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Title: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 30, 2012, 06:31:07 am
We need a team of player's for USA in the nation's cup.  Depending on how many people sign up we'll have some sort of tournament for the amount of people we need for each class. 

The servers will be played on EU servers.  Anyone interested please add your name to the list

Here's a link to the cRPG nations cup (hosted by nditions)

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,32047.0.html

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Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on May 30, 2012, 09:04:59 am
ME add me because im bad at this game
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Muki on May 30, 2012, 09:11:28 am
what the rules and dates? but sign me up I guess
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Kelugarn on May 30, 2012, 10:16:20 am
Put me down as TEAM USA WIZARD.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: SittingBull on May 30, 2012, 11:05:20 am
According to the information on their thread, the rounds will only be played on EU servers. Sooo...
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Molly on May 30, 2012, 11:07:44 am
According to the information on their thread, the rounds will only be played on EU servers. Sooo...
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The servers will be played on EU servers.  Anyone interested please add your name to the list

Here's a link to the cRPG nations cup (hosted by nditions)

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,32047.0.html
o'rly?
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: SittingBull on May 30, 2012, 11:14:54 am
o'rly?

I'm srs right now.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on May 30, 2012, 02:05:50 pm
No.

Fuck you you nationalist swine. This is how WWII started.

We said "never again", god dammit.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: EyeBeat on May 30, 2012, 02:15:13 pm
Shouldn't the USA stay out of this till like the very last minute.... Then just clean house and saved everyone.  Like in WWII?
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: LordBerenger on May 30, 2012, 02:18:56 pm
US smart cuz trolled rest of Europe and they went against eachother and got tired and then US as smart as ever went into domination mode.


USA!
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on May 30, 2012, 09:21:13 pm
Well I know the euros are having this tourney but I know huesby and a couple other guys want an American tourney and will include those Canadians too of course but we should at Least have a team to dominate those euros or die trying
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: LordBerenger on May 30, 2012, 09:24:39 pm
Well I know the euros are having this tourney but I know huesby and a couple other guys want an American tourney and will include those Canadians too of course but we should at Least have a team to dominate those euros or die trying

What about Mexicans?
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: SixThumbs on May 30, 2012, 09:24:52 pm
This is going to end up like our soccer team.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 30, 2012, 09:25:39 pm
Yeah it would be cool to have a "states/provinces" cup for NA states and provinces to represent (might have to go by region if not enough from each state can be formed for a team).  But that will have to be down the road and likely won't happen before this EU Nations Cup. 

Tell your friends we need good NA players to sign up for our team (might allow some canadians to play with us :P)  Basically looking for any classes of players, but people who can fight with battle awareness and aren't lone ranger types (they'll get dominated in a team setting).
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on May 30, 2012, 10:14:19 pm
Yeah a NA tourney would be bestest but we need to focus on this Euro one right now.

I created a USA captain application thread so if you want to be Captain America then go post in it about how your best and what not. But remember the team captain is more of an administrative job deciding who to recruit to the team, who plays when and how many of certain classes to choose from. You wont be expected to lead the team in battle or coming up with tactics. Organizing and setting up shit and it may be for as long to weeks to months depending on how fa we go in the tourney.

Also post in their to help decide capt's and help us get an idea of who is interested in playing in the tourney
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Ubereem on May 31, 2012, 01:25:09 am
whats the point if were just gonna play on EU servers with shit ping? i will sign up but only if we play on NA servers.

alright fuk it ill just use my plated charger, sign me up: E_Turner

Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on May 31, 2012, 08:50:19 am
Point is that we're going in their to represent fucking MURICA..... aight? It may be a euro tourney on shitty ping but I'm not going to let that stop me from trying to win that nations cup so I can rub it their smug little faces.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Molly on May 31, 2012, 09:41:20 am
This is going to end up like our soccer team.
IT IS CALLED FOOTBALL! Heaven help... you can pretend as much as you want that carrying an egg with the HANDS is supposed to be called FOOTball but that just adds to the weirdness of you Amuricans!
Besides... an egg is by definition not a ball. A ball is supposed to be round... like... a ball...

