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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Sarpton on June 18, 2012, 06:52:53 pm

Title: Forced First person
Post by: Sarpton on June 18, 2012, 06:52:53 pm: I propose a (possibly) simple idea to freshen up the usual zerg rush that is most battles.

My proposition is that on a possibly random chance 1:20 rounds or what have you; that the server upon loading a new map that map is forced first person.

Now I understand the reluctance of removing player options like these, but it would , in my mind, freshen the fighting just a bit. Give everyone a new prespective, and a chance for more fun if only through novelty. It being forced means everyone is on an even playing field.

I can't for the life of me see a reason why this would be bad, so if you see a glaring reason why not please let me know.

Okay I get it most of you guys just enjoy vanilla battle with no changes.

Reset poll because of wording, but honestly seems kinda pointless.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Miwiw on June 18, 2012, 07:08:27 pm: I won't play this game with forced first person. It's made for 3rd person.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: TurmoilTom on June 18, 2012, 07:09:34 pm: Quote from: Miwiw99 on June 18, 2012, 07:08:27 pm
I won't play this game with forced first person. It's made for 3rd person.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Zisa on June 18, 2012, 07:10:18 pm: You can still look around in first person.
Sadly, it is hard to see what your character is doing.
No.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Peasant_Woman on June 18, 2012, 07:10:42 pm: Ever died in first person? The deathspin makes me feel like throwing up.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on June 18, 2012, 07:15:03 pm: 1st person view server would be kinda cool.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 18, 2012, 09:12:15 pm: If warband came out as first person only this would work, you can't expect to force first person on a game that's like 3 or 4 years old (well for me anyways since the beta was so long for warband) and then this mod has been out for almost 2 years (maybe it's already been 2). And not including the first M&B...

To remove the view that 75+% of the players use for melee combat would be game breaking. Although I wish Warband was a first person only game from the beginning (you'd probably have to have a larger Field of View however to see what your weapon was doing when you swung it).

Disclosure: I play 99% of my time on cavalry lancer in 1st person, sometimes I switch to 3rd if I don't think I'll be thrusting my lance in the immediate future. For infantry I'm always in 3rd person, and for archer or xbow I'm in 3rd person when moving/melee'ing, and 1st person when shooting.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Sarpton on June 18, 2012, 09:15:10 pm: Just an idea to spice things up a bit. Since new game modes are kinda outta the question. I play in first person pretty much all the time when I'm pole/ throwing.

I mean just for a single map on a radom basis not a new server or anything just something to pop up and change the pace a bit that's all. NOT ALL THE TIME.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Saatana on June 18, 2012, 09:17:30 pm: The 1st person in Warband sucks hardcore. It's totally unplayable, I would support this idea if it would be even somewhat decent and playable... But no, just no.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Miwiw on June 18, 2012, 09:20:41 pm: Quote from: necron232 on June 18, 2012, 09:15:10 pm
Just an idea to spice things up a bit. Since new game modes are kinda outta the question. I play in first person pretty much all the time when I'm pole/ throwing.

I mean just for a single map on a radom basis not a new server or anything just something to pop up and change the pace a bit that's all. NOT ALL THE TIME.

Once is too much.
You can play 1st person whenever you want. But dont include us /myself.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Sarpton on June 18, 2012, 09:28:48 pm: Quote from: Miwiw99 on June 18, 2012, 09:20:41 pm
Once is too much.
You can play 1st person whenever you want. But dont include us /myself.

Well just an idea I had. Do you have a better idea to spice things up some? Or is the 3 game modes enough for you?
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Miwiw on June 18, 2012, 09:32:06 pm: I'm satisfied with battle alone, playing battle every day since more than 2 years. :)

Sometimes 1st person, but only with crossbow and bow.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Sarpton on June 18, 2012, 09:42:15 pm: Ahh okay, well I like more random events personally, if they did a "only gear worth 10k and below" night or something I would love it. But its not for everyone, the purpose of this thread was more to get some idea's flowing see if devs are at all receptive to the idea of game modes/ server settings like this.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 18, 2012, 11:27:54 pm: And under 10k gear wouldn't work unless we could turn off the chadztext/all thine hard work has paid off... message (which would be awesome if we could).
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Bulzur on June 18, 2012, 11:30:31 pm: Damn, too stupid to read. Voted "no", in reference to the thread title : "Forced first person" and forgot to read the question : "would you mind if..."

