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Title: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: engurrand on June 22, 2012, 05:46:53 pm
So is the general consensus that NA players are a bunch of elitist KD ratio whores who only care about their personal glory while they maintain an illusive "troll" type personal unavailability and secretly confide to be the best.. lets call them the 30%

While the EU people are more team based, or something, and although they too as well have their glory hounds the sheer fact that there are more EU players creates a different dynamic in terms of the type of setting that develops, or culture that develops...

Even though there are traits that all posses no matter when it comes to online pvp type games, there is some type of difference that is perceived between NA and EU... And i do think this comes from both sides. Something else that i think is connected is that i have seen that very few NA people are willing to negotiate in strat with EU, and it is highly unforgivable to do so. I do believe that hospitaller was kind of "outcast" from a subset of NA culture because of their EU associations, and that there is a very bland and unformed power dynamic between NA and EU, whereby the only real option is fight.

That being said the main point of all of this is to say that....

What NA say doesn't really matter, cuz EU has all the players, right? Anyone have the numbers break down?
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Teeth on June 22, 2012, 05:51:11 pm
What have you done!
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: _GTX_ on June 22, 2012, 05:52:54 pm
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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: SixThumbs on June 22, 2012, 05:53:40 pm
Typical EU drama thread.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Thovex on June 22, 2012, 05:55:35 pm
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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: engurrand on June 22, 2012, 06:22:30 pm
You don't know true drama...

These folk are tame, they don't know the fury of private EQ1 pvp server flame threads.

Besides... Without drama we are just clicking buttons like a mouse with electrode in pleasure center that stimulates pon the press.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on June 22, 2012, 06:23:09 pm
Imo EU has more elitist kd whores
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: engurrand on June 22, 2012, 06:38:26 pm
Imo EU has more elitist kd whores

But are they classier?

I would settle to agree on that, knowing how people are not too different across the board no matter where they come from, when it comes down to it.

However, there is still sometimes a difference in how an underlying aspect is expressed... Perhaps it is in the use of words or simply a product of how each brings a thing to attention.

Still, there are more EU players are their not, and thus their voice has more sway in terms of what happens in C-RPG, yes?

NA people are like chiddies who ride on the backs of the EU?
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: TurmoilTom on June 22, 2012, 06:53:55 pm
I'm gay.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: chadz on June 22, 2012, 06:58:49 pm
Well, it looks likely that this will settle the matter once and for all.

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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Kafein on June 22, 2012, 06:59:05 pm
I wish I could post an image about thread derailing that just says "this thread" instead of comparing in an after/before fashion.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Goretooth on June 22, 2012, 07:05:01 pm
someone make me a sandwich?
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: sF_Guardian on June 22, 2012, 07:06:03 pm
So what exactly is the point in posting that bullcrap?
Wanna have attention?

U have my attention now, can u please close that bullshit?
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: MrShine on June 22, 2012, 07:08:06 pm
So is the general consensus that NA players are a bunch of elitist KD ratio whores who only care about their personal glory while they maintain an illusive "troll" type personal unavailability and secretly confide to be the best.. lets call them the 30%

While the EU people are more team based, or something, and although they too as well have their glory hounds the sheer fact that there are more EU players creates a different dynamic in terms of the type of setting that develops, or culture that develops...

Even though there are traits that all posses no matter when it comes to online pvp type games, there is some type of difference that is perceived between NA and EU... And i do think this comes from both sides. Something else that i think is connected is that i have seen that very few NA people are willing to negotiate in strat with EU, and it is highly unforgivable to do so. I do believe that hospitaller was kind of "outcast" from a subset of NA culture because of their EU associations, and that there is a very bland and unformed power dynamic between NA and EU, whereby the only real option is fight.

That being said the main point of all of this is to say that....

What NA say doesn't really matter, cuz EU has all the players, right? Anyone have the numbers break down?

TL;DR too busy eating cheezeburgers

My KDR is better than yours so I don't have to listen to what you say.