Bah!
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Kayle on May 31, 2012, 09:50:45 am
Poor ameriscums think they can beat the home of the vikings and the warriors of IKEA. good luck, you will need it.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Rebelyell on May 31, 2012, 10:42:58 am
This is going to end up like our soccer team.

.....          

ah  that americans
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 31, 2012, 05:40:45 pm
At least we haven't been unnecessarily killing trees for hundreds of years with your extra vowels.

Valor (valour).  Honor.  Honour. 

I rest my case!
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Earthdforce on May 31, 2012, 06:05:33 pm
Uhhh I'll play! :D
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Vkvkvk on May 31, 2012, 07:27:02 pm
Point is that we're going in their to represent fucking MURICA..... aight? It may be a euro tourney on shitty ping but I'm not going to let that stop me from trying to win that nations cup so I can rub it their smug little faces.

Have fun getting killed because of ping with this very thinking and making them laugh at you with their smug little faces completely defeating the point you're trying to make.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Svitjodvarg on May 31, 2012, 07:32:37 pm
Ok americans who think they won WWII. on the western front. USA, GB, CANADA, ETC ETC were fighting about 30% of the german forces. in the eastern front Soviet Union ALONE were fighting about 70 % of the German forces also most of the elite divisions were sent to the eastern front. AND Soviet union took Berlin. and yeah sure USA sent supplies to the soviets. but its not like they were going to starve without it. btw i'm not a communist. i hate commies.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on May 31, 2012, 08:28:19 pm
Funny the brits were being bombed everyday from France until the US landed in France and pushed hem back with yes the support of other countries. But that was only after the US landed in africa pushing the axis powers out of northern Africa and heading north through Greece and Italy. Dont remember the socviets being a major factor in helping end the Japanese threat in the pacific. And to say the soviets fought 70% of the German forces is based off of what evidence? I don't deny the soviets were a big factor in defeating chocolate chip cookie Germany but it goes both ways. No way the soviets could of defeated the Germans without the US pushing in western front and from the south.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Svitjodvarg on May 31, 2012, 08:44:50 pm
lol Soviet also fought the Japanse who did you think fought the main Japanese army in china? and my sources is discovery, history channel, national geographic etc-
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: LordBerenger on May 31, 2012, 08:50:19 pm
Funny the brits were being bombed everyday from France until the US landed in France and pushed hem back with yes the support of other countries. But that was only after the US landed in africa pushing the axis powers out of northern Africa and heading north through Greece and Italy. Dont remember the socviets being a major factor in helping end the Japanese threat in the pacific. And to say the soviets fought 70% of the German forces is based off of what evidence? I don't deny the soviets were a big factor in defeating chocolate chip cookie Germany but it goes both ways. No way the soviets could of defeated the Germans without the US pushing in western front and from the south.

This! The Brits were ready to crumble and Communists were taking heavy blows. Had US cooperated with Japan and Germany and traded oil with em as Japs wanted you bet your ass the commis wouldn't be able to beat chocolate chip cookie Germany.

Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Miley on May 31, 2012, 08:54:24 pm
I guess sign me up. So is Canada and USA going to have different teams? If ManOfWar and other really east coast players sign up, they have like 90s ping and can basically play anywhere (NA and EU)... just saying.

Sign Allers up also.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on May 31, 2012, 09:08:15 pm
I'd love to have Mano come and play but like I said earlier Canada is another nation and I saw that Arowaine has a Canadian team but it was specified as a French Canadian team. So he may join that team but If he doesn't and we need players I'll definitely pick him up since no one is challenging me for US captain position.

I'll add you to my list and Allers as well. Just curious what builds are both of you right now so I have an idea what other players I'll need.

