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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Cicero on June 20, 2012, 11:18:25 pm

Title: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Cicero on June 20, 2012, 11:18:25 pm
When you gonna change this retarted fuckin new game mechanics ?

It's totally fail cant you see / understand ?

Playing in strat battle on EU server is like playing with NA ping . Ghosting , ultra glance , ridicilous hits

In bashibazouk we have nearly 60 people and noone of them like new one and we are searching different games or playing in servers which dont have latest patch like rageball.

Also i couldnt hear from any of my friends from cRPG that they liked new patch.

Hope you will take your attention because we wanna play cRPG
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Christo on June 20, 2012, 11:20:56 pm
Give it some time.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: robert_namo on June 20, 2012, 11:22:05 pm
You know, NA is still played without the new miracle fixes.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Vibe on June 20, 2012, 11:23:17 pm
OKBYE
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Lech on June 20, 2012, 11:26:59 pm
Try pecores server or nordmen, those aren't updated yet.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Grumbs on June 20, 2012, 11:27:55 pm
I just want the client-server to sync properly. Then we can tell if stuff is balanced after the polestagger was removed
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Tindel on June 20, 2012, 11:32:30 pm
Its shit,  lots of glances and descync and teleports and glances and did i mention weird misses and glances?

And turn speed is fucking weird as well, i move like im in water or something.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Chasey on June 20, 2012, 11:39:11 pm
I just want the client-server to sync properly. Then we can tell if stuff is balanced after the polestagger was removed
this. having a break playing diablo 3 until this fixes the hit detection
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Tomeusz on June 21, 2012, 12:19:10 am
I dont know much about new game mechanics of patchy, but after applying i saw some new interface and combat animations, so yes, i like it:)
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Leshma on June 21, 2012, 12:22:07 am
There are certain imperfections but overally, I'm very satisifed with the new patch.

Diablo loves can hit the road for all I care :wink:
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Kafein on June 21, 2012, 12:42:01 am
My overall fun and performance dropped significantly since the patch, so I don't play cRPG a lot.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: cmp on June 21, 2012, 12:42:08 am
Stab and overhead desync should have been fixed in yesterday's patch, but I made a mistake and instead broke swings as well (how did nobody notice that?).
It'll be fixed in the next patch, in the meantime you can fix it by replacing this file (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/30551702/WSEcRPGPlugin.dll) in Modules\cRPG\WSE.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Ad1no on June 21, 2012, 01:07:39 am
cmp your amazing

but the game changes are gonna hurt pop..

I really think you should look thru player logs and gather the most dedicated (ones with most hours) players for counsel before you make such drastic changes

All vet players I know are frustrated at the least and quiting at the worst...
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: cmp on June 21, 2012, 01:09:05 am
That's too bad, but I don't work on the mod for free to please the "most dedicated" players.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Leshma on June 21, 2012, 01:09:58 am
You know who's the most dedicated player. He's pleased :D
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Miwiw on June 21, 2012, 01:10:25 am
I really think you should look thru player logs and gather the most dedicated (ones with most hours) players for counsel before you make such drastic changes

Dont do this...  :P
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Kafein on June 21, 2012, 01:13:03 am
Btw, Leshma, overall is already an adverb if you use it as one

There are certain imperfections but overally, I'm very satisifed with the new patch.

Diablo loves can hit the road for all I care :wink:
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Ad1no on June 21, 2012, 01:16:12 am
That's too bad, but I don't work on the mod for free to please the "most dedicated" players.

I'm confused. Why do you work on it free for then? To kill it?
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: cmp on June 21, 2012, 01:21:26 am
I'm confused. Why do you work on it free for then? To kill it?

To make something that I (and other devs) like to play. As long as us and most players like it, the ones who don't are acceptable collateral.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: robert_namo on June 21, 2012, 01:22:10 am
I'm confused. Why do you work on it free for then? To kill it?
I don't know about you, but nothing even comes close to crpg regarding gameplay.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Ad1no on June 21, 2012, 01:24:12 am
To make something that I (and other devs) like to play. As long as us and most players like it, the ones who don't are acceptable collateral.