EU scum

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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Vodner on June 22, 2012, 07:11:12 pm
I've seen a lot of both EU and NA battle. Despite all the dickwaving from both sides on the forums, the variety playstyles are pretty much the same for both. The only major difference I noticed is that the EU servers tend to have a lot more archers.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Teeth on June 22, 2012, 07:36:36 pm
The only major difference I noticed is that the EU servers tend to have a lot more archers.
I knew it! Emigration incoming!
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Sarpton on June 22, 2012, 07:37:27 pm
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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Turboflex on June 22, 2012, 07:42:55 pm
I've seen a lot of both EU and NA battle. Despite all the dickwaving from both sides on the forums, the variety playstyles are pretty much the same for both. The only major difference I noticed is that the EU servers tend to have a lot more archers.

NA has more throwers from what I've seen.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: TurmoilTom on June 22, 2012, 07:47:15 pm
し(*・∀・)/♡\(・∀・*)
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: _GTX_ on June 22, 2012, 07:48:37 pm
Well, it looks likely that this will settle the matter once and for all.

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Plz do it, make it happen.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on June 22, 2012, 08:02:26 pm
This is just anecdotal to my Video Gaming Experience:

NA:
-fewer clan lineups dominating on battle/siege servers
-always 1-5 asian players who never talk and more or less leech (they have 400 ping, how are they gonna actually hit someone anyway)
-more clanless chart-topping superstars/KD whores

EU:
-almost always see a clan on any given server (even if it's just a battalion of 4 guys with matching banner)
-political discussion, or people yelling obscenities in russian/turkish. 50% chance of one or the other
-I can't hit things with crossbows or bows. 150 ping means its melee time, bitch!
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Strider on June 22, 2012, 08:07:04 pm
Heres the difference between NA people and EU people. EU people are racist and discriminating vs other countries (especially America). We as Americans tend to not get involved in huge international debates like this.

Please be tolerant of other heritages because the truth is we probly dislike yours but are not rude enough to say it.

Yes Americans are idiots. But we're your idiots.

BTW this comment probly sparked a huge debate. TROLLED
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on June 22, 2012, 08:07:49 pm
Well, it looks likely that this will settle the matter once and for all.

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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: cmp on June 22, 2012, 08:09:34 pm
NA people are accepting of everyone while EU people are all racist

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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Brrrak on June 22, 2012, 08:20:21 pm
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Hahahahahaha, funny.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Richter on June 22, 2012, 08:23:15 pm
I've lived in both NA and EU.
I must say; The Europeans tend to be more educated about other societies, but usually act like snobs, not realizing their own society's pettiness.
The Americans tend to be less educated/care less about foreign nations, simply because they believe themselves to be the prime of the world.

In other words, the Euros look down on everyone else, despite themselves.
And the Americans ignore everyone else, because of themselves.

But of course, there's the good fellows among both sides who are reasonable.

A prime example of that EU attitude would be the very common nationalism of the Balkan states, Herzegovina, Bosnia, Serbia, Monteblack in spanish, Croatia, Albania...
A prime example of the American ignorance is their frequent inability to name said Balkan states.

In other words, this is all silly. I'm trying to dispel a bit of the silliness. How about you have your attitude towards people, regardless of their place of origin.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: FrugFrug on June 22, 2012, 08:30:43 pm
NA is the best because it has me.

Which means EU isn't better than NA, nor is NA better than EU.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: MrShine on June 22, 2012, 08:33:50 pm
Can we all agree there are 2 and only 2 types of players in cRPG:  Euromy old friends and Americunts.

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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: cmp on June 22, 2012, 08:35:04 pm
Can we all agree there are 2 and only 2 types of players in cRPG:  Euromy old friends and Americunts.

