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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: BlueKnight on June 09, 2012, 11:51:55 pm

Title: EU_5
Post by: BlueKnight on June 09, 2012, 11:51:55 pm
 I stayed on EU 1 until I lost multi and was lvl 14 already. Then i joined EU_5. I have joined EU 5 because I retired not so far ago. When I entered UE 5 there was nobody that could kill me because I was already able to wear my 65 body armour lol. I had 16-3 build that time. I killed so many of them they decided to kick me. They have also kicked Guard_Tristan who is an admin lol...

If I am lvl 14 but can't play there then please switch the votable kick/ban thing off. They are just kicking non-peasants. In fact I think that even if I was playing in peasant gear, they would kick me because these guys were except 2 or 3, newcomers. Dunno what to do about it but also 1 of my friends who had an arbalest got banned because he was shooting the peasants... but he was damn low lvl as well... There is something wrong there with that server. I like the idea. Fighting gives so much fun when peasants engage each other but that kicking/banning is just eh...

EDIT: Gear restrictions needed
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Falka on June 10, 2012, 12:07:59 am
I think you shouldn't be allowed to go there and kill all poor peasants  :| That's not fair... General idea is great, but if high gen ppl can bring here their expensive, loomed stuff newbies still will have no chance to survive.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Arrowblood on June 10, 2012, 12:10:05 am
make a  rule that u can only use gear up to 1k
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: BlueKnight on June 10, 2012, 12:12:16 am
Still... I could use some cheap axe or something, but when there are only poor peasants and they have problems with blocking, they won't be satisfied anyway :\

There was Plavor for a while and we were fighting with our good stuff and low speed weapons. It was ridiculous and Others can use armours as well anyway.

I think you shouldn't be allowed to go there and kill all poor peasants  :| That's not fair...

It was funny for a while but then I stopped feeling good :[
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Leshma on June 10, 2012, 12:19:53 am
Just forbid veteran players to play there, problem solved.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: BlueKnight on June 10, 2012, 12:23:12 am
Just forbid veteran players to play there, problem solved.

What is veteran player formula?
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Leshma on June 10, 2012, 12:26:55 am
Generation higher than... lets say 3? Only for mains though. Alts shouldn't be allowed to play there.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Falka on June 10, 2012, 12:32:24 am
Someone already suggested that ppl who have KDR above e.g. 1/2 shouldn't be allowed to play there. Or maybe it would be better to base on KRD made on EU_5. Although I don't know if it's possible.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 10, 2012, 12:32:42 am
Generation higher than... lets say 3? Only for mains though. Alts shouldn't be allowed to play there.
FU, I was having fun on that server using a peasant alt with no stats set and some stones in melee/ranged mode, so stop hatin'.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: BlueKnight on June 10, 2012, 12:34:04 am
Generation higher than... lets say 3? Only for mains though. Alts shouldn't be allowed to play there.
But then server would remain empty :P there aren't many "very low gen" and "just after retire" players. I think the gear cost restriction would be better. If you get enough str you can 1-shoot everything with arbalest and 15 str comes with even low level.
I would set gold restriction on eeeee... 8k-9k
 rouncey is like a tank when it comes to peasant wars so you shouldn't be able to ride it, also you can't use normal crossbow+ and you can't take any great melee weapon and stay well armoured.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 10, 2012, 12:35:07 am
Someone already suggested that ppl who have KDR above e.g. 1/2 shouldn't be allowed to play there. Or maybe it would be better to base on KRD made on EU_5. Although I don't know if it's possible.
So, if a person just joins, and kills 1 guy without first dying he'd technically be locked out forever, seems sorta stupid to me.
A server enforcing gear bellow the total worth of 7k (so you can run a cav with a sumpter if you please it) would be more fun.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Falka on June 10, 2012, 12:37:13 am
But then server would remain empty :P there aren't many "very low gen" and "just after retire" players.

Steam just put the MnB franchise on sale.

Here come the peasants.

Do you hear them? They're coming  :wink:
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Kato on June 10, 2012, 12:37:48 am
Generation higher than... lets say 3? Only for mains though. Alts shouldn't be allowed to play there.

yeah, great idea and server will die in one weak

I would simple set max body armor restriction to 45(body + gloves) and no heavy cav rule, so peasant infantry and low level archers have a chance. 
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Falka on June 10, 2012, 12:39:53 am
So, if a person just joins, and kills 1 guy without first dying he'd technically be locked out forever, seems sorta stupid to me.

