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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Tony007rammstein on July 03, 2012, 08:47:31 am

Title: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Tony007rammstein on July 03, 2012, 08:47:31 am
Why there are throwing knives and daggers which dont have a second mode? If i can use stones like knuckles why cant I use daggers/knives also in melee?

There is a little example, how this could be used in close fight:

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As u can notice, I've got rather little knive. In game it is quite bigger, so it should be easyer to use it in melee.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Seadle on July 03, 2012, 11:56:35 am
I love how sexy that hand of yours is.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Vibe on July 03, 2012, 12:04:11 pm
very womanly hands indeed
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Tony007rammstein on July 03, 2012, 07:34:27 pm
I am glad that u like it ^^
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Christo on July 03, 2012, 07:38:40 pm
Because the thrown model can't flip on changing modes, so in melee mode you'd attack people with the handle.

I don't know if WSE or smth can fix it.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Seastalker on July 04, 2012, 03:09:37 pm
Because the thrown model can't flip on changing modes

It can. See Darts/War darts.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Ptolemy on July 04, 2012, 06:00:21 pm
It can. See Darts/War darts.

Or any kind of thrown spear-type weapon.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Haboe on July 04, 2012, 07:11:27 pm
I think he means that unlike the straight weps (darts spears and such) the knife model cant flip atm since there is no animation for it.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Christo on July 04, 2012, 07:45:08 pm
I think he means that unlike the straight weps (darts spears and such) the knife model cant flip atm since there is no animation for it.

This.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: XyNox on July 04, 2012, 08:27:47 pm
This.

I dont get it. For attacking there is the dagger animation. Flipping the actual model isnt animated on any weapon (?), it just flips instantly with some minor, insignificant stance correction. If you are talking about the fact that the knife would switch upside down instantly without moving hands, I could live with that.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Haboe on July 04, 2012, 08:45:48 pm
Well ye but there is no model for a melee trowing knife.
There is a model for a peasant knife normal knfie khyber knife etc, but they look different from the trowing knives. So someone should make a model for the trowing knife and dagger in melee mode.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Ptolemy on July 05, 2012, 04:56:15 am
Well ye but there is no model for a melee trowing knife.

How about... oh I don't know... the throwing knife? You don't need a new model to just flip it upside down.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Haboe on July 05, 2012, 12:25:23 pm
Thats the problem... there is no model for a trowing knife thats flipped over... If you think its so easy pls make the model for it and post it here ;)
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Digglez on July 05, 2012, 12:36:05 pm
Thats the problem... there is no model for a trowing knife thats flipped over... If you think its so easy pls make the model for it and post it here ;)

lol, open modeller program and SELECT ALL > INVERT VERTICALLY....DONE.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Haboe on July 05, 2012, 12:39:42 pm
Then do so?....
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Ptolemy on July 05, 2012, 05:19:02 pm
Thats the problem... there is no model for a trowing knife thats flipped over... If you think its so easy pls make the model for it and post it here ;)

I'm a trained 3D artist and qualified games designer... I could, easily. The point is you don't have to as the model already exists, the orientation of the model isn't an issue.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: XyNox on July 05, 2012, 06:09:40 pm
Weapon animations exist. Model exists. Way to swap model orientation exists. What is the problem already ?
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Haboe on July 06, 2012, 01:27:02 am
Way to swap model orientation exists. What is the problem already ?

That no one actually did this.
Btw its not my problem xD I was simply explaining what someone else meant.

Still think its a good idea and easy to implement.

Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Micah on July 07, 2012, 07:32:16 pm
i'd really like to have melee mode throwing daggers - actually i was always asking myself why its not been asked for long time ago =x
actually what i think is the missing step is to annoy devs  to make it happen ;D just my 2 cents =P
gl with it ^^
aaand -- indeed beautiful hands tony xP
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Ptolemy on July 08, 2012, 07:33:24 am
4/6 sided stars and snowflakes (shurikens) should also be able to be used in melee mode.

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A shuriken (Japanese 手裏剣; literally: "sword hidden in the hand") is a traditional Japanese concealed weapon that was generally used for throwing, and sometimes stabbing or slashing.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Digglez on July 08, 2012, 07:35:21 am
4/6 sided stars and snowflakes (shurikens) should also be able to be used in melee mode.

how are you going to melee with a star without making a hole in your own hand?
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Tony007rammstein on July 08, 2012, 07:39:59 pm
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how are you going to melee with a star without making a hole in your own hand?
It is possible with 4-pointed star, but with 6-blades it could not be done.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Ptolemy on July 22, 2012, 06:28:27 am
Bit of a necro here...

how are you going to melee with a star without making a hole in your own hand?

You can easily slash with a throwing star, there's a hole in the middle you could easily put a finger or two down to hold it with. Once you have a hold of it, it's not hard to go for a slashing motion over the throat. Suffice to say, historically it was done, therefore your nay-saying is rather pointless.

Also, buff.
Title: Re: Throwing knives/daggers in melee
Post by: Tony007rammstein on April 07, 2013, 03:58:30 am
yeheee almost a year passed and noone from devs noticed my topic, well done guys! Keep it going!