NO.
There are Australians and everybody else.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Strider on June 22, 2012, 08:35:23 pm
I'll admit EU people are much smarter than Americans.
It is not the mind but the heart that counts
Beautiful poetry by yours truly  :P

But the bottom line is: Everyone sucks in this big round piece of crap we call world.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: TurmoilTom on June 22, 2012, 08:36:24 pm
Europeans, Americans and Australians are all inferior to the badass asians of the Crafty clan. ( ^_^)o自自o(^_^ )
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Emotion on June 22, 2012, 08:41:36 pm
MY KEYBOARD IS SO GREASY FROM THE FAT DRIPPING OFF MY CHEESEBURGER, YOU THINK YOU COULD HOLD IT SO I CAN JERK OFF? CAN'T LET GOOD GREASE GO TO WASTE... YEA?
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: engurrand on June 22, 2012, 09:00:33 pm
I'm saying this is why LOL STAB was removed..

Cuz there are more EU players and when they say 'fuck LOL stab' they say it in enough differnet accents that it's sexy and gets attentiont AND SHIT GETS DONE CUZ THEY ALL SEXY WITH VOICES
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Canary on June 22, 2012, 09:34:18 pm
Even though there are traits that all posses no matter when it comes to online pvp type games, there is some type of difference that is perceived between NA and EU... And i do think this comes from both sides. Something else that i think is connected is that i have seen that very few NA people are willing to negotiate in strat with EU, and it is highly unforgivable to do so. I do believe that hospitaller was kind of "outcast" from a subset of NA culture because of their EU associations, and that there is a very bland and unformed power dynamic between NA and EU, whereby the only real option is fight.

That being said the main point of all of this is to say that....

What NA say doesn't really matter, cuz EU has all the players, right? Anyone have the numbers break down?

If I recall, there was once a poll pertaining to strat asking players to select which server they played on. The result of the poll was very nearly one-third voting NA and the rest voting EU. Not sure where that thread went...

Anyhow, I think you're misinterpreting the NA-side's dealings with EU. The problems are underpinned by the map divide, where one third of the map's territories were allotted to the NA strat server and two thirds to the EU strat server. It's not that we're unwilling to negotiate with EU, it's that there are certain power blocs that formed which most of players on the NA side of the map specifically do not like diplomatically, or do not want to have to deal with. By "power blocs" I actually refer to just one bloc who incidentally controls (I think) 100% of the EU side of the map. Several of the smaller EU factions have been forced off of their own side, and so are now on the NA side of the map. NA is very willing to negotiate with them, obviously, because they've taken up quite a bit of NA territory by this point, and NA wanted them there. These EU players share the NA players' feelings towards the aforementioned EU-side bloc, and now everybody is holding hands over here in NA because of shared feelings (and maybe other things, I guess).

NA did stay on its side of the map with relative uniformity, though. I can't think of any instance where NA factions crossed the border with hostile intent, for example. We did, in the past, have dealings and trade routes established with some folks on the EU-side, but either all of those EU people have since lost their territory, or were the ones in control now with whom all of NA is kind-of-sort-of at war with. Before the split map was implemented, in strat 2.0, for example, things were very different, since factions were not forced to one side by rule of design. There was a bit more mixing of sides then.

As for the Hospitallers, I'm not sure what you mean by "outcast" because I'm not sure to which time period you're referring. If you mean when they had their trade agreements with the EU clans who came across the border aggressively to attack NA clans, then, yeah, I guess that caused some grief among the NA community, but it wasn't purely because they were aiding EU, but because they were aiding the particular factions who were removing all of the rest of the NA clans from the NA territories.

The only thing I'll say here about Europeans vs North Americans in a more general sense is that when NA players go to EU servers, they get called out for being there. We even get called cheeseburgers, fat, fat americans, amerifats, and other things like that. I can't think of a single time I saw someone from NA call out an EU player or announce their presence solely because they were from EU, with the exception of strat battles. Usually our trashtalking of EU guys occurs when they're not around.  8-)
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Bryggan on June 22, 2012, 09:47:13 pm
I think the important thing to remember here is that both the Americans and the Euros are all assholes, but NA server has a slight edge because of there are 1 or 2 Canadians in it who, by their very nature, are bold, honourable, chivalrous and completely fearless in battle.

