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Title: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Glando on May 30, 2012, 07:39:51 pm
Hi, I have been searching through the forums for a good archer 2 hander build.

Could anyone point me in the right direction for one with strength of 21 so I could get power Draw 7.

Also what would I be better off looming, the bow or the arrows?

Any help, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: LordBerenger on May 30, 2012, 07:47:23 pm
Hi, I have been searching through the forums for a good archer 2 hander build.

Could anyone point me in the right direction for one with strength of 21 so I could get power Draw 7.

Also what would I be better off looming, the bow or the arrows?

Any help, much appreciated.

Loom bow first.

And go Horn Bow + 2 Stacks of bodkin arrows and 1 langes messer which you can use just fine in 2h mode.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Glando on May 30, 2012, 07:49:08 pm
Thanks for the help, any idea on the build please as im completely new to archer.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: BlindGuy on May 30, 2012, 07:52:36 pm
18/18 is only way to go archer/2hander.

take:

6 each of: Weapon master, powerstrike, powerdraw, athletics AND 5 ironflesh. 150 archery/50 2handed, then weapons is up to you, I would recommend longbow with +3 arrows so you got 27 ammo to kill ponies, and a langes messer or mace to spam shielders into submission.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: LordBerenger on May 30, 2012, 07:54:49 pm
18/18 is only way to go archer/2hander.

take:

6 each of: Weapon master, powerstrike, powerdraw, athletics AND 5 ironflesh. 150 archery/50 2handed, then weapons is up to you, I would recommend longbow with +3 arrows so you got 27 ammo to kill ponies, and a langes messer or mace to spam shielders into submission.

A Longbow takes up 2 slots and langes 1 and 2 quivers of bodkins = 5 slots. Doesn't work.

And 17 arrows are too little. And taking anything else than Bodkins = Shamefur dispray


Get 18/21 build Glando.

You need extra ath to kite away from melee. Although...you said you want a hybrid so 18/18 is probably good as Blindguy said
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Adamar on May 30, 2012, 08:01:37 pm
18/21 hornbow(possibly the best/most ballanced bow + 1 slot), 1 bag of arrows if you're going with a 2hander and if you are going to be 2 hander half the time, 1 bag of bodkins should be more than enought.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Christo on May 30, 2012, 08:03:46 pm
Use 1slot 2hander weapons.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Glando on May 30, 2012, 08:12:24 pm
By the looks of it there is only 1 weapon that is 1 slot in 2 handers and that is a mace.I presume the Lang Messer is a 1 handed weapon.Which is better the mace or the lang messer for this build?

Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: LordBerenger on May 30, 2012, 08:23:55 pm
By the looks of it there is only 1 weapon that is 1 slot in 2 handers and that is a mace.I presume the Lang Messer is a 1 handed weapon.Which is better the mace or the lang messer for this build?

Take the Langes Messer.

Everyone and their mom uses Mace as my old friendcher. Go Langes Messer. It's in 1h weapon category but got 2h mode which uses both hands. It's like a mini longsword somewhat. With a different thrust animation.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Adamar on May 30, 2012, 08:24:55 pm
By the looks of it there is only 1 weapon that is 1 slot in 2 handers and that is a mace.I presume the Lang Messer is a 1 handed weapon.Which is better the mace or the lang messer for this build?

Mace, but you'll be like any other archer and not a proper 2hander.

There's also the fighting axe, which is better than the langes messer for the shield-busting ability. Still, mace is better.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Boerenlater on May 30, 2012, 08:25:32 pm
Cudgel also has 2h mode/
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Glando on May 30, 2012, 08:28:35 pm
Thanks for all the help, I take it I would still need the 2 hander wpf for the lang messer?

Does anyone have a link to a 18/21 build recommended several times in this thread?
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Christo on May 30, 2012, 08:33:27 pm
I take it I would still need the 2 hander wpf for the lang messer?

Yes, but it will only get used if you have alternate mode selected, of course.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Leshma on May 30, 2012, 08:35:05 pm
Make a pure archer, until Paul decide to fix hybrid archers.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Glando on May 30, 2012, 08:37:38 pm
Does anyone have a link to a 18/21 build recommended in this thread?
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: sF_Guardian on May 30, 2012, 08:41:31 pm
Does anyone have a link to a 18/21 build recommended in this thread?
nope, but i can tell you:

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 53

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 3
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 6
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 163
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: LordBerenger on May 30, 2012, 08:43:51 pm
Does anyone have a link to a 18/21 build recommended in this thread?

18 STR   21 AGI

Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 0
Athletics: 7
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 6
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 5

One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 148
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1


All WPF into Archery or you'll suck. And decide whether you want 6 WM or 5 and if so either 4 or 5 PS.

