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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Leshma on June 18, 2012, 11:45:15 pm

Title: Buff staves
Post by: Leshma on June 18, 2012, 11:45:15 pm
You buffed that gay katana for Thomek and his fellow homosexuals who like to wear black hoods.

Show some love for us, please!

This is serious thread btw.

Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on June 19, 2012, 12:26:52 am
Eh, apart from the insult, I agree with the content.

The staves relied quite a lot on polestagger, especially quarter staff. Slightly more damage to them and maybe slightly higher price to compensate would make them a little more useable again.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Leshma on June 19, 2012, 12:34:33 am
Staves never had polestagger...
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on June 19, 2012, 12:39:06 am
Really? Oh. I mustn't have paid attention then while playing my polearm guy(s), never really been too fussed about game mechanics and character optimization.

Anyway, they do seem a little meh at times and I think it wouldn't hurt if they were buffed a bit.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Miwiw on June 19, 2012, 12:44:37 am
More dmg, less speed, less spammable?
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Gurnisson on June 19, 2012, 01:59:34 am
They're fine
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Leshma on June 19, 2012, 02:05:30 am
Katana was fine but ninjas wear less armor so they buffed. Staffmen use a lot less armor than ninjas.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Baggy on June 19, 2012, 04:00:28 am
QS needs a slight buff.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Gurnisson on June 19, 2012, 04:25:22 am
QS needs a slight buff.

No, it's a very good 1 slot weapon. Used +3 QS as dedicated lancer and it's incredibly fast and also have knockdown. Iron Staff could maybe use a slight buff since it's two slots, but not the QS.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Digglez on June 19, 2012, 08:27:09 am
i think staff dmg & speed is fine, what they need is better range, like +25 at least.  No reason why a warspear, designed for thrusting, should be out-ranging a blunted staff on its side swings
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Wraist on June 19, 2012, 08:43:15 am
i think staff dmg & speed is fine, what they need is better range, like +25 at least.  No reason why a warspear, designed for thrusting, should be out-ranging a blunted staff on its side swings

???
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on June 19, 2012, 08:52:57 am
Buff everything Leshma plays with, nerf the rest
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Everkistus on June 19, 2012, 09:13:37 am
Personally I think Staff and Quarter Staff are good at the moment.

Iron Staff could use either +1 speed or +1 to both damages.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Leshma on June 19, 2012, 12:04:39 pm
Or to become one slot as well. It's buff to ranged and cav a bit but nothing gamebreaking.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Deathwhisper on June 19, 2012, 01:22:39 pm
Agreed, Qstaff is fine just buff Iron staff.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Peasant_Woman on June 19, 2012, 01:34:32 pm
I'd like a tier of staff above Iron. Rename the current Iron staff to banded staff or something and call the new one Iron staff and make it all metal. Use the original staffs model and texture.. well... GREY.
Suggesting stats;

Iron staff
weight: 3
speed rating: 91
weapon length: 128
thrust damage: 25 blunt
swing damage: 27 blunt
slots: 2
Knockdown

This staff would serve those who want a slightly higher knockdown chance and blunt damage at the cost of speed and 1 length.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 19, 2012, 01:38:20 pm
I haven't used them much but im pretty sure they are fine for being 1 slot :)
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: gazda on June 19, 2012, 01:45:21 pm
im gonna go 2h next gen, i better go and make " buff2h" tread.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Leshma on June 19, 2012, 02:59:26 pm
Gazda yoi should go 2H. Best class for nabs to play :P
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Banok on June 20, 2012, 01:11:48 am
+3 blunt wooden stick does 24 poke damage, +3  sharp pointy katana does 17 poke damage.

Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Leshma on June 20, 2012, 01:52:25 am
Katana can't penetrate anything and wooden stick to the stomach hurts a lot.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: isatis on June 20, 2012, 02:02:00 am
No, it's a very good 1 slot weapon. Used +3 QS as dedicated lancer and it's incredibly fast and also have knockdown. Iron Staff could maybe use a slight buff since it's two slots, but not the QS.

you mean... you lance people with staff and they can be knocked down!!!

OMG SO AMAZING

(I hope I understand correctly and that you used staff as main wep...)
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Camaris on June 20, 2012, 09:59:09 am
I'd like a tier of staff above Iron. Rename the current Iron staff to banded staff or something and call the new one Iron staff and make it all metal. Use the original staffs model and texture.. well... GREY.
Suggesting stats;

Iron staff
weight: 3
speed rating: 91
weapon length: 128
thrust damage: 25 blunt
swing damage: 27 blunt
slots: 2
Knockdown

This staff would serve those who want a slightly higher knockdown chance and blunt damage at the cost of speed and 1 length.
i´d go with that one. perhaps speed 93-95 and higher price.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 20, 2012, 11:57:25 am
you mean... you lance people with staff and they can be knocked down!!!

OMG SO AMAZING

(I hope I understand correctly and that you used staff as main wep...)

No he uses it as a secondary with a lance as primary.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Kafein on June 20, 2012, 02:15:33 pm
Or to become one slot as well. It's buff to ranged and cav a bit but nothing gamebreaking.

I doubt more than 10% of ranged players are ready to use a pole as sidearm, given how these affect aiming.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: isatis on June 20, 2012, 07:06:06 pm
No he uses it as a secondary with a lance as primary.

NOO my dream!!

I feared that....
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Bulzur on June 20, 2012, 08:02:36 pm
Iron Staff should stay 2 slot, it's not a weapon for cav.

But i agree a slight buff for it would be good.

Others are definitely fine.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on June 20, 2012, 08:07:32 pm
Quarterstaff is very quick, decent reach, and 1 slot. For the price you pay it's a good item. Iron staff doesn't really stand out from the other knockdown polearms. It has a stronger thrust than swing, but not by much. I'd rather take a long hafted knobbed/spiked mace than an iron staff.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Leshma on June 20, 2012, 08:18:29 pm
Iron Staff should stay 2 slot, it's not a weapon for cav.

Why not?

What I don't understand why are ranged hybrids allowed to shoot a player from distance then pull out melee weapon to fight but people who want to switch to different melee playstyles aren't allowed?

Slots system needs some rework. It's old and comes from the time when only balancers were Fasader and Paul. Now, when a lot more people are working on balance it is immensely better than before.
Title: Re: Buff staves
Post by: Riddaren on June 20, 2012, 09:21:23 pm
Buff everything Leshma plays with, nerf the rest

Not a very clever suggestion.