As neither American nor European I think my view is just and unbiased.  Oh, and Australians don't count for anything.  I am so sick of their being over-represented in the Summer Olympics podium standing.  Don't they know they have a small population, and sports achievements should reflect that?  Plus stop coming to Canada and stealing our womenfolk.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Yachdiel on June 22, 2012, 09:55:45 pm
Its easy to tell what your dealing with when you look at the names on each side, NA names usually involve semen or some obscene anachronism of the sort. While EU players usually have names that aid in immersion. Both lead me to suspect each side has elitists who'd like to make a name for themselves, just one side is silly, and the other is arrogant.

Also, Gawd bless 'Merca USA! USA! USA!
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: DrTaco on June 22, 2012, 10:56:52 pm
To be honest with us all, a single poll can't tell us the population divide. Hell I only think the real way is probably going to be sales figures from Taleworlds or Paradox. Now with the EU v NA, each sides thinks they are both elitist asshole K/D whores, most of which can only breath through the mouth. Well, to the point, both sides are right. The EU side is a bunch of elitist assholes that can only breath through their mouths (Atleast, a fairly good number). The NA side is less so, being proven that NA do it half as much, but twice as elitist and mouth breathing.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Slamz on June 22, 2012, 11:18:50 pm
I was going to do a comparison of EU ban requests vs NA ban requests but unfortunately they move closed requests into a "Closed Requests" forum (or at least sometimes they do), so I guess it's hard to tell.

Actually, the NA ban forum having far more posts in it suggests that NA admins are lazy and rarely move closed requests into the proper forum.  This theory meshes well with their laziness at banning douchebags in game, so maybe there IS a good measurement here.  NA has more lazy admins, ergo we have more douchebag players who should be banned, but never are.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Makatozi MB on June 22, 2012, 11:44:01 pm
MY KEYBOARD IS SO GREASY FROM THE FAT DRIPPING OFF MY CHEESEBURGER, YOU THINK YOU COULD HOLD IT SO I CAN JERK OFF? CAN'T LET GOOD GREASE GO TO WASTE... YEA?

Bacon grease is best. just sayin.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Dan lol on June 23, 2012, 12:08:51 am
the difference between na and eu is solely that on na everyone curses each other in english, where on eu you have a colorful rainbow of obscenity.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on June 23, 2012, 12:15:48 am
Locia is not in either of these places...
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: rustyspoon on June 23, 2012, 12:23:44 am
In NA the bottom of my screen is filled up with people calling each other "gay."

In EU the bottom of my screen is filled up with polls.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: TugBoat on June 23, 2012, 12:26:11 am
I see KUTT, NH, HoC, Remnant, and other clans in NA all using team based strategies often in battle
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Strider on June 23, 2012, 12:28:07 am
EU servers definetely have much more team play. I wish NA servers were more like that. NA players like to play individually and get to the top of the score list.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 23, 2012, 12:49:02 am
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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Rusty_Shacklefjord on June 23, 2012, 01:01:04 am
From what I've seen, there tends to be a lot more individuality on NA. There's a LOT of variety, and a lot of people trying out new play styles, new builds, new tricks and tactics, etc. That's why we have more 'flavor of the month' type builds, like horse crossbowmen and pure throwers. People are always trying to find an edge and experimenting with new stuff. Likewise, NA players tend to ignore team play a lot of the time. They're more interested in dramatic exploits and exciting fights, so there are a lot of heroes. Also, it doesn't help that there are only a few big, worthwhile clans on NA.

By contrast, EU players tend to follow tradition. They use tried-and-true weapons, builds, and tactics. Danish greatsword, heavy kuyak, strength builds, heavy horses,shield walls, cavalry charges, etc. These guys take a straightforward cookie-cutter approach, stick with their team, and fight the good fight rather than running all over the map on their own. The EU servers are also a little more populated than NA, so it feels more like a big battle than a skirmish.

