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Title: Hybrid cav/footman build
Post by: Roran Hawkins on June 01, 2012, 09:32:54 pm
Next gen I'm going hybrid cav(lancer/bumpslash)/footman(1h/poles), but there are 3 build between which I cannot choose.

Strength:
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Hit points: 62
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 3
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 5
Athletics: 4
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 145/140
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 34/63
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1



Balanced:
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 57
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 2
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 149
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 64
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1


Agility:
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 15
Agility: 21
Hit points: 50
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 6
Athletics: 6
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 150
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 92
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
 
Title: Re: Hybrid cav/footman build
Post by: TurmoilTom on June 01, 2012, 10:14:10 pm
1. Always max out Athletics and Riding. Points in Ironflesh and Weapon Master are not nearly worth the extra maneuver and speed.

2. Weapon Proficiency is by no means a necessity. For a 1h/lancer cav hybrid I'd go for a 120 1h / 100 pole wpf split max. Personally I would go for a 100 1h / 55 pole wpf split with 0 WM. Those points are better spent elsewhere.

Also, shoot for 18/18. Courser cav ftw.
Title: Re: Hybrid cav/footman build
Post by: Digglez on June 01, 2012, 10:17:28 pm
Adjusted your STR build

Strength:
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Hit points: 62
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 3
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 4
Athletics: 5
Riding: 5
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 134
Polearm: 80


Take a point from shield and max athletics.  If you are dehorsed, you will likely be behind enemy lines and need to escape, speed is more important than 1 point in shield.  You can still use good knightly shield line with 4 points.

I dont know the tiers for WPF that well, but something around 75-85 the cost goes up again, you should get at least that much in polearms or you arent going to be 1shotting people with lance.

Btw I'm 18gen shielder with about 10 of those with 1h cav.
Title: Re: Hybrid cav/footman build
Post by: Roran Hawkins on June 01, 2012, 10:46:33 pm
I'm going to be primarily a 1h'er though, especially on foot. To be a decent 1h'er you need good wpf to do good damage and have a nice speed.


Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Hit points: 60
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 2
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 134
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 80
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1


This?
Title: Re: Hybrid cav/footman build
Post by: TurmoilTom on June 01, 2012, 10:50:28 pm
That build looks solid, but I urge you to reconsider your WPF arrangement. I have a 12/27 build (rocking 4 power strike) and I do just fine with 100 1h WPF.
Title: Re: Hybrid cav/footman build
Post by: Roran Hawkins on June 01, 2012, 10:58:58 pm
I'm planning on taking quite some armour (cos that armour looks stylish) and I'm wanting at least ~100 effective 1h prof with the heaviest armour I'll ever wear.
Title: Re: Hybrid cav/footman build
Post by: TurmoilTom on June 01, 2012, 11:00:17 pm
If you say so.

Back in my 2h days I could do just fine with around 90 wpf and full plate, but it's your decision.
Title: Re: Hybrid cav/footman build
Post by: Roran Hawkins on June 01, 2012, 11:01:47 pm
The polearm is just for lancing and anti-cav purposes, and for when I occasionally pick up a strong polearm and decide to give it a swing.
Title: Re: Hybrid cav/footman build
Post by: Zanze on June 02, 2012, 01:07:28 am
Max out IF, Shield, Riding, Ath. Put remainder in WM. Put everything of that into 1h.

With the 21/15 build ofc. You'll be golden that way.
Title: Re: Hybrid cav/footman build
Post by: Smoothrich on June 02, 2012, 01:10:35 am
use 3 WM, you get like 110 1hand wpf and 80 polearm, also get 5 IF, 4 shield
Title: Re: Hybrid cav/footman build
Post by: Vingnir the Wanderer on June 02, 2012, 01:38:09 am
I'm 7th gen lancer cav/1h/shield hybrid...

I  thought the same thing, until I tested - listen to the veterans above, they know what they are talking about.

I only have 1 wpf,  with 91 1h and 82 pole, at lvl 30

And I do better than when I had the build with more wpf like your proposing.

Try it atleast, if you have several generations left before you want to permanently stop  retiring.

I'm str 24 though, you may need a bit more in pole if you have less str, and want to continue to one shot people to the head from horseback...
Title: Re: Hybrid cav/footman build
Post by: Roran Hawkins on June 02, 2012, 12:35:08 pm
Max out IF, Shield, Riding, Ath. Put remainder in WM. Put everything of that into 1h.

With the 21/15 build ofc. You'll be golden that way.
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Hit points: 70
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 7
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 114
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1



use 3 WM, you get like 110 1hand wpf and 80 polearm, also get 5 IF, 4 shield
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Hit points: 66
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 4
Athletics: 5
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 3
One Handed: 110
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 89
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1


Hmm, they sound nice... But I'll plan on using heavy armour, so my prof will drop. A lot. Heraldic transitional, althoguh I'll use heraldic surcoat most of the time. The second build looks nice though.



Changed the second a bit:
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Hit points: 64
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 4
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 4
Athletics: 5
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 4
One Handed: 120
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 89
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1