspear, I'm pretty sure a level 5+ lifelong weapon master of the art would more than be able to do the same.

Not to mention there was this topic where the majority of players voted they wanted the nerf gone.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,33744.0.html


1. Visually Proven to be realistic
2. Majority of players vote against the nerf

I think this is a pretty open and shut case.

Did I mention these mechanics have been in the mod for the better part of 3 years and nobody complained until a few polespinners started going to town on people who didn't know how to block down?
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Konrax on July 10, 2012, 07:28:03 am
You do know that a red tassel spear like that weighs like 1/30th of what a pike does right?

EDIT: Not to hate on your point, it would be great to limit it to certain weapons but apparently its impossible.

I would much rather see removal of jump attacks on polearms maybe instead?
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Molly on July 10, 2012, 09:23:48 am
Undeniable proof that it is very realistic that you can spin and attack at 22 seconds into the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2p46I57Fvc

If that amateur can do something like that with a longspear, I'm pretty sure a level 5+ lifelong weapon master of the art would more than be able to do the same.

Not to mention there was this topic where the majority of players voted they wanted the nerf gone.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,33744.0.html


1. Visually Proven to be realistic
2. Majority of players vote against the nerf

I think this is a pretty open and shut case.

Did I mention these mechanics have been in the mod for the better part of 3 years and nobody complained until a few polespinners started going to town on people who didn't know how to block down?

Why are you still alive? Can't you just die already?

And please, for the love of God, please...

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Nobody gives a damn about you, your opinion and your so-called facts. People just don't. Devs even less than "just don't". They don't even read this crap. Just... die... please.
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Vkvkvk on July 10, 2012, 10:09:22 am
Yeah, good luck putting any sort of strength behind your fancy red tassel spear spinning that's only used as form and not for actual fighting.

Also have fun getting stabbed mid-spin because you fuckin' love showing your back to the opponent.
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Bulzur on July 10, 2012, 10:33:09 am
We so need the whirlwind.
It will be like an uneffective feint, just used to show off, with no attack animation behind, and that lasts for 2sec at least.

Oh, and for the OP sugg : NO.
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Zerran on July 10, 2012, 11:48:21 am
Would just like to point out that the turning speed nerf has not stopped spin thrusts on pikes and longspears at all (or for that matter even had much of an effect on them). It just screws over every other weapon.  :lol:
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Molly on July 10, 2012, 11:58:09 am
Would just like to point out that the turning speed nerf has not stopped spin thrusts on pikes and longspears at all (or for that matter even had much of an effect on them). It just screws over every other weapon.  :lol:
Wrong. Just wrong.
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Zerran on July 10, 2012, 12:03:46 pm
Wrong. Just wrong.

Really? I've been getting spin thrust kills all day every day with my pike.  :wink:

The only time the nerf bothers me is when I try and use my sidearm or any other 4D weapon. Overheads and thrusts on those are a pain in the ass now.
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Molly on July 10, 2012, 12:08:04 pm
It's wrong cuz the lolstab-helicopter moves are gone. That was the whole point of the "change".
And everybody complaining just fails to adapt.
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Zerran on July 10, 2012, 12:09:33 pm
It's wrong cuz the lolstab-helicopter moves are gone. That was the whole point of the "change".
And everybody complaining just fails to adapt.

If you mean with 2 handers then yes. Pikes and longspears, however, are still very capable of using helicopter attacks.
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 10, 2012, 12:11:46 pm
nope
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Bulzur on July 10, 2012, 12:13:20 pm
If you mean with 2 handers then yes. Pikes and longspears, however, are still very capable of using helicopter attacks.

On NA, yes.
On EU, no.
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Molly on July 10, 2012, 12:16:03 pm
On NA, yes.
On EU, no.
Does this imply that NA got a different change in turn-speed or no changes at all?
Wondering...
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Zerran on July 10, 2012, 12:17:45 pm
Does this imply that NA got a different change in turn-speed or no changes at all?
Wondering...

NA has the turn speed nerf.

But I'm done here, if you refuse that much to believe me I give up.
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: Molly on July 10, 2012, 01:02:16 pm
NA has the turn speed nerf.

But I'm done here, if you refuse that much to believe me I give up.
We probably just have a different definition of the helicopter-lolstabbing. My guess is it wasn't as bad on NA as it was on EU.
Title: Re: Completely Remove the Vertical Attack Spin Nerf.
Post by: cmp on July 10, 2012, 01:08:57 pm
We don't balance based on realism or whiners. Denied.