There's no real good or bad to it, they're just different.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Canary on June 23, 2012, 01:01:44 am
I was going to do a comparison of EU ban requests vs NA ban requests but unfortunately they move closed requests into a "Closed Requests" forum (or at least sometimes they do), so I guess it's hard to tell.

Actually, the NA ban forum having far more posts in it suggests that NA admins are lazy and rarely move closed requests into the proper forum.  This theory meshes well with their laziness at banning douchebags in game, so maybe there IS a good measurement here.  NA has more lazy admins, ergo we have more douchebag players who should be banned, but never are.

Oh right, we have moderator over there. I, for one, forget that fact quite often. I think that some NA admins probably don't even realize they have it at all. There's no admin guidebook, not any instruction about how to administrate that we get at all. We get the tools to make bans happen and the server rules and that's pretty much it. I don't think they even make sure new admins know the rules, either.

I wouldn't call us lazy at banning douchebags in-game, either, but rather that we're careful about it. Sometimes it's hard to tell if a player has really broken a rule, taking somebody's word for it is not really a good way to go about business. The turnover rate is also much higher for NA admins, so I think some guys are still getting used to just how much strictness is enough.

I shouldn't speak for other admins so much, I just know that I've spent more hours in spectator some days than I've spent playing, just watching out for one supposed troublemaker or making sure people actually play the game. I'd hardly call that lazy.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: dynamike on June 23, 2012, 01:49:16 am
I'll admit EU people are much smarter than Americans.
It is not the mind but the heart that counts
Beautiful poetry by yours truly  :P

But the bottom line is: Everyone sucks in this big round piece of crap we call world.

Gondorians are the worst and should be eaten by orcs.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: bruce on June 23, 2012, 02:38:39 am
From what I've seen, there tends to be a lot more individuality on NA. There's a LOT of variety, and a lot of people trying out new play styles, new builds, new tricks and tactics, etc. That's why we have more 'flavor of the month' type builds, like horse crossbowmen and pure throwers.

I was a horse crossbowman for generations and generations after the first wipe, and one of the first people to obtain a horse (BlueGreen was first on his rouncey) after the wipe back, what, two years ago? Except it really was a lol build then, because HA was every 12 agi and you had to deal with old lancers, not the modern people which have their joints welded together.

Crossbows were less accurate on top, although more damaging, so if you did hit a lancer with your epic 2 HA-skill crosshair the size of two plated chargers you would get a kill. It was awesome when you'd win a lance vs crossbow duel vs a competent lancer. And you raged about foot archers since they would twoshot (or if headshot, oneshot) your horse halfway across the map. And there was a lot of archers back in the day.

Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Vicious666 on June 23, 2012, 02:58:14 am
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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Bobthehero on June 23, 2012, 03:06:46 am
McDO's fucking good, ate some when I was in France some years ago, less salty, tasted a bit less, but eh, feels good.

EU and NA are both filled with morons, imo.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Gmnotutoo on June 23, 2012, 03:21:56 am
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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Oberyn on June 23, 2012, 03:46:47 am
From what I've seen, there tends to be a lot more individuality on NA. There's a LOT of variety, and a lot of people trying out new play styles, new builds, new tricks and tactics, etc. That's why we have more 'flavor of the month' type builds, like horse crossbowmen and pure throwers. People are always trying to find an edge and experimenting with new stuff. Likewise, NA players tend to ignore team play a lot of the time. They're more interested in dramatic exploits and exciting fights, so there are a lot of heroes. Also, it doesn't help that there are only a few big, worthwhile clans on NA.

By contrast, EU players tend to follow tradition. They use tried-and-true weapons, builds, and tactics. Danish greatsword, heavy kuyak, strength builds, heavy horses,shield walls, cavalry charges, etc. These guys take a straightforward cookie-cutter approach, stick with their team, and fight the good fight rather than running all over the map on their own. The EU servers are also a little more populated than NA, so it feels more like a big battle than a skirmish.

There's no real good or bad to it, they're just different.