Now that I can accept. You do the work and you deserve the reward..

I play CRPG alot and don't wanna see it die. Sorry if I came off rude..
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Leshma on June 21, 2012, 01:25:24 am
daed si dom
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Ad1no on June 21, 2012, 01:25:33 am
I don't know about you, but nothing even comes close to crpg regarding gameplay.

I agree
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: cmp on June 21, 2012, 01:25:36 am
I play CRPG alot and don't wanna see it die. Sorry if I came off rude..

Not at all.
And I'm the last person who wants to see cRPG die. :wink:
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: POOPHAMMER on June 21, 2012, 01:27:54 am
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Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Kafein on June 21, 2012, 01:28:26 am
To make something that I (and other devs) like to play. As long as us and most players like it, the ones who don't are acceptable collateral.

Keep it that way (and I'm sure you will :D ).

I don't understand why I tend to fail everything ingame lately, so the reason is probably something about me.

Now this is awful because I'm apologizing for my previous post and your undirected reaction even though I should stay a badass disgruntled guy in front of you, just not to lose face. Too late now probably.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Leshma on June 21, 2012, 01:30:01 am
Want to have fun?

Make STF toon, 18/21, 27/12, or 36/3 and roll with us Staffolks :wink:
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Tzar on June 21, 2012, 01:33:37 am
And I'm the last person who wants to see cRPG die. :wink:

Well it probably wont die but we have lost alot of players lately due to the overall slow down in melee mechanics...

Maybe they will comeback one day i dunno but my Clan ts is empty in the cRPG channel 24/7 atm i take it we are like 3 or 4 people still playing cRPG on a regular basis atm. Just a month ago we where like 13 people who played regularly  :lol: 

Not saying i don't appreciate the work you put into cRPG.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Cicero on June 21, 2012, 02:16:11 am
To make something that I (and other devs) like to play. As long as us and most players like it, the ones who don't are acceptable collateral.
lovely cRPG developer's sentence  , i was used to read this from chadz . Let me explain those rude and non-elite people in their language

He is saying " This is our mod if you dont like gtfo "
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Baggy on June 21, 2012, 02:27:29 am
Well ya, It's always been that way.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Blackzilla on June 21, 2012, 02:48:10 am
Not at all.
And I'm the last person who wants to see cRPG die. :wink:
You'll have me playing this mod till it dies. I mean, its the only game my laptop supports/runs with 25 fps (sometimes 60)
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Vibe on June 21, 2012, 07:13:08 am
lovely cRPG developer's sentence  , i was used to read this from chadz . Let me explain those rude and non-elite people in their language

He is saying " This is our mod if you dont like gtfo "

Yes basically and there's nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: v/onMega on June 21, 2012, 07:58:25 am
Cmpx.
Is it fixed or do I still need the mentioned file?

These new mechanics are a challange.
A challange is always welcome.

Duels are not funneh anymore though, but whatever.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: HarunYahya on June 21, 2012, 08:09:10 am
I am very satisfied that pole-stagger has been removed but flying helmets , ghosting , "weirdly" missed headshots , buggy movement , weird glances MORE weird glances and some other shits have to be gone . Im sure devs will solve those problems soon anyway but the game and combat system is pretty fucked up and unplayable at the moment.
Till then , RAGEBALL rocks ! (Even NA rageball is fun.)
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Rebelyell on June 21, 2012, 08:13:40 am
nah no more lol stabs and lol overhead
looks like you can turn a lite bit with stab or overhead so for god players that change nothing

pike is soo long then even with smal radius of rotation you still can make lol stab but no that uber one

i like that
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: rufio on June 21, 2012, 08:31:26 am
yes it takes more skill now on stabs and such since you have to time your releases better, i can understand cicero not liking this since fighting more opponents has become way way harder without the lol spin spin spin stabs, imo mod is going in a good direction, and people complaining were just rusted into the old mechanics.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 21, 2012, 08:33:34 am
You know who's the most dedicated player. He's pleased :D

Is it me? It is me isn't it :D I knew it!

