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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Teeth on June 27, 2012, 05:42:32 pm

Title: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: Teeth on June 27, 2012, 05:42:32 pm
The Falchion is a very unique weapon. It is a sword, but it is also very heavy and thicker at the top. Historically it was like an axe, but with a swords blade. That is why I think it should get the bonus against shields. This would not only be historically correct, but would also make it a unique weapon in the 1h class. Currently all the shieldbreakers are axes.

The Falchion is completely useless right now. These are its current stats.

weapon length: 80
weight: 1.2
difficulty: 4
speed rating: 96
weapon length: 80
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 30 cut
Price: 654

96 speed rating, 30 cut and 80 length, yay! No wonder no one uses it.

My proposed stats, it should be a top/subtop tier weapon.

weapon length: 80
weight: 2.5
difficulty: 14
speed rating: 97
weapon length: 80
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 34 cut
Price: 6k-7k
Bonus against shields

Ofcourse my main goal with this thread is getting the Falchion changed to what it should be, historically correct and unique. These stats are just a quick thought and I'll leave it to devs to balance it properly. So please don't make the stats the main discussion point.
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: LordRichrich on June 27, 2012, 05:50:29 pm
Piggybacking off my idea :P
+1
I'd love to see falchions more too :)
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: bruce on June 27, 2012, 05:51:02 pm
+1
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: Kansuke on June 27, 2012, 05:56:34 pm
But then , Niuweidao, Soldier's Cleaver and Military Cleaver are sort of Falchion so should they get buffed too ?
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: Leshma on June 27, 2012, 06:01:08 pm
Falchion has crappy model. If you want to use Falchion, use Italian Falchion. Short weapon but hits like a truck.
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: bruce on June 27, 2012, 06:11:32 pm
Niuwendao is not nearly the same as the Falchion; Cleavers, hard to say.
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: Phew on June 27, 2012, 07:24:56 pm
My proposed stats, it should be a top/subtop tier weapon.

weapon length: 80
weight: 2.5
difficulty: 14
speed rating: 97
weapon length: 80
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 34 cut
Price: 6k-7k
Bonus against shields

I'd rather see a 1h morningstar (pierce but with bonus vs shield) than give a sword shieldbreaking. Falchions should be short, fast, and hit hard. Italian Falchion accomplishes these. Plain old falchion is a Failchion-i.e. peasant weapon, let it be.
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: zagibu on June 27, 2012, 10:46:04 pm
A blade is not a good wedge, like an axe head, therefore no bonus to shield.
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: Wraist on June 27, 2012, 11:33:37 pm
What of the Italian Falchion, it has 34 cut base and a length of 70 [tbh, it's extremely good loomed]
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: Sultan Eren on June 27, 2012, 11:47:10 pm
I use falcion as my secondary weapon, I think it's fine, we need a cheap mid-quality one slot weapon.
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: Teeth on June 28, 2012, 12:15:34 am
A blade is not a good wedge, like an axe head, therefore no bonus to shield.
An axe is not a wedge, it is just a cutting edge with a lot of weight behind it, like the falchion. You have splitting axes that are wedge shaped, but all the axes in the game are pretty much cutting axes.
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: Corsair831 on June 28, 2012, 12:18:19 am
The Falchion is a very unique weapon. It is a sword, but it is also very heavy and thicker at the top. Historically it was like an axe, but with a swords blade. That is why I think it should get the bonus against shields. This would not only be historically correct, but would also make it a unique weapon in the 1h class. Currently all the shieldbreakers are axes.

The Falchion is completely useless right now. These are its current stats.

weapon length: 80
weight: 1.2
difficulty: 4
speed rating: 96
weapon length: 80
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 30 cut
Price: 654

96 speed rating, 30 cut and 80 length, yay! No wonder no one uses it.

My proposed stats, it should be a top/subtop tier weapon.

weapon length: 80
weight: 2.5
difficulty: 14
speed rating: 97
weapon length: 80
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 34 cut
Price: 6k-7k
Bonus against shields

Ofcourse my main goal with this thread is getting the Falchion changed to what it should be, historically correct and unique. These stats are just a quick thought and I'll leave it to devs to balance it properly. So please don't make the stats the main discussion point.

-1, i played half a gen using nothing but the falchion and peasant gear and i always had 1:1 / positive KDR.

it's 30 damage at 80 range, and it's heavy, therefore it doesn't bounce.

not to mention it has like a 0 gold cost.

it's actually an amazing weapon.
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: Teeth on June 28, 2012, 10:34:23 am
-1, i played half a gen using nothing but the falchion and peasant gear and i always had 1:1 / positive KDR.

it's 30 damage at 80 range, and it's heavy, therefore it doesn't bounce.

not to mention it has like a 0 gold cost.

it's actually an amazing weapon.
1.2 weight is not heavy at all, and weight has nothing to do with bouncing.

Compare it with the Nomad Sabre for example, also a very cheap weapon. It has 6 speed(!) and 7 length more for only 1 cut less. If you used the Falchion because of its stats, then it says more about you than about the weapon.
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: Ujin on June 28, 2012, 03:58:47 pm
Falchions are supposed to do damage to shields, so  i +1 this suggestion. Might bring more diversity to 1h weapon choices.


Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: Nazurdin on June 28, 2012, 04:20:02 pm
+1
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: Spa_geh_tea on June 28, 2012, 05:58:53 pm
Then include the cleavers.....all of them.
Title: Re: Buff/fix Falchion
Post by: Jarlek on June 29, 2012, 02:48:10 am
+1.

More diversity :D

Also make some of the 1h axes and maces unbalanced (together with a damage buff).