 
NA= individualistic, experimental, dramatic
EU= collectivist, traditionalist, cookie-cutter
It's almost word for word the way Americans stereotype themselves vs Europe. Yeah, pop culture bullshit definetely didn't influence this opinion at all. Only cookie-cutter I see is your mind.
Heavy horses and str builds are uniquely EU? wtf? Do you even play on EU servers? If anything both of those are way more used in NA than in EU. Usually the retarded stereotype used to justify why NA use more str builds is because EU are obviously all cowardly full agi backpedallers, as opposed to the strong and mighty NA players. Fuckers can't even keep their ridiculous stereotypes straight. Do you have any proof at all for your claims, beyond of course your own biased opinion?
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Tagora on June 23, 2012, 07:03:49 am
y'all just mad cuz we be stealin' all da trade in the south pacific :>

I mean seriously, whatchu guys got, chip manufacturers in Germany?

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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Vkvkvk on June 23, 2012, 07:46:20 am
Go take a shower EU trash, I hope you jump in a lake, swallow a snake and get out with a tummy ache.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Rusty_Shacklefjord on June 23, 2012, 10:01:07 am

NA= individualistic, experimental, dramatic
EU= collectivist, traditionalist, cookie-cutter
It's almost word for word the way Americans stereotype themselves vs Europe. Yeah, pop culture bullshit definetely didn't influence this opinion at all. Only cookie-cutter I see is your mind.
Heavy horses and str builds are uniquely EU? wtf? Do you even play on EU servers? If anything both of those are way more used in NA than in EU. Usually the retarded stereotype used to justify why NA use more str builds is because EU are obviously all cowardly full agi backpedallers, as opposed to the strong and mighty NA players. Fuckers can't even keep their ridiculous stereotypes straight. Do you have any proof at all for your claims, beyond of course your own biased opinion?

yea bro eu is ghey as fuk lmao i bet ur just mad cuz a AMERICA TOP GUN kicked ur ass noob

lmfao ur told son
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Kuyamzoleta on June 23, 2012, 10:15:17 am
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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Darkkarma on June 23, 2012, 10:46:54 am
Not even chadz and CMP posts could save this thread im afraid. Alot of bad going on in here.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Taser on June 23, 2012, 11:03:03 am
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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Miwiw on June 23, 2012, 11:43:24 am
+1'd starting post because it had so many -1. Nvm the thread.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Joker86 on June 23, 2012, 12:43:50 pm
Americans:

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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Christo on June 23, 2012, 12:44:10 pm
lol.

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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on June 23, 2012, 07:52:32 pm
A prime example of that EU attitude would be the very common nationalism of the Balkan states, Herzegovina, Bosnia, Serbia, Monteblack in spanish, Croatia, Albania...
A prime example of the American ignorance is their frequent inability to name said Balkan states.

In other words, this is all silly. I'm trying to dispel a bit of the silliness. How about you have your attitude towards people, regardless of their place of origin.

Good sir, this offends me.

Croatia may be on the border of the balkan peninsula but the mentality is somewhat different in the rural areas and radicaly different in the urban ones in comparison to the other countries you mentioned. The influences are more romanesque/germanic to the slavic population here, we are closer to the western mentality than any other country you mentioned in your post, hence the religion is 90+% roman chatolic and we write in the latin alphabet.

 In fact i would go as far as to say that we would be as well developed as any of the western european coutries if it wasnt for the constant defensive warfare that pounded our infrastructure to the ground and hindered our development severely. One information that describes the severity of this fact: It is estimated that the number of Croatians living outside of the boundries of the coutry exceeds the number of them living inside of the Croatian borders. A small reminder to the troublesome political and war filled history

After all we have all the traits required for such development (Good resources, lush farmlands and forests, we are on the trade route crossroads between west and south Europe, the busy trade ports and not to mention the island filled touristic meca that is the Adriatic coast - that is probably the explanation why we had to defend the teritory so fiercely throughout our history)I would dare say that it is a miracle we werent wiped or asimilated as a nation. Because of this we are a stubborn, proud, nationalistic people  and we are sceptical towards our neighbours, this is one of the reasones we survived.

