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Title: Clan removed
Post by: Nebun on May 30, 2012, 07:10:50 pm
we created clan X1 played through the day with new banner and at some point it got removed, no one with rank 10 did this and no one even know how to remove the clan

is there any way to fix it?
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: krampe on May 30, 2012, 07:15:05 pm
I think the whole Clan ladder thingie is taken offline at the moment.
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: chadz on May 30, 2012, 07:26:33 pm
I had a quick look - looks like our exploitation tool, the customiseable hierarchical automated detection zystem has triggered this. Any idea why?
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Vovka on May 30, 2012, 07:32:57 pm
i think system is broken  :P
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Nebun on May 30, 2012, 07:34:14 pm
is this because we want to play with Grey Order in one CRPG clan? :))

would it also be removed if all clans just join into one under one tag?
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: chadz on May 30, 2012, 07:34:58 pm
It's zystem. Zystem.
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Vovka on May 30, 2012, 07:36:36 pm
plz fix the zystem!
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Teeth on May 30, 2012, 07:37:16 pm
Cheers to the zystem!
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Nebun on May 30, 2012, 07:39:47 pm
plz chadz let us know how the zystem work so we don't have clan removed every time, to know what we allowed to do and what not

was the banner to shit,
was it because few clans play under one banner
was it Vovka:)
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: _RXN_ on May 30, 2012, 07:42:47 pm
But but the zystem multiplied other clan by two :D

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Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Segd on May 30, 2012, 10:10:07 pm
We played with one banner before last patch(UIF + banner leechers), then played after the patch under one clan banner but without leechers, then our clan was banned.
==> chadzthe Zystem is one of the leechers!
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: dodnet on May 30, 2012, 10:23:43 pm
fuck the zystem!
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Penchik on May 30, 2012, 10:34:05 pm
This is ridiculous. First you introduce the exclusive banners to prevent banner leeching and then you forbid those banners.
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Kafein on May 30, 2012, 11:16:15 pm
Quote from: Penchik on May 30, 2012, 10:34:05 pm
This is ridiculous. First you introduce the exclusive banners to prevent banner leeching and then you forbid those banners.

The new clan banners make clan stacking easier and as anyone with a functioning right temporoparietal junction (it's a zone in the brain) can find out by themselves, stacking multiple clans to get constant x5 is wrong. Deal with it.

I know all the major clans in the UIF have a very good reputation and never exploited anything to get unfair advantages over other players. This is just a small error that will be soon forgotten, not because of it just adding up a long record of similar deeds, of course.
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Bulzur on May 30, 2012, 11:46:43 pm
What are you talkng about Kafein ?  :shock:

It's the Zystem. That's all.
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Segd on May 31, 2012, 01:53:48 am
Well I see 3 variants:
1)We are allowed to use 1 banner for multiple clans.
2)We could make one clan for real(the mighty UIF xD)
3)We will use 1 banner(from common bannerpack) as we do now
4)We all could be permabanned
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Spleen on May 31, 2012, 07:18:18 am
Quote from: chadz on May 30, 2012, 07:26:33 pm
customiseable hierarchical automated detection zystem

Obvious troll is obvious
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Vibe on May 31, 2012, 08:20:28 am
Quote from: Segd on May 31, 2012, 01:53:48 am
Well I see 3 variants:
1)We are allowed to use 1 banner for multiple clans. - it's not intended to be like that to prevent stacking
2)We could make one clan for real(the mighty UIF xD) - you probably could
3)We will use 1 banner(from common bannerpack) as we do now - you could, but you will not be banner balanced as well as having an exclusive banner (only 11%)
4)We all could be permabanned - you probably could
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Vovka on May 31, 2012, 08:31:35 am
Quote from: Vibe on May 31, 2012, 08:20:28 am
only 11%
what you mean?
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Vibe on May 31, 2012, 08:35:17 am
Quote from: Vovka on May 31, 2012, 08:31:35 am
what you mean?


Normal Banners are balanced together so long as the group under that banner does not exceed 11% of the levels on that team

Clan Banners are balanced together so long as the group under that banner does not exceed 33% of the levels on that team
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Vovka on May 31, 2012, 08:54:42 am
Quote from: Vibe on May 31, 2012, 08:35:17 am

Normal Banners are balanced together so long as the group under that banner does not exceed 11% of the levels on that team

Clan Banners are balanced together so long as the group under that banner does not exceed 33% of the levels on that team
oh kk thx
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Segd on May 31, 2012, 09:15:17 am
Is it a new feature? Cause few months ago we had almost full one bannered team few times.
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Gnjus on May 31, 2012, 09:30:51 am
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Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Vibe on May 31, 2012, 10:10:05 am
Quote from: Segd on May 31, 2012, 09:15:17 am
Is it a new feature? Cause few months ago we had almost full one bannered team few times.

Yes, it's new.
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Kalp on May 31, 2012, 10:22:12 am
Quote from: Gnjus on May 31, 2012, 09:30:51 am
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Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: BlackCorsair_RS on May 31, 2012, 11:17:28 am
similar problem with Runaway Scorpions,

i bought a slot for unique banner today, and when i tried to enter the clan in ladder to upload unique banner - i only saw white screen with - "Clan not found".
and clan was doubled in the clans list. so there are two Runaway Scorpions now.

btw, when it will be fixed? i payed gold to get unique banner for 30 days, and now what,  if zystem will be repaired only in next 30 days? :D

that would be dissapointing!

i think timers should be freezed till full repair of system
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Vovka on May 31, 2012, 11:29:12 am
Quote from: BlackCorsair_RS on May 31, 2012, 11:17:28 am
similar problem with Runaway Scorpions,

i bought a slot for unique banner today, and when i tried to enter the clan in ladder to upload unique banner - i only saw white screen with - "Clan not found".
and clan was doubled in the clans list. so there are two Runaway Scorpions now.

btw, when it will be fixed? i payed gold to get unique banner for 30 days, and now what,  if zystem will be repaired only in next 30 days? :D

that would be dissapointing!

i think timers should be freezed till full repair of system
two clan with same name in the roster means that your players have bought at least two banner slots)
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Vibe on May 31, 2012, 11:29:44 am
Quote from: BlackCorsair_RS on May 31, 2012, 11:17:28 am
similar problem with Runaway Scorpions,

i bought a slot for unique banner today, and when i tried to enter the clan in ladder to upload unique banner - i only saw white screen with - "Clan not found".
and clan was doubled in the clans list. so there are two Runaway Scorpions now.

btw, when it will be fixed? i payed gold to get unique banner for 30 days, and now what,  if zystem will be repaired only in next 30 days? :D

that would be dissapointing!

i think timers should be freezed till full repair of system

That's not the same case, that happens when you buy two banners.
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: BlackCorsair_RS on May 31, 2012, 12:33:21 pm
mmmmmm...  i dont think that we bought two banners, we have only 10 players in clan, and i doubt that one of them suddenly decided to spend his own gold to buy banner.

Anyway, even if players bought 2 banners, then what should be done to solve the problem that i can enter clan on site, and cant upload banner...
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Tomas on May 31, 2012, 01:27:00 pm
Quote from: BlackCorsair_RS on May 31, 2012, 11:17:28 am
similar problem with Runaway Scorpions,


Actually most of those Fallen members are alts. Kato alone has 10 alts + his main in the clan :D

Also it can't be the same as we have not triggered the zystem :D
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: BlackCorsair_RS on May 31, 2012, 01:30:47 pm
nah, all that i mean with word similar - that i also see "Clan was removed" instead of clan page.

dont be such pedantic...
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: dodnet on May 31, 2012, 02:00:27 pm
We should create ONE big clan with ONE banner and all join that. FUCK THE ZYSTEM!
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Christo on May 31, 2012, 02:51:18 pm
Quote from: Kafein on May 30, 2012, 11:16:15 pm
I know all the major clans in the UIF have a very good reputation and never exploited anything to get unfair advantages over other players.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: BlindGuy on May 31, 2012, 02:57:31 pm
Quote from: Kafein on May 30, 2012, 11:16:15 pm
I know all the major clans in the UIF have a very good reputation and never exploited anything to get unfair advantages over other players. This is just a small error that will be soon forgotten, not because of it just adding up a long record of similar deeds, of course.


I lol'ed, read thru thread, came back, read this again, lol'ed again. I have put your rossette for today's sarcasm award in the post, enjoy.
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Erasmas on May 31, 2012, 04:41:36 pm
I did not notice any sarcasm in that, although I was very surprised to hear see such true and honest words about UIF  :D

BTW:

I just wonder if the Zystem is customizable enough to adapt to reality :rolleyes: Or will the reality have to be stubborn enough to impress the Zystem with its persistence.  :wink:
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: polkafranzi on May 31, 2012, 04:56:16 pm
If you make a super clan, consisting of what I saw as 4 clans with lot's of members online (Grey, Drz, STR, Karluk?) and you play in an 80 man server (40 per side where you make up at least 25 places) and say for example there isn't a big clan online on the other team so it's just randomers AND you make this clan purely for the purpose of multiplier (lets be honest now, it always has been & always will - until they change the zystem)...then, as far as I can see, it's a bullshit to the general public who won't enjoy playing the mod and the end effect is lots of RQ's and general ill-feeling.

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: Penchik on June 01, 2012, 10:44:42 pm
Quote from: Kafein on May 30, 2012, 11:16:15 pm
The new clan banners make clan stacking easier and as anyone with a functioning right temporoparietal junction (it's a zone in the brain) can find out by themselves, stacking multiple clans to get constant x5 is wrong. Deal with it.
So, cooperation and teamplay is wrong and we must have a retarded right temporoparietal junction (it's a zone in the brain) if we find out by ourselves that uniting for being stronger together is also wrong.
Title: Re: Clan removed
Post by: BlackCorsair_RS on June 02, 2012, 10:19:00 am
Ladder button still give me "Clan not found"...


Anybody else still have it?