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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Spook Island on July 10, 2012, 04:56:35 am

Title: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Spook Island on July 10, 2012, 04:56:35 am
This has probably been discussed before... but...

Would it be in any way possible to create separate balance mechanics for the NA and EU servers?

Let's say NA players could permanently go back to how the game was 2-3 months ago.

And EU players would be totally free to nerf the game as much as they wanted.

This way we wouldn't have our mechanics held hostage by a culture of gamers who prefer a vastly different approach to the game.
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Strider on July 10, 2012, 05:21:54 am
Spook Island your posts seem to have a small glimpse of my opinion in each of them.  :mrgreen:

But I beleive not all of NA agrees on the same thing. Neither does EU.
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Spook Island on July 10, 2012, 05:35:42 am
Spook Island your posts seem to have a small glimpse of my opinion in each of them.  :mrgreen:

But I beleive not all of NA agrees on the same thing. Neither does EU.

Too true.  But I'd definitely wager NA players prefer the competitive rules pre nerf-storm.

It would also give people a chance to make the decision on what rules they'd actually prefer to play by.

I have a distinct feeling the continuation of unnecessary nerfs would drive players to steadily abandon that style of governance.
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Rhekimos on July 10, 2012, 08:42:54 am
To be honest, I'd probably play on NA more if this came to be. Not that it has any chance.

Fracturing the mod in this way simply isn't an option.

Also game balance shouldn't be used for making that annoying class less popular. If game balancing did less of this, EU and NA differences in weapon and class popularity wouldn't matter.
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Vibe on July 10, 2012, 09:15:40 am
seems someone is hurt by the changes
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: rufio on July 10, 2012, 09:19:27 am
yes this spookisland scrub needs a big dose of visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Molly on July 10, 2012, 09:38:15 am
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Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Spook Island on July 11, 2012, 12:29:54 am
seems someone is hurt by the changes

Honestly I just think Americans like a more competitive playstyle and would prefer not to have their mechanics watered down to appeal to a few vocal EU players, who whined after having their day ruined by a polespinner, until the balancers decided to cave to unreasonable cries.

Americans like competition.

I don't see why we should have our mechanics held hostage by a different culture every time a few people get upset that somebody beat them.

Seems pretty stupid to me.
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on July 11, 2012, 12:33:36 am
Find your own Dev team then.
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 11, 2012, 12:35:31 am
I generally don't mind the nerfs of the last 8 months to a year, but I would have preferred if they didn't nerf classes and equipment and instead focused on other things to spend their time on.  But then the balancers would be out of a job.

I do really like the idea of going and retweaking every weapon individually and for example on pole-axe type weapons, adding blunt damage if you swing short of the end of the weapon (and it would obviously be low blunt damage).

I still really love c-rpg, and can't get enough of it, but I'd prefer less nerfs overall.  I have thought for a year, and still do to this day, that the game is really well balanced between the classes, and nothing in the game is overpowered to the point of needing a nerf.  99% of the time something is "overpowered" is because people are not correctly countering it. 

Players, take responsibility in your own hands. I have faith in your ability to figure out what can counter a class, equipment or tactic by the enemy, without needing the developers to intervene on your behalf.
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Spook Island on July 11, 2012, 12:57:07 am
Find your own Dev team then.

Honestly, I think we could leave the game as it was 3 months ago and it would still be vastly better than anywhere the game would go in the future; especially if these recent patches are any sign of a continuing trend.

So yeah, this works just fine for me.
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: rufio on July 11, 2012, 01:09:03 am
youre just a fat nuub who thought he was skillfull in this game but is realising he is a mediocre player, and now is blaming it on other  things instead of seeing the truth and dealing with it  :lol:
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Leshma on July 11, 2012, 01:17:11 am
I wish cRPG NA had different dev team but that's not possible.

Being in their skin isn't easy, having to listen to Paul's bad jokes about Americans all the time...
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Spook Island on July 11, 2012, 01:35:13 am
I wish cRPG NA had different dev team but that's not possible.

Being in their skin isn't easy, having to listen to Paul's bad jokes about Americans all the time...

Trust me, we're used to getting teased.  It doesn't matter to us.

It's kind of like your little brother you saved from getting beat up, all throughout high school, trying to give you a hard time so he can build his self esteem back up a bit.

The only thing we don't like is having the things we enjoy get ruined without having any say in the matter.
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Miwiw on July 11, 2012, 01:37:49 am
This is one game. Live with it.
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Spook Island on July 11, 2012, 01:40:34 am
To be honest, I'd probably play on NA more if this came to be.

This is definitely what would happen.  EU players would steadily abandon their servers; sacrificing ping for the greater benefit of fun and excitement. Which is a large part of the reason I recommended it.

Let competition drive out the inferior product.

Capitalism is a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: cmp on July 11, 2012, 01:41:48 am
Feel free to host servers running the older version. Not connected to the database obviously.
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Spook Island on July 11, 2012, 01:42:55 am
This is one game. Live with it.

Saving the spirit of the game is worth it to me.   
Making the decision to ultimately "live with" bad choices and direction is how all great things come to an end if history has shown us anything.
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Leshma on July 11, 2012, 01:44:47 am
TThe only thing we don't like is having the things we enjoy get ruined without having any say in the matter.

What makes you think EU side of this community has something to do with decisions being made by mod developers?
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: TurmoilTom on July 11, 2012, 01:53:30 am
What makes you think EU side of this community has something to do with decisions being made by mod developers?

Unfortunately (*giggle*), we'll have to wait a while to see Spook's answer to that question!
Title: Re: Separate balance mechanics for NA and EU servers
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on July 11, 2012, 03:11:29 am
Think it's like this already.
Who has polestun?
Who has dead body swing through?