But i am also aware of how the rest of the civilized world views us: practicaly third world balkan warmongering unwashed barbarians. This saddens me greatly and i can only hope that the Croatian immingrant comunities (that are valued as hard working and upstanding citizens in both Germany, America, Australia and the rest of the countries that have large Croatian immigrant population) can make a differance in changing this view about us.

Because those imbeciles, those torch lighting hooligans sure aint helping. There are stupid people in every nation but the morons in Croatia seem to be good at doing it at live television when millions are watching -.-

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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Joker86 on June 23, 2012, 08:25:52 pm
So basically you are saying that Croatians have not that nationalism like the other Balkan nations, because you are better and totally different than the rest?

I don't know any Balkan country where the flag (Sahovnica) is displayed that often like in Croatia. And I am from the Balkan (Monteblack in spanish).
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on June 23, 2012, 08:32:50 pm
So basically you are saying that Croatians have not that nationalism like the other Balkan nations, because you are better and totally different than the rest?

I don't know any Balkan country where the flag (Sahovnica) is displayed that often like in Croatia. And I am from the Balkan (Monteblack in spanish).

Ah i feared that the message i wanted to give with my post was too subtle to detect and i was right. A simple smiley wasnt enough i guess  :D

Ill quote the important part. The spoiler in my post

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That whole post was refering how uneducated people (or in educated but brought up in a wrong way) in each European nation tend to
always believe they are better than the rest :D Competing with better history, development, looks, smarts, and hating on eachother
Ofcourse no trait can be generalized nation wide and i was in no way looking down or mocking other nations. My real opinion is that any trait (stupidity, nationalizm, bias, biggotry) should be viewed individualy. I had the luxury or an good uprising and an academic education, many people didnt and thats probably why they are nationalistic. I guess the more educated/well raised you are the less you view people in terms of nations (EU,NA, whatever), color, or any other stupid prejudice and the more you look at people just as people and individuals
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Juhanius on June 23, 2012, 08:38:44 pm
Skill level is much higher in EU servers than NA servers. Na is peewee league of cRPG :P
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on June 23, 2012, 08:43:23 pm
Skill level is much higher in EU servers than NA servers. Na is peewee league of cRPG :P

Hm, i visited NA ocasionaly. Imo: EU general unwashed masses skill is a bit better, everyone can block a few these days. I found the NA unwashed masses to be a tad easier to dispose of. As for individual skill both have extremely good players and are imo evenly matched in that aspect
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Joker86 on June 23, 2012, 08:53:09 pm
Izvini, nisam primjetio spoilera  :oops:
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: bruce on June 23, 2012, 08:56:24 pm
Gdje ste Balkan uvukli u EU vs NA   :D
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Juhanius on June 23, 2012, 09:07:30 pm
It would be cool if NA players could play as squire for EU server, carrying extra weapons and ammunition.

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Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: engurrand on June 23, 2012, 09:11:18 pm
I notice how the trend seems to move towards the east, the trend of this post...

NA v EU, then the eastern part of EU was slowly start to emerge, now is the focus.

The Asians of course were simply given a "thumbs up"...

I do think the next divide is with the east and west of EU.

and then arab peopleish..

Seems to follow that ping is key in the land of the skilled based games.

Which does create and interesting dynamic in terms of the ability for gamers to compete across distance...

maybe IRL mmorpg is better...

Permadeath is sweet.
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: Baggy on June 23, 2012, 09:13:23 pm
The only worthwile posts in this thread are the ones that actually post attempt to show the differences between the two populations(however minor they are)
Title: Re: The general consensus about EU v NA
Post by: engurrand on June 23, 2012, 09:17:10 pm
http://barenakedislam.com/2011/05/30/uk-geneticist-warns-of-dangers-of-muslim-inbreeding-marrying-their-own-family-members/