6 months of playing with 300 ping, I was sure I would get some kind of accolade.

I would like the plaque to read

"The most staunch and dedicate moron FRANK!"
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Everkistus on June 21, 2012, 08:51:04 am
This last patch nerfed lonely heroes who charge against multiple people and then spin like a helicopter in an enemy crowd facing the ground and chopping people up with their twohanders. In the meantime every is having a hard time hitting the guy in the middle because fear of teamhits and the hits that land often glance off from heirloomed heavy armor. Now that playstyle gets you killed since you can't spin like crazy anymore. Somehow, the people who have been doing this have been most vocal about the changes. Sound familiar, Cicero?

The change encourages teamplay and I like it. Keep up the good work, devs!
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Molly on June 21, 2012, 09:15:26 am
Cmpx.
Is it fixed or do I still need the mentioned file?
[...]
This.
Do we?
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: cmp on June 21, 2012, 12:45:06 pm
Fix is not released yet, download the file I linked earlier in this thread.

Nevermind, fix was released in the patch this morning.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: bonekuukkeli on June 21, 2012, 01:43:26 pm
Not at all. I hate to see that when "lolstab" was nerfed it also reduced many other ways of fighting. Like... I used to hit overhead attacks and turn them after releasing. Now battle doesnt feel so fluid and nice anymore. More clunky.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: IR_Kuoin on June 21, 2012, 01:45:34 pm
Mad turks
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Cicero on June 21, 2012, 01:46:12 pm
Whatever i should not open a topic to discuss the new patch , many haters are here lol. I can totally still kill dont worry =)

Yesterday i killed 83 in strat battle its not a problem even if they will totally remove 2h i can still gonna kill.This thread seems to be cicero haters party like vibe always , i can see vmega hello angry german ,  we still lack bjord have did he miss my topic ?

I don't use lolstab
With new patch if you see 3 guys running for you just start running its not possible to kill them.
My point was those ghost hits especially overhead also i totally hate lolstab and i never use to get kills with "left side attack and move 2 steps backward and stab" this retarted tactic.
Probably i am the most spinner and feinter guy in cRPG i could me 360 overhead , spin , left side feint 360 and right side attack and some more but i also like patches and i start thinking to find a new feint so i can kill which i got "animation fake" by this way after last patch.But i am talking about game mechanics which is giving you trouble , attacking your enemy with overhead but hitting air while on your eyes u are choppin his head is the problem called ghosting.This is the problem i mentioned.

Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Vibe on June 21, 2012, 01:50:35 pm
Whatever i should not open a topic to discuss the new patch , many haters are here lol. I can totally still kill dont worry =)

Yesterday i killed 83 in strat battle its not a problem even if they will totally remove 2h i can still gonna kill.This thread seems to be cicero haters party like vibe always , i can see vmega hello angry german ,  we still lack bjord have did he miss my topic ?

I'm not hating on you, I don't have any grudge against you. I would've replied the same way to anyone saying that.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Cicero on June 21, 2012, 01:53:59 pm
OKBYE
yea this post totally shows you are logical and not hatin
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Idzo on June 21, 2012, 01:56:14 pm

Yesterday i killed 83 in strat battle its not a problem even if they will totally remove 2h i can still gonna kill.


 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Vibe on June 21, 2012, 01:58:14 pm
yea this post totally shows you are logical and not hatin

Same applies to this post too, would've said it to anyone saying the exact same things and not because it has the name Cicero.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Cicero on June 21, 2012, 01:59:14 pm
Same applies to this post too, would've said it to anyone saying the exact same things and not because it has the name Cicero.
then you are fuckin retarted.
OKBYE
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Teeth on June 21, 2012, 02:01:40 pm
To make something that I (and other devs) like to play.
Seems like you've failed then.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Cicero on June 21, 2012, 02:04:18 pm
btw how can chadz make this game with his decision?

I saw chadz with this : heraldic armour / ninja hood  , and he was not trolling , he cant even block more than 2 attacks i mean if you gonna make this game to let chadz kill at least 1 or 2 we are so fucked
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Vibe on June 21, 2012, 02:17:20 pm
Seems like you've failed then.

explain


btw how can chadz make this game with his decision?

