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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: NikMac on June 06, 2012, 02:46:51 am

Title: New 2h sword
Post by: NikMac on June 06, 2012, 02:46:51 am
I decided to put this in a different topic - suggestion of new, late medieval, 2h sword by Spak:

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Suggestion about stats (for regular):
weapon length: 130
weight: 3.2
difficulty: 16
speed rating: 89
thrust damage: 23 pierce
swing damage: 42 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
No Secondary Mode
Has sheath, so can be sheathed
price: ~16,800

It can be perfect intermediate option between Flamberge and Danish GS. It has all texture maps (Bump, Spec): File Factory - Click and dowload (http://www.filefactory.com/file/4yiqkywp6tbh/n/Spak2H_rar)
SendSpace - Click and dowload (http://www.sendspace.com/file/cigru3)
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Andy on June 06, 2012, 02:48:58 am
Nice. I see no problems with it.
+1
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Patoson on June 06, 2012, 02:57:57 am
It's beautiful!!!

Signed.

I can only approve!
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Rebelyell on June 06, 2012, 03:15:40 am
soo i know now what to do with my 3 loompoints
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: LordBerenger on June 06, 2012, 03:18:45 am
It's basically a mini flamberge? Lol Or Flamberge Lite if u want to call it that.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Zaren on June 06, 2012, 03:20:45 am
+1
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: NikMac on June 06, 2012, 03:29:56 am
It's basically a mini flamberge? Lol Or Flamberge Lite if u want to call it that.
Well, flamberge was called like this because of shape of it's blade :) And here we see straight blade, so it's just typical 15-16 century greatsword. But ofc You can call it minigun miniflamberge :D
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Black Wind on June 06, 2012, 04:59:23 am
For 16.8K, I'd expect it to hit a little harder than a danish consideribg 89 speed? :s
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Vkvkvk on June 06, 2012, 07:29:47 am
For 16.8K, I'd expect it to hit a little harder than a danish consideribg 89 speed? :s

It appears to make up for that by being the longest 2h in the game.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: autobus on June 06, 2012, 07:34:20 am
The materials are not cRPG-ish, it wont fit.
And i need to know the amount of faces on that model cause it seem to have too much geometry.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Black Wind on June 06, 2012, 09:34:07 am
It appears to make up for that by being the longest 2h in the game.

Flamberge = 153 reach,
This is 130 reach.

despite the polearm thrust, in comparison to a 2h thrust, all swings of the flamberge would be longer.
Therefore, the only way for this to exceed the reach of a flamberge would be if it had a 2h thrust.

It's slower than a nodachi, and does 3 less on the swing, yet costs a hefty 4k more. I think it should do atleast 43c on the swing, possibly even 44.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Ronin on June 06, 2012, 09:36:37 am
Or it's price should be lowered.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: HarunYahya on June 06, 2012, 10:10:37 am
130 lenght with current 2h stab animation ?
Bitch please....
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: [ptx] on June 06, 2012, 10:15:02 am
Flamberge = 153 reach,
This is 130 reach.

despite the polearm thrust, in comparison to a 2h thrust, all swings of the flamberge would be longer.
Therefore, the only way for this to exceed the reach of a flamberge would be if it had a 2h thrust.

It's slower than a nodachi, and does 3 less on the swing, yet costs a hefty 4k more. I think it should do atleast 43c on the swing, possibly even 44.

Flamberge has polearm swings as well.

A 130 length 2h with 43c swings? lolk.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Black Wind on June 06, 2012, 10:21:29 am
Flamberge has polearm swings as well yet still is longer than the 2h.

A 130 length 2h with 43c swings and long awlpike speed.

fixed.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Vingnir the Wanderer on June 06, 2012, 10:34:25 am
Your arms arnt long enough to unsheathe it.... lol
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Leshma on June 06, 2012, 12:53:45 pm
Flamberge has polearm swings as well.

Left swing, overhead and thrust are pole animations, right swing is 2H.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Lange on June 06, 2012, 01:16:56 pm
Yes please. Better yet, replace the flamberge. It's unrealistically oversized for a two-handed sword, yet totally useless with the bad polearm animations and the horrible speed. Get us a realistic renaissance Landsknecht-Zweihander, with a bit longer range than the greatswords, slower speed, maybe a pole-stab instead of a 2h-stab for balance. Basically, to the greatswords a mixture of what the glaive and the poleaxe are to the other pole- and longaxes.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: NikMac on June 06, 2012, 01:31:13 pm
The materials are not cRPG-ish, it wont fit.
And i need to know the amount of faces on that model cause it seem to have too much geometry.
1008 faces without sheath, 3 LOD's. 970 faces in sheath, 2 LOD's.
Flamberge = 153 reach,
This is 130 reach.

despite the polearm thrust, in comparison to a 2h thrust, all swings of the flamberge would be longer.
Therefore, the only way for this to exceed the reach of a flamberge would be if it had a 2h thrust.

It's slower than a nodachi, and does 3 less on the swing, yet costs a hefty 4k more. I think it should do atleast 43c on the swing, possibly even 44.
I suggested 42 cut for regular, which is be 45 cut as MW. +6 points length than a danish should be balanced by -3 points in speed.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: OpenPalm on June 06, 2012, 01:47:34 pm
1008 faces without sheath, 3 LOD's. 970 faces in sheath, 2 LOD's.

