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Title: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: autobus on June 04, 2012, 07:18:21 am
01/06/2012 05:15 Crusader Alliance VS Reyvadin
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=3336
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Iron_Legion K/D:
11 kills 193 deaths.

02/06/2012 07:03 Crusader Alliance VS Reyvadin
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Iron_Legion K/D:
19 kills 116 deaths

also:
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03/06/2012 07:04 CHAOS VS Radoghir Castle

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Iron_Legion K/D:
24 kills 164 deaths

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Lib K/D:
11 kills 75 deaths

I've noticed the last guy Rebornknight33_Lib was spawning with bow and weapon and rushing into fight.
(click to show/hide)

and P90champion suicide jumping from the walls.
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Iron_Legion totals:
54 kills 473 deaths

Lib totals:
18 kills 136 deaths




Yeah guys i do really understand that you are sabotaging AI plain bad and waste equipment on purpose have wicked playstyles like rushing into fight with bow and onehander and superman jumping from high wall to slash broken ladder, but hey at least have decency to ask better players to teach you how to play.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Blackzilla on June 04, 2012, 07:37:12 am
Thats why we don't hire them for battles! They may be griefing or just extremely bad!
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: T_Grellenort on June 04, 2012, 08:25:53 am
Attack early in the morning. Even using this. The tactic of cowards.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Lotr_III on June 04, 2012, 08:28:06 am
ban them for 30 days, they only waste tickets of NEUTRAl castle .
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Anhy on June 04, 2012, 10:18:36 am
i think, need permanent ban.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Slamz on June 04, 2012, 10:21:54 am
If I took the time to go to every battle with FRAPS, I could get one person banned every time, pretty much guaranteed.

Admins do join these battles but they are fighting, not admin'ing.  If you wait 30 minutes into the fight, look for people with low KDR (or people who reconnect a lot to hide their KDR) and follow them, it's easy to find ban material.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: zDevilBox on June 04, 2012, 10:39:49 am
They are just noobs  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Visconti on June 04, 2012, 10:50:12 am
Perhaps they are just very...very... VERY bad/new? I also always thought that Iron legion was an EU clan
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Canary on June 04, 2012, 10:51:01 am
I've literally never seen these people on NA_1 or 2.

If NA needs to teach them to play, it's because they're not learning from the EU servers.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Bjarky on June 04, 2012, 11:02:57 am
they do have NA ping, so....  :P
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: autobus on June 04, 2012, 11:09:59 am
Quote from: Visconti on June 04, 2012, 10:50:12 am
Perhaps they are just very...very... VERY bad/new? I also always thought that Iron legion was an EU clan

Nah they are actually NA.
At least their pings were below 80
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 04, 2012, 11:15:11 am
Sucking isn't banable. AI fiefs are there for the express purpose of being curshed and having the rodents driven into the sea.

I too have never seen these guys on NA battle/siege.

Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Nebun on June 04, 2012, 11:34:39 am
Quote from: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 04, 2012, 11:15:11 am
Sucking isn't banable. AI fiefs are there for the express purpose of being curshed and having the rodents driven into the sea.

I too have never seen these guys on NA battle/siege.

sucking isn't but what if they are friends and just wasting equipment :) so that attackers could easily take it. Why eu players defending NA fiefs play way better then those Iron Legion.
In one of the castle battles, allies of attacker that was signed for defense was jumping off the wall in one spot, and their bodies was next to each other and they was doing it through all siege :)
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: okiN on June 04, 2012, 12:16:47 pm
Take pics, post ban requests.

It's up to NA admins to monitor NA sieges, but if no-one's there then just post threads on the forum.

You can't expect admins who are actually taking part in the battles to do anything, though, because it's impossible for them to spectate. You should try to get a free one from IRC or something.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Herkkutatti on June 04, 2012, 12:29:48 pm
 :twisted:
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Dark_Blade on June 04, 2012, 12:30:28 pm
Quote from: Kikimoure on June 04, 2012, 07:18:21 am
01/06/2012 05:15 Crusader Alliance VS Reyvadin
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=3336
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Iron_Legion K/D:
11 kills 193 deaths.

02/06/2012 07:03 Crusader Alliance VS Reyvadin
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=3356
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Iron_Legion K/D:
19 kills 116 deaths

also:
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03/06/2012 07:04 CHAOS VS Radoghir Castle

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Iron_Legion K/D:
24 kills 164 deaths

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Lib K/D:
11 kills 75 deaths

I've noticed the last guy Rebornknight33_Lib was spawning with bow and weapon and rushing into fight.
(click to show/hide)

and P90champion suicide jumping from the walls.
(click to show/hide)