I saw chadz with this : heraldic armour / ninja hood  , and he was not trolling , he cant even block more than 2 attacks i mean if you gonna make this game to let chadz kill at least 1 or 2 we are so fucked

brilliant logic
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Cicero on June 21, 2012, 02:19:45 pm
explain


brilliant logic
i was so fuckin serious , cant you see ?

You are just here to say something to me its so obvious hater
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: chadz on June 21, 2012, 02:20:37 pm
btw how can chadz make this game with his decision?

I saw chadz with this : heraldic armour / ninja hood  , and he was not trolling , he cant even block more than 2 attacks i mean if you gonna make this game to let chadz kill at least 1 or 2 we are so fucked

And you know what? I'm not making those decisions for just that reason.

GOSH.

twist of the year.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Cicero on June 21, 2012, 02:22:49 pm
And you know what? I'm not making those decisions for just that reason.

GOSH.

twist of the year.
I am just telling you guys are better than Mount&Blade devs even if they are turkish.But about game mechanics and balance you know nothing because u know nothing about the game =)

Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Leshma on June 21, 2012, 02:23:04 pm
Seems like you've failed then.

cmp plays late at night
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Teeth on June 21, 2012, 02:33:25 pm
explain
Rarely see any of the devs play.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Paul on June 21, 2012, 02:33:48 pm
I am just telling you guys are better than Mount&Blade devs even if they are turkish.But about game mechanics and balance you know nothing because u know nothing about the game =)

chadz actually was a member of the Pan-German Warband Nations Cup team a couple of years ago and we did pretty good. So he ain't that clueless as you suspect. Also he keeps out of balancing/mechanic stuff changes in cRPG most of the time as far as I know.

Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Vibe on June 21, 2012, 02:36:28 pm
Rarely see any of the devs play.

That doesn't mean they don't like how they made the mod. Some people have little time to play.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: v/onMega on June 21, 2012, 02:44:24 pm
 :mrgreen:

Paranoid, thats what you are.
Stated my opinion, you asked for one.

Now first go and wash ur dirty hands. Afterwards clean your eyes from all that sand that made out of the vagina of yours.

Your abillity to read (and comprehend) obv. has gotten even worse.

Cant be angry at you, you re too funny in such a pathetic way.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Joker86 on June 21, 2012, 02:45:35 pm
I am just telling you guys are better than Mount&Blade devs even if they are turkish.

 :lol:

If anything, being Turkish should be treated as handicap.


Just to mention one thing, Cicero: the pure fact that (you claim) you are a good and capable player does NOT make you an expert in matters of game developing. You became good by finding a way to dominate other players, and this way, your playstyle, makes you heavily biased and your gaming experience will always base on that subjective experience. For example, if your playstlye relied on spinstabs, and it works, and you play the game for months that way, and it gets changed, of course you think the game has been broken.

But from a developer's point of view, who for example (it's really just an example, so calm down!) want the players to move in formation and stuff, spin stabs don't fit into their concept, and so they need to be removed.

Players look at a game from the point of view of gaining highest efficiency. Game developers see the basic game design, atmosphere, gameplay and so on.

And because it is the developer's mod, and not the player's mod, the developers decide. If your ideas of the game differ from those of the devs, then you have bad luck. There is nothing more to say. Deal with it or look for another game.

Short version: Michael Schumacher and Sebastian Vettel don't design/construct F1 race cars. And yes, they are probably the most skilled and Schumacher one of the oldest users, and still he has no clue how it works. From time to time he is being asked which settings for certain things (hard/soft clutch, seats, stuff like that) he prefers, but that's already everything he has to do with development.


Edit:

Whatever i should not open a topic to discuss the new patch , many haters are here lol.

The poll says it clearly. People are not hating, your opinion does just not represent the opinion of the majority. To shift the responsibility for the result on hating, indicating that you are still right but just not given right due to personal differences is no sign of objectiveness.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Teeth on June 21, 2012, 02:48:07 pm
That doesn't mean they don't like how they made the mod. Some people have little time to play.
In a full year I think they would've had some time on their hands to play on some occasions if they actually liked playing the game.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Vibe on June 21, 2012, 02:52:18 pm
In a full year I think they would've had some time on their hands to play on some occasions if they actually liked playing the game.

Who says they don't play on occasion
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Leshma on June 21, 2012, 02:52:37 pm
chadz, what do you think about idea to turn this mod into crusader wars?

Seems that our turkish friends aren't satisfied with the game anymore. Giving them chance to avenge their ancestors and spread the light of islam in a lot more serious manner than before would definately mobilize a lot more players from islamic countries than we have now.

Also, religious fanatics from the other side would also come in greater numbers.

Things would become a lot more serious than now, bad blood would be everywhere.

Only negative aspect of such decision would be loss of our dear weeaboo frineds but I think we could manage without them.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: bosco on June 21, 2012, 02:56:57 pm
Things would become a lot more serious than now, bad blood would be everywhere.

Can it get more serious than death threats and planning the sexual abuse of minors?
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Teeth on June 21, 2012, 03:03:21 pm
Who says they don't play on occasion
If you really want to believe that they love their own mod that bad, go ahead.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Vibe on June 21, 2012, 03:04:32 pm
If you really want to believe that they love their own mod that bad, go ahead.

Why would they work for free on a mod they don't like
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Teeth on June 21, 2012, 03:17:38 pm
Why would they work for free on a mod they don't like
Because, although hard to believe, they care for this community and they probably like working on the mod. Thats all I can think off, it amazes me aswell.

Yeah, lets complain that developers are still supporting the project, and for free.
Who's doing that? Not me.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Corsair831 on June 21, 2012, 03:49:11 pm
When you gonna change this retarted fuckin new game mechanics ?

It's totally fail cant you see / understand ?

Playing in strat battle on EU server is like playing with NA ping . Ghosting , ultra glance , ridicilous hits

In bashibazouk we have nearly 60 people and noone of them like new one and we are searching different games or playing in servers which dont have latest patch like rageball.

Also i couldnt hear from any of my friends from cRPG that they liked new patch.

Hope you will take your attention because we wanna play cRPG

cicero this might have something to do with the fact that the entire bashibazouk clan are armoured 2h spamming noobs who would have a hard time beating a novice bot on nditions. Pro tip - lose the armour spam, lose the greatsword, and get better at the game ;).
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: gazda on June 21, 2012, 03:49:20 pm
When you gonna change this retarted fuckin new game mechanics ?

It's totally fail cant you see / understand ?

Playing in strat battle on EU server is like playing with NA ping . Ghosting , ultra glance , ridicilous hits

In bashibazouk we have nearly 60 people and noone of them like new one and we are searching different games or playing in servers which dont have latest patch like rageball.

Also i couldnt hear from any of my friends from cRPG that they liked new patch.

Hope you will take your attention because we wanna play cRPG

damnit cicero, allah is dissapointed
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Tzar on June 21, 2012, 03:50:39 pm
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Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Vicious666 on June 21, 2012, 03:59:53 pm
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Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Tzar on June 21, 2012, 04:01:09 pm
i have the solution of all your problems guys




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Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Vicious666 on June 21, 2012, 04:03:00 pm
I dun get it.


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Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Tzar on June 21, 2012, 04:04:52 pm

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Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Kafein on June 21, 2012, 04:22:06 pm
Looks like Vicious learned something today and wanted to share with you  :)
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: Vicious666 on June 21, 2012, 04:46:52 pm
Looks like Vicious learned something today and wanted to share with you  :)

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Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: HarunYahya on June 21, 2012, 05:57:35 pm
Gosh , you guys went full retard ... again....
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 21, 2012, 06:19:16 pm
lovely cRPG developer's sentence  , i was used to read this from chadz . Let me explain those rude and non-elite people in their language

He is saying " This is our mod if you dont like gtfo "
I really hope you and your friends leave soon.
Title: Re: Do u like new patch ?
Post by: rufio on June 21, 2012, 06:26:54 pm
now now , shame to see this thread go in the direction it went in :?