Edit: I'm checking all the threads and keep adding to my list of ppl who are interested in joining. Dont worry jar I got you bro.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Swifteye234 on May 31, 2012, 09:40:23 pm
I said it in the first thread sign me up
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Shadowren on May 31, 2012, 09:51:26 pm
Ill sign up  8-)
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Dan lol on May 31, 2012, 09:55:07 pm
I'd love to have Mano come and play but like I said earlier Canada is another nation and I saw that Arowaine has a Canadian team but it was specified as a French Canadian team. So he may join that team but If he doesn't and we need players I'll definitely pick him up since no one is challenging me for US captain position.

I'll add you to my list and Allers as well. Just curious what builds are both of you right now so I have an idea what other players I'll need.

Edit: I'm checking all the threads and keep adding to my list of ppl who are interested in joining. Dont worry jar I got you bro.

mano is from jersey, and although jersey sucks its still not canada
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on May 31, 2012, 10:05:40 pm
@shadow good to have you!

Oh sorry I thought Mano was Canadain but if he's amurican than he can def be part of this. I'm just trying to keep this in the US and not steal the Canadian playerbase is all and now that I have a list were still short of our 16 but over the 10 required. Don't let that discourage you this isn't final and even if we go over 16 applicants you will still have a chance to be a part of the team! So Apply apply apply!
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Swifteye234 on May 31, 2012, 10:09:37 pm
Love you jar thanks for applying
no probs
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Smoothrich on May 31, 2012, 10:34:55 pm
Have fun getting killed because of ping with this very thinking and making them laugh at you with their smug little faces completely defeating the point you're trying to make.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ3fW1BxIRY
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Swifteye234 on May 31, 2012, 10:41:39 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ3fW1BxIRY
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Bjord on May 31, 2012, 10:45:25 pm
Hope you can gather enough players, Sweden was looking for target practice as a matter of fact!
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Teeth on May 31, 2012, 10:46:01 pm
Dont remember the socviets being a major factor in helping end the Japanese threat in the pacific.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria_(1945)

Sometimes described as a textbook example of a perfect invasion.

And to say the soviets fought 70% of the German forces is based off of what evidence?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_II)#Forces

No way the soviets could of defeated the Germans without the US pushing in western front and from the south.
Not so sure of that.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Bjord on May 31, 2012, 10:54:21 pm
Spanish, you sound like the average Maerican. Low education and zeka fakiri.

Also you just got splerglorded by Teeth. :lol:
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Teeth on May 31, 2012, 10:55:49 pm
When it comes to ignorant, self obsessed Americans, I just have to.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Bjord on May 31, 2012, 10:58:06 pm
They're like flies. They buzz and buzz and buzz some more until you go into rage mode and fetch the swatter.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Miley on May 31, 2012, 11:29:14 pm
I'd love to have Mano come and play but like I said earlier Canada is another nation and I saw that Arowaine has a Canadian team but it was specified as a French Canadian team. So he may join that team but If he doesn't and we need players I'll definitely pick him up since no one is challenging me for US captain position.

I'll add you to my list and Allers as well. Just curious what builds are both of you right now so I have an idea what other players I'll need.

Edit: I'm checking all the threads and keep adding to my list of ppl who are interested in joining. Dont worry jar I got you bro.

Wait, how did you become captain? And I shall PM you my build. I am from Canada, but I live in USA... so...
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Svitjodvarg on June 01, 2012, 02:48:08 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria_(1945)

Sometimes described as a textbook example of a perfect invasion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_II)#Forces
Not so sure of that.

Your relation with DeGothia has increased with +20!

wow even 80% of the forces were on the eastern front! :D
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on June 01, 2012, 03:00:45 am
When it comes to ignorant, self obsessed Americans, I just have to.

Thats just rude. I did not insult you or your country and I never said the Soviets were not important in the war effort against chocolate chip cookie Germany. But honestly the soviets could not have