WHAT IS THIS SORCERY
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: zagibu on June 06, 2012, 10:17:45 pm
It looks good and I think those stats could work. Maybe pole stab?
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Bjord on June 06, 2012, 10:26:55 pm
Thank god we don't listen to Australians in this mod.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: owens on June 07, 2012, 03:34:24 am
The Flamberge is not all that unrealistic. It was areal weapon used by the swiss guard if I am not mistaken.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamberge

however this weapon doesn't look all that great and will just contribute to the amount of "dark" metal skins that are appearing. All of the new helmets and armour are darker in colour than the original warband ones this is silly looking. If the model could be retextured to a similar appearance to the other swords there is no reason it couldn't be implemented.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Black Wind on June 07, 2012, 03:44:47 am
Thank god we don't listen to Australians in this mod.

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Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Patoson on June 07, 2012, 03:53:38 am
I think it would be a great addition, but I would change all its animations to polearms' (like the flamberge's), due to its size, and maybe increase its speed a little to compensate.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: BD_SUPERBEAST on June 07, 2012, 08:46:10 am
Good to see someone wants to add a weapon with not badly balance in its stats. Looks cool, the thrust should be pole animation,maybe the overhead and the left swing too,and i think 1 or 2 more points in damage as well given the speed.(maybe 2 too much).

+1
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: owens on June 07, 2012, 10:29:28 am
^ I think the idea was a new 2H not polearm.


Its only 130 reach its still well within the 2H animation zone for swings.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Momo on June 07, 2012, 05:20:35 pm
The second one looks epicly brutal, want it.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 07, 2012, 05:26:08 pm
The second one looks epicly brutal, want it.
Both pics are of the same weapon, blind ass bitch.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Momo on June 07, 2012, 05:35:09 pm
Both pics are of the same weapon, blind ass bitch.

True story, I see it now XD. (And I even have glasses XDDD.)
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: LordBerenger on June 07, 2012, 05:37:02 pm
True story, I see it now XD. (And I even have glasses XDDD.)

Momo fail
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: yart on June 07, 2012, 06:38:01 pm
Very nice idea man  :shock:
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 07, 2012, 08:13:20 pm
^ I think the idea was a new 2H not polearm.


Its only 130 reach its still well within the 2H animation zone for swings.


What's 130 plus 80?  Ridiculous, that's what. 

Quote
2h
Overhead = +15
Left-to-right = +17
Right-to-left = +13
Thrust = +80
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Bjord on June 07, 2012, 11:40:57 pm
Those stats are bullshit but luckily we have no Asstralians on dev team so balancers will do an okay job. If they ever add that ugly model, that is.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 07, 2012, 11:43:49 pm
If that gets implemented its going to be the new popular GS for sure, those stats are ridiculous!
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: NikMac on June 09, 2012, 04:32:06 pm
If that gets implemented its going to be the new popular GS for sure, those stats are ridiculous!
I only suggested stats. Feel free to offer another  :wink:
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Bjord on June 09, 2012, 09:10:53 pm
From what I learned, the balance team don't care about suggestions for stats on items, they add stats they feel are balanced  or in some way non-obstrusive.

The length on that thing, combined with its cut damage, is gonna make everyone cry.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Lange on June 09, 2012, 11:21:58 pm
The length will be half the problem if they just give it a polestab. It would look ridiculous otherwise anyway. And they did a similar thing to the Langes Messer just out of spite. As for everything else, 3 Speed seem like a harsh price for 6 length already.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Duc_OLIVIERO_loliv on June 10, 2012, 04:07:12 am
nice +1
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: NikMac on June 12, 2012, 08:06:49 pm
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Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: NikMac on June 14, 2012, 03:59:28 am
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Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: owens on June 14, 2012, 04:06:03 am
It is only 6 reach.


Get a grip.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: To Kill A Dead Horse on June 14, 2012, 04:22:28 am
I suggest we add throwable mauls to the game, hell i did it for a mod of mine.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: NikMac on June 15, 2012, 03:28:31 pm
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Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 15, 2012, 03:34:27 pm
Your sword would be the best 2h in the game..there's plenty of 2h's for you to choose from.  Carry on.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: TurmoilTom on June 16, 2012, 04:19:40 pm
Looks nice. Even if the stats in the op aren't applied I still think it's a fabulous weapon model and should be added.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: NikMac on June 18, 2012, 02:07:43 pm
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Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Patoson on June 18, 2012, 02:27:42 pm
Your sword would be the best 2h in the game..there's plenty of 2h's for you to choose from.  Carry on.

The fact is the only good looking 2h are the Danish greatsword, the German greatsword, the Highland Claymore and the Longsword. The rest are very ugly.

If you don't want to add such a nice sword, then make someone remodel the ugly swords we already have.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: marco1391 on June 18, 2012, 02:44:12 pm
yes to the idea, no to the stats, it would be simply op with the lolstab(unless it gets the same thrust animation as the flamberge)
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: autobus on June 18, 2012, 05:29:36 pm
1008 faces without sheath, 3 LOD's. 970 faces in sheath, 2 LOD's.

bad.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 18, 2012, 06:59:45 pm
The fact is the only good looking 2h are the Danish greatsword, the German greatsword, the Highland Claymore and the Longsword. The rest are very ugly.

If you don't want to add such a nice sword, then make someone remodel the ugly swords we already have.

The Two handed sword is also one of the best looking 2h's imo, simple yet elegant.