Preferably 5 PS as 4 will glance alot since it's not a Mace with blunt dmg but a cut weapon.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Miley on May 30, 2012, 08:46:27 pm
7 Power Draw? I don't know how you'll have enough WPF in both. But if you insist, then do 21/18. I do fine with 137 WPF in Archery on my 8 Power Draw archer, so if you have around that should be good; then you can put the rest of the WPF points into 2h. I use up to a Long Bow on that archer and do well, so you should try it, I think.

If you want to try something different instead. Use 6 Power Draw, and try 18/21. 6 Power Draw, 6 Athletics, 7 Weapon Master, and 4 Power Strike. It may hit a little low in melee, but if you get a real two-hander and like a Strong (Horn) Bow, you should get kills if you're any good. It also works with a War/Long (Rus/Long) Bow and a Mace, Langes Messer, or Fighting Axe. I'd get 150 Archery WPF, and that leaves you with 87 2h WPF.

Also, heirloom the bow first, or if you plan on retiring multiple times, you MAY want to heirloom your arrows once and then get your bow to Masterwork, just so you have extra arrows.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Glando on May 30, 2012, 08:47:59 pm
Thanks, I thought I would need at least 50 points wpf in 2 hander if im using that aswell.

Wont I be thoroughly useless with 2 hander with 0 wpf ?
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Miley on May 30, 2012, 08:49:04 pm
Thanks, I thought I would need at least 50 point wpf in 2 hander if im using that aswell.Wont I be thoroughly useless with 2 hander with 0 wpf ?

In my opinion, two-hander is the slowest out of the three melees without any WPF. You should definitely get WPF in 2h.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: LordBerenger on May 30, 2012, 08:49:30 pm
Thanks, I thought I would need at least 50 point wpf in 2 hander if im using that aswell.Wont I be thoroughly useless with 2 hander with 0 wpf ?

You'll be useless with a 2hander even with less than 100 WPF and that's MINIMUM at its best.

You can't spam good but atleast with 5 PS you'll do decent dmg with Langes as well as able to defend yourself in melee.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Glando on May 30, 2012, 08:59:14 pm
Cheers again for the info.Just out of interest Berenger, have you tried this build ingame m8?
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Miley on May 30, 2012, 09:03:27 pm
You are NOT useless without 100+ WPF in 2h. The second build works VERY well, and the first I have not tried.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: BlindGuy on May 30, 2012, 09:04:06 pm
Does anyone have a link to a 18/21 build recommended in this thread?


Erm....


18 STR
21 Agi


7 WM
7 Ath
6 PD
3 IF/PS depending what your after.

But this wont make you a hybrid, will just make you a kiting twat.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Adamar on May 30, 2012, 09:07:44 pm
More power strike, less athlectics.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Arrowblood on May 30, 2012, 09:13:20 pm
More power strike, less athlectics.
5 ps and 5 athletics.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Miley on May 30, 2012, 09:13:54 pm
18/21. 6 Power Draw, 6 Athletics, 7 Weapon Master, and 4 Power Strike.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Glando on May 30, 2012, 09:16:15 pm
Cheers again for all the help, although I now have to choose between 3 or 4 builds in this thread.Is it true you should have 1 more PD than the bow's difficulty or am I ok having a requirement 6 bow and 6 PD?
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Miley on May 30, 2012, 09:41:28 pm
You're ok having the requirement.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Dach on May 31, 2012, 03:25:02 am
Or you can go for kinda the same as my ultimate strat build! Just switch polearm for 2h.  8-)

Lvl 32

STR: 21
AGI: 18

IF: 3
PS: 7
AT: 6
PD: 7
WM: 6

Archery: 140
Polearm: 92
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Rumblood on May 31, 2012, 06:59:52 am
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,6333.0.html (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,6333.0.html)
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Riddaren on May 31, 2012, 08:29:05 am
21/18
7ps
7pd
6wm
3at

Works quite well. If you use only clothes you will run fast enough.
People don't expect an archer to have 7ps, which will be your special weapon against the enemy.

I would put all but 50 (or possible 0) into archery.

24/15
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Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: BD_SUPERBEAST on May 31, 2012, 08:57:14 am
On my archer alt im trying 21 18

At the moment its 20 18,and its much easier to kill anything in melee than with the horn bow but here it goes the build:

lvl 31 :

7 ps 7 pd 6wm 6 ath

143 wpf in archery the rest which i think its 78 goes to 2h, 1h fighting axe in 2h mode,or go langes messer or mace,whatever u feel it fits u. Probably u can get away with less wpf on 2h anyway,but ull pay for the melee weapon a lot.

Its kinda squishy,cause no if and u have to use low armor to be able to shoot anything over mid range,so u get one mistake or maybe 2 at the most.

Maybe 18 18 would work better cause of the survivality thing ,but with with unloomed horn u wont kill too much unless u headhost a lot.
Title: Re: Archer/ 2 Hander Build?
Post by: Glando on June 01, 2012, 10:23:02 pm
Cheers for all the help here, much appreciated!