Iron_Legion totals:
54 kills 473 deaths

Lib totals:
18 kills 136 deaths




Yeah guys i do really understand that you are sabotaging AI plain bad and waste equipment on purpose have wicked playstyles like rushing into fight with bow and onehander and superman jumping from high wall to slash broken ladder, but hey at least have decency to ask better players to teach you how to play.
they are not realy bad like  on this pics D: I am wonder...mostly they have score like 1/1 k/d or a bit less...
Quote from: Visconti on June 04, 2012, 10:50:12 am
Perhaps they are just very...very... VERY bad/new? I also always thought that Iron legion was an EU clan
EU and NA Iron Legiones are different ones
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Kazak on June 04, 2012, 04:43:43 pm
Quote from: Anhy on June 04, 2012, 10:18:36 am
i think, need permanent ban.
Agreed, but not perma ban. Ban for a week will be enough IMO.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Slamz on June 04, 2012, 09:57:46 pm
At the very least, I think the "performance" stat for strat should be graded on more of a curve and maybe 1-100 rather than 1-10.

My performance in strat is a "3" which means someone that's 1 and 64 could only possibly be two points lower than me despite being almost infinitely worse than I am.

1 and 64 should give you a performance rating pretty close to "1 out of 100" and the AI should only pick up people like that if there's literally nobody else applying.  A level 1 noob should be preferred over a level 30 with a performance that low.

Honestly I'm pretty bad at strat battles but even I know when it's time to stop trying to fight on the front lines and time to start doing some ladders or go find a crossbow or something.  (I also blame my performance on the general lack of throwing weapons in people's armies...)



So basically the solution to these people is already there -- chadz (or someone) just needs to tweak it.  Reliability should count more than performance in general but if your performance REALLY sucks then it should overpower your reliability.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Turboflex on June 04, 2012, 10:13:00 pm
The admins certainly should check them out to make sure they're not phony accounts, but it's quite possible they're just bad/idiots and not saboteurs.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Kazak on June 10, 2012, 12:45:54 pm
Looks like admins dont care
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 11, 2012, 05:27:31 pm
Admins DO care. but they need more proof than a k:d screenshot.  If someone is suicide jumping, that's certainly bannable.  If people are zerg rushing like idiots, they should be warned and banned if it continues. 

You just need a little proof is all.  And there are instances where defenders "sallying" out is a valid tactic.  Taking down siege equipment or ladders is very important for the defense.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: RibaldRon on June 11, 2012, 11:56:11 pm
The scoreboard in-game could have been -50/64 which probably would have been bannable just by that screenshot but I don't think the suicide -1 points show up at the end report.


E: Also, we can't exactly pick who gets to fight for these sieges, the AI is pretty stupid about signing people up for them.  In addition, the equipment is usually pretty terrible.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Tibe on June 13, 2012, 11:39:39 am
Iron Legion? Sweet, the old clanname I made with buddies got stolen/reused/recycled whatever.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Elindor on June 13, 2012, 08:53:56 pm
Im confused....

Is this an issue?  Just don't hire them.
As for them signing up for neutral castle's and stuff....not sure what to tell you there :(

Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: joseklos on June 14, 2012, 04:43:42 am
you know, it isn't easy to fight in a really crowded wall with all the lagging my pc makes sometimes.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Tibe on June 15, 2012, 12:26:16 pm
Quote
Perhaps they are just very...very... VERY bad/new? I also always thought that Iron legion was an EU clan

Iron Legion WAS a EU clan. But we dispanded, so someone else made a Iron Legion clan too but only in NA. The name just got recycled by someone else.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Xarcenian on June 16, 2012, 03:21:52 pm
I am Ultim and We werent aware of the Name thing, but I will admit I wasnt doing to well, as for the others i dont know why they were dieing, I was running a slow computer which i have a better one and am now doing fine, I was getting teamkilled and also having my teamates break ladders from under me when i was moving from one tower to another or getting on top of one because i am an archer. If you dont remeber they had started spawnkilling us during that battle so there was no  way i would have made a comeback from going 6- (20-25 ish) to 64 after dieing repeatedly and after the spawnkilling stopped the same thing happened again, but even then i was still doing better than some others.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: autobus on June 17, 2012, 01:35:18 pm
there were no spawnkilling in any of those battles iirc
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Aderyn on June 19, 2012, 03:26:47 pm
being bad isn't a bannable offence

/thread.
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on June 19, 2012, 03:40:18 pm
Quote from: Aderyn on June 19, 2012, 03:26:47 pm
being bad isn't a bannable offence

/thread.
it should be :D
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Xarcenian on June 21, 2012, 08:27:05 am
Not if it relates to having a slow computer (I have a better one now :D)
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: Zaren on June 21, 2012, 08:48:39 am
Quote from: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 04, 2012, 11:15:11 am
Sucking isn't banable.
it should be  :twisted:
Title: Re: NA needs to teach their players to defend [totally not ban request at all]
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 21, 2012, 09:25:50 am
Quote from: blacktiger28 on June 21, 2012, 08:48:39 am
it should be  :twisted:

*ahem!* Need I remind you of an incident in which you jammed my second last csite during a strat battle? NEED I SIR! REMIND VERILY I SAY!