And i expect i'm not the only one. Just allow to change votes... else it sometimes looks like you try to change the result.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 18, 2012, 11:44:19 pm: ya terrible wording on the poll
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Lizard_man on June 19, 2012, 12:11:29 am: First person is fucking awful...
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Rebelyell on June 19, 2012, 03:52:34 am: somtimes i duel in first person
its awesome
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Sarpton on June 19, 2012, 04:48:59 am: Quote from: Bulzur on June 18, 2012, 11:30:31 pm
Damn, too stupid to read. Voted "no", in reference to the thread title : "Forced first person" and forgot to read the question : "would you mind if..."

And i expect i'm not the only one. Just allow to change votes... else it sometimes looks like you try to change the result.

So you didn't read the thread and reactionary vote no. Sorry but if your not even going to read the idea why vote?
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Bulzur on June 19, 2012, 07:38:23 pm: Quote from: necron232 on June 19, 2012, 04:48:59 am

So you didn't read the thread and reactionary vote no. Sorry but if your not even going to read the idea why vote?

Because the title is explicite enough to understand what you're suggesting ?
Or by saying "forced first person", what did you want to say other than Force First Person for all playes ?
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: zagibu on June 19, 2012, 11:16:50 pm: Quote from: Bulzur on June 19, 2012, 07:38:23 pm
Because the title is explicite enough to understand what you're suggesting ?
Or by saying "forced first person", what did you want to say other than Force First Person for all playes ?

Or maybe the answer is simply that you are a lazy bitch?
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Dalfador on June 19, 2012, 11:27:50 pm: no
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Baggy on June 20, 2012, 12:05:23 am: maybe
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Joker86 on June 20, 2012, 05:23:37 am: I like the intention of spicing things up, but I think the suggestion just fails at the fact that the game is almost unplayable in 1st person mode.

You don't have a feeling for your weapon reach, nor can you see if your sideswing will wound a teammate. Compared to 3rd person 1st person feel like tunnel vision, you field of view is mssively reduced and thus you are less aware of your surroundings. The last point is not that bad in itself, but after being used to play in 3rd person for years it just feels like "crippling" the game for no real reason. Sure, it's some kind of "lol"-thing, like those (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFemZhYNSeY) flying carpets and magic wands, but it's only suitable for certain occasions, where everyone expects it.

But on a public server where 80-90% of all people connect in expectation of a serious game, the "lol half of our losses were inflicted by teammates"-thing won't be taken as fun by most users.

That's why your suggestion is declined.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: OttomanSniper on June 20, 2012, 07:25:43 pm: First person is good for archery but i cant see block way on fp.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Zandieer on June 20, 2012, 09:13:18 pm: Quote from: Peasant_Woman on June 18, 2012, 07:10:42 pm
Ever died in first person? The deathspin makes me feel like throwing up.
Haha I love that! Amazing when falling of a wall!

(click to show/hide)
Ever died in real life? It's like that :mrgreen:

Had to.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: zagibu on June 20, 2012, 10:54:15 pm: Actually, I think I can judge the reach of my weapon better in first person. But the fact about the tunnel vision is true. I don't think this is a problem, though, when it's like this for everyone. You just have to be more careful with side swings, that's all.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 21, 2012, 06:01:52 pm: Quote from: zagibu on June 20, 2012, 10:54:15 pm
Actually, I think I can judge the reach of my weapon better in first person. But the fact about the tunnel vision is true. I don't think this is a problem, though, when it's like this for everyone. You just have to be more careful with side swings, that's all.

That's why I use first person when stabbing/couching with my heavy lance on horse. I can judge the tip of the lance a lot easier than in third person (but you lose a lot of awareness unless you keep your head on a swivel).
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Frell on June 21, 2012, 06:49:11 pm: I 100% support this, but it will never happen and all it does is force 3rd person play which piles upon the existing flaws that makes this game very unrealistic.

Thats why im only playing mount and blade while I wait for chivalry 2 (http://www.chivalrythegame.com/)
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Dalhi on June 21, 2012, 06:54:36 pm: In Native some time ago one of my clanmates played in first person, he was really good player overall but also epic teamkiller. First person view is awfull for battle/siege pretty, it might work for duels I even tried it ages ago but I always had a feeling that camera bahaves wierd, probably needs some time to adjust, but still no.
Title: Re: Forced First person
Post by: Sarpton on June 22, 2012, 07:51:36 am: Well I pretty much knew it wasn't a stellar idea, it was more to see if anyone had any fun ideas that aren't exactly new game modes but would spice things up.

Like some sort of EVENT where "oh noes NA/EU 1 has been over run with sea raiders, band together and wipe them from the field!" Or today at * random time* On NA 5/EU 5 your armors have been replaced with peasant gear!" Maybe that woudl be more palatable and give the play the OPTION to join in or not. I just couldn't think of something that would be both easy to just slap on a server and be enough of a spice to be worth while.

But hey if you've got some idea why not put em up? It can only be a good thing to get more ideas out!