KDR not more than 2:1 and at least 100 kills (or 50 or whatever), problem solved  8-)
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: BlueKnight on June 10, 2012, 12:42:23 am
KDR not more than 2:1 and at least 100 kills (or 50 or whatever), problem solved  8-)

Is it low lvl or noobie server ? c'mon...
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Falka on June 10, 2012, 12:44:10 am
Is it low lvl or noobie server ? c'mon...

I thought it was planned as newbie server, am I wrong?
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: BlueKnight on June 10, 2012, 12:49:36 am
I thought it was planned as newbie server, am I wrong?
I don't know rly. There was just something like maximum level is 20... Nothing about newcomers I guess. maybe the x1,5 exp buff means that it is for low gen newcomers :s ?
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Bulzur on June 10, 2012, 02:12:22 am
I also saw it as a low level server, not a newbie server.
And i don't see why, if i start a new alt level1, he shouldn't be allowed in this server, just because i have a decent gen main.

It's only till level 20 anyway. And... every melee should of course stack str first to use their weapon and armors, that seems normal to me.

Maybe restrict the server to gen 1-3, may they be alts or mains, and for the kick polls... well, can't do anything about it. Even if they're knew to cRPG, it's normal to get owned by someone who played warband or even normal M&B with manual blocking. But he's still new to cRPG, with no money, no looms, etc... Is it still a reason to kick ? No.

But i'd appreciate a confirmation from the devs. What is the real population to wich this server is aimed at ?
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: cmp on June 10, 2012, 02:38:24 am
It's a low level server, not a newbie server. It says that in the server name.
I'll think about gear restriction, but gen restriction are out of the question.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 10, 2012, 02:42:17 am
It's a low level server, not a newbie server. It says that in the server name.
I'll think about gear restriction, but gen restriction are out of the question.
A max 7k gear restriction would be epic.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Kafein on June 10, 2012, 02:42:29 am
Is it low lvl or noobie server ? c'mon...

The difference is irrelevant, if people that are supposed to enjoy the server are roflstomped, maybe there's something to change.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Tristan on June 10, 2012, 02:42:47 am
As blueknight revealed I toyed around there as well.

The problem as such is that lvl 15+ chars can, if skilling pure str, wear quite heavy armor.
wpf doesn't matter much on such lvl's sometimes not even on other servers as good players have shown.

So if a good player comes in good eq, with enough str. He will steamroll this server.

I think eq restrictions would be good. Could be fun to have a low level low eq server.

stf starts with 10k eq. new players less. Max 10k eq on the noob server?

Case: When I quit the server I was lvl 20. Wearing my loomed armor, weapon and gloves I could single handedly kill the whole enemy team.
And as most of you know, I am by far a good player. Mediocre at best.

The last 5 lvls from 15 to 20 makes a huge difference.

When I got on the normal eu1 my stats plummeted to like 2-5 and such :(
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Plavor on June 10, 2012, 02:45:32 am
+1 for Tristan
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 10, 2012, 02:55:49 am
+1 for Tristan
+1 for forgetting to actually 1+.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 10, 2012, 12:32:29 pm
Generation higher than... lets say 3? Only for mains though. Alts shouldn't be allowed to play there.
wut? they did finally a good move to make Alts more attractive with this as well.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: LordBerenger on June 10, 2012, 01:00:56 pm
It's a low level server, not a newbie server. It says that in the server name.
I'll think about gear restriction, but gen restriction are out of the question.

Pure bullshit. I went in with Board Shield + 1h Axe and Trans armor, hourglass gauntlets, topfhelm, cased greaves (okay okay you might consider it douchebaggy). But the enemies had decent armor as well as HA's bumping and teaming up together as well as Lungy and his damn couching. How's that fair?

It's just that i put most my points into STR at that time (lvl 15 then).

And it ended up with me getting poll kicked but these my old friends kept bumping with HA and other shit.


Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: BlackMilk on June 10, 2012, 01:06:25 pm
Generation higher than... lets say 3? Only for mains though. Alts shouldn't be allowed to play there.
are you retarded?
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Leshma on June 10, 2012, 02:09:35 pm
I thought it was noob friendly server. I was there yesterday, in 65 body armor and with a good weapon. At level 12 I was able to use my loomed gear. Only thing that stopped me having 20-0 score every round are few equally well equipped alts of other veterans.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: bruce on June 10, 2012, 02:14:02 pm
The roflstompings should stop, let newbies level. In support of gear cost restriction.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Strudog on June 10, 2012, 02:23:26 pm
EU_5 is just silly, people in milanese plate playing the server to abuse the x5, then they just respec and do it all over again.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 10, 2012, 02:33:42 pm
EU_5 is just silly, people in milanese plate playing the server to abuse the x5, then they just respec and do it all over again.
Milanese plate isn't that great, issue with EU_5 is a bunch of noobs constantly ragepolling whichever skilled play happens to kill them.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Masthuggo on June 10, 2012, 02:56:28 pm
Where is the permanent x1.5 multiplier to experience gained??
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Tristan on June 10, 2012, 03:02:10 pm
The servers idea is good but it needs thought. I had to respec and so tried it again today.

Eq gold limitations would do the trick. Lets have a peasant server :D
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: BlueKnight on June 10, 2012, 05:53:55 pm
Lol I started a useful topic :D
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: cmp on June 10, 2012, 06:09:56 pm
Where is the permanent x1.5 multiplier to experience gained??

Display is broken until the next update. You can fix it by opening the escape menu and clicking on Show Game Rules every time you join the server.
You'll still get x1.5 on the website no matter what.

Eq gold limitations would do the trick. Lets have a peasant server :D

I added an equipment value limit server setting in the next update. It will be used by EU5.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 10, 2012, 06:18:08 pm
Display is broken until the next update. You can fix it by opening the escape menu and clicking on Show Game Rules every time you join the server.
You'll still get x1.5 on the website no matter what.

I added an equipment value limit server setting in the next update. It will be used by EU5.
How high is the limit? If it kills my gear set I'll cry btw.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Rebelyell on June 10, 2012, 06:25:55 pm
Display is broken until the next update. You can fix it by opening the escape menu and clicking on Show Game Rules every time you join the server.
You'll still get x1.5 on the website no matter what.

I added an equipment value limit server setting in the next update. It will be used by EU5.
eq limit is very needed
i joined today that server with my  20 lvl 1h/lancer cav alt
I had loldry armor and champ charger from my main and....
most of kill was by bump
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Araxiel on June 10, 2012, 08:13:58 pm
Make it a non-chadz text server if you are going to restrict armour please.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: cmp on June 10, 2012, 08:38:06 pm
Make it a non-chadz text server if you are going to restrict armour please.

Good point, added in next update.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Seastalker on June 10, 2012, 09:54:01 pm
I think all gear should be treated as non-loomed on that server.

Or, if there would be a total gear value limit, looms should be considered as higher value towards the limit.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: cmp on June 10, 2012, 09:56:57 pm
They are.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: BlindGuy on June 10, 2012, 10:13:32 pm
cmp was it you banned me for revenge TW today?
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: cmp on June 10, 2012, 10:38:23 pm
No, I didn't play today. Ask in unban section.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: JennaHaze on June 10, 2012, 10:42:10 pm
Next gen i will take a flamberge and tincan stuff and kill dat peasants!
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: cmp on June 10, 2012, 10:43:39 pm
A Flamberge alone is way over the equipment value limit.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Belenos on June 10, 2012, 10:45:02 pm
i m ready to pay 100k to have an hour vip access in the peasant land!
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: BlindGuy on June 10, 2012, 11:02:19 pm
No, I didn't play today. Ask in unban section.

Nah Ill sit it out, revenge teamwound is against rules, 1day ban seems fine.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Bulzur on June 11, 2012, 12:09:00 am
Damn, wanted to try it, since i'm under level 20, but it seems it's not on. :(
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: cmp on June 11, 2012, 12:10:51 am
It's on, there's 20 players in it.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Bulzur on June 11, 2012, 12:11:50 am
Oh, i see it now, didn't saw it before. Thanks for the quick answer cmp.

Oh, it seems to be a permanent x1. So... a permanent x1.5. And still getting bullied by level 18 cav anyway. Back to server eu1_NEW. Low level archery is shit anyway...
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: cmp on June 11, 2012, 12:13:56 am
If you had it in favorites there's a bug that keeps removing it. It will be fixed in the next patch.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 11, 2012, 12:15:01 am
CMP please tell us what the actual gear maximum cost is gonna be.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: cmp on June 11, 2012, 12:16:13 am
Haven't decided yet, probably around 15k.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 11, 2012, 12:22:42 am
Haven't decided yet, probably around 15k.
If possible would 20k where 5k would only be allowed to be put in armor (for example Rouncey, light lance, and Scale armor but not rouncey and heavy lance and naked body) be anything you wish to consider? (Yes I'm very biased as that's my most expensive gear I'll use on a 20 or bellow alt would have that price)
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Bulzur on June 11, 2012, 12:26:26 am
As long as it prevents Rouncey + heavy lance + good armor. I'm okay with that.


