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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Daniisme on July 02, 2012, 11:35:15 am
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Its imposbble to play with 1 diraction attack weapons.... and its aint fair too i feel so stuipd playing with it....
Most of my deaths are bounces that arent suopsed to happen.....I still dont understand what was worng with the last polearm stab it was normal.....
Ask evrey player who use wep like mine that it isnt fun playing like this anymore.....
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dont buff damage, just less bouncing..
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It's fine, you can still do pretty damn good with it. Walt_F4 has been gone for quite a while and I saw him on two days ago. Think he went something like 12:2 the first map he got on, then 10+:0 the second. He isn't the only person I've seen pull numbers like that with only a long spear/pike, either. Polearm thrusts are still alive and able to -not- bounce, directly after the release.
To go further still, the turn speed nerf affected all classes and either 1h or pikemen got hit the hardest, for sure. But as a two hander, the majority of the time I'm getting screwed by the turn speed nerf, i'm fighting a pikeman that is thrusting and jumping around like they did before the patch. I have to hold my chambers, turn, then release. If I'm unlucky, the pikeman was spamming his thrusts and, because I had to hold to ensure a hit, I in turn am the one that ends up taking damage.
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Longspear and pike are different tho, those are nasty because of the reach and dont rely as much on spinning.
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Longspear and pike are different tho, those are nasty because of the reach and dont rely as much on spinning.
What? Are you not replying to my post? Suggesting they did something to only polearm thrusts? I'm baffled, honestly.
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The long 1s like longspear/pike/even babmoo spear wernt nerfed that hard by this, but the short ones like awlpike,spear,ashwood were destroyed. Before this patch i was looking for an awlpike on market and there wasnt 1 on for like a week, now theres like 10.
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The long 1s like longspear/pike/even babmoo spear wernt nerfed that hard by this, but the short ones like awlpike,spear,ashwood were destroyed. Before this patch i was looking for an awlpike on market and there wasnt 1 on for like a week, now theres like 10.
This. Piking isn't really any different than it was before, just a tiny bit more cumbersome. It's the shorter, faster weapons that got hit hard.
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What? Are you not replying to my post? Suggesting they did something to only polearm thrusts? I'm baffled, honestly.
Err, what? I was replying to your post, forgot to quote it :/
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The long 1s like longspear/pike/even babmoo spear wernt nerfed that hard by this, but the short ones like awlpike,spear,ashwood were destroyed. Before this patch i was looking for an awlpike on market and there wasnt 1 on for like a week, now theres like 10.
Chase is correct. The shorter up-and-down polearms got nerfed a lot, which they probably did not need or at least did not need nearly as much as they got.
As for pikemen, the positions where the turn speed change hurts the most are ones where a pikeman was already at an almost impossible disadvantage and should not be attacking from. At most other positions, the longer attack duration and lower angular change typically required due to the increased attacker-defender distance makes the turn speed change insignificant.
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Its imposbble to play with 1 diraction attack weapons.... and its aint fair too i feel so stuipd playing with it....
Most of my deaths are bounces that arent suopsed to happen.....I still dont understand what was worng with the last polearm stab it was normal.....
Ask evrey player who use wep like mine that it isnt fun playing like this anymore.....
nice spelling
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Panos stalking this : PARTA RE MALAKA
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Ashwood is still very powerful, wa HAVIN tsome fun with 1wpf the other day getting 1-2 shot kills.
The change you all are upset about is that the shorter 2directional polearms went from being one of the top dueling weapons to long to mid range support weapon.
Isn't that their purpose?
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i believe this ironic. this nerf was intended to stop sliding 2h stab and pike thrust. didnt harmed them to much but screwed over 1h and short spears
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Pole stagger is only removed on EU1/2 I believe, go play game mod like rageball, EU4 battle/ DTV if you want the pole stagger back, the dev will never buff the damage because it can also affecct NA and other servers
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Ashwood is still very powerful, wa HAVIN tsome fun with 1wpf the other day getting 1-2 shot kills.
The change you all are upset about is that the shorter 2directional polearms went from being one of the top dueling weapons to long to mid range support weapon.
Isn't that their purpose?
Considering most 2h stabs outrange a Halberd/Awlpike/Ashwood pike stab, it's not really "long to mid range".
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Considering most 2h stabs outrange a Halberd/Awlpike/Ashwood pike stab, it's not really "long to mid range".
i dont think a longsword could outrange an ashwood pike
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i dont think a longsword could outrange an ashwood pike
They're about the same reach, fairly sure longsword is a tiny bit longer though.
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i dont think a longsword could outrange an ashwood pike
As zlisch said, they are about the same reach. And the longsword (and bastard swords) are the shortest 2h stab weapons and they rival the ashwood/awlpike in stab reach, meaning all the greatswords are longer. So no, the ashwood/awlpike can't be considered long to mid range. Medium range, arguably, but none can call them long reach.