And... can we get chadz text in here ? Very important question.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Tristan on June 11, 2012, 12:48:05 am
As long as it prevents Rouncey + heavy lance + good armor. I'm okay with that.


And... can we get chadz text in here ? Very important question.

I'd prefer if you did not. But then maybe got a small bonus to get it after.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Bulzur on June 11, 2012, 01:00:41 am
I certainly hope we do not, indeed.

Okay, eu5 is okay, but certainly not balanced. Easy to own and stay on a constant x5, but then you're pretty soon out, so it's okay. Too bad the server crashed while i was on x5. Still a good thing, definitely. And.. incredibly, i met Okin there. (i teamkilled him :( )
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: cmp on June 11, 2012, 01:02:20 am
chadztext is disabled in EU5.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: BlueKnight on June 11, 2012, 01:09:46 am
chadztext is disabled in EU5.
Good job.  :wink:
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Bulzur on June 11, 2012, 01:16:20 am
So it's definitely the perfect place to be. Hope this simple statement will make more people interested in this server, so that it has its rightfull place.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Strudog on June 11, 2012, 12:30:59 pm
on the new eu_5 server, jarids cost 10000 in stead of 5000 (general figures) please fix
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: cmp on June 11, 2012, 12:56:53 pm
Are they loomed?
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Strudog on June 11, 2012, 01:00:35 pm
ignore me im being stupid
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Jarlek on June 12, 2012, 04:38:13 pm
Wow. cmpxchg8b is doing a lot of work for this server :D

Nice to see you care! Good job :D
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Leshma on June 12, 2012, 04:39:46 pm
Cmpx doing a lot of work lately, I'm impressed.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Jarlek on June 12, 2012, 04:43:11 pm
Cmpx doing a lot of work lately, I'm impressed.
Yeah. We should send him some cookies.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: LordBerenger on June 12, 2012, 05:11:12 pm
Yeah. We should send him some cookies.

Zappers granny's homemade cookies.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: BlindGuy on June 12, 2012, 05:32:21 pm
Yeah. We should send him some cookies.


You cant, he disabled cookies.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Corsair831 on June 12, 2012, 05:44:06 pm
But then server would remain empty :P there aren't many "very low gen" and "just after retire" players. I think the gear cost restriction would be better. If you get enough str you can 1-shoot everything with arbalest and 15 str comes with even low level.
I would set gold restriction on eeeee... 8k-9k
 rouncey is like a tank when it comes to peasant wars so you shouldn't be able to ride it, also you can't use normal crossbow+ and you can't take any great melee weapon and stay well armoured.

lol blueknight, i only use 8,500 of gear on regular EU1 ... you can actually have some pretty good light armour builds for low money ... i'd say even lower lol ...
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Mlekce on June 12, 2012, 05:47:21 pm
Imagine when druzina vovka go to that server with druzina elite armor 53 body,20 leg,metal boots,mw kas and loomed crossbow.
Impossibru to kill,every hit bounce. Server is infested with HA,crossbows,and dudes with 21 str and mauls.
Peasant don't have a chance. x1 all the time.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: BlindGuy on June 12, 2012, 06:23:05 pm
Imagine when druzina vovka go to that server with druzina elite armor 53 body,20 leg,metal boots,mw kas and loomed crossbow.
Impossibru to kill,every hit bounce. Server is infested with HA,crossbows,and dudes with 21 str and mauls.
Peasant don't have a chance. x1 all the time.


Purest bullshit. level 6 you can use bastard sword, and some decent armour, was getting scores of 20/1. 15k is nice limit, maybe a bit too high, but o well.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Jarlek on June 12, 2012, 06:42:29 pm
Zappers granny's homemade cookies.
Most badass cookies of them all!
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: Bulzur on June 12, 2012, 07:11:52 pm
AS an archer, all the top tier bow i had are loomed (once for some, two for the horn), so i could only use the tatar bow... Was fun though.
Title: Re: EU_5
Post by: BlindGuy on June 12, 2012, 07:13:44 pm
AS an archer, all the top tier bow i had are loomed (once for some, two for the horn), so i could only use the tatar bow... Was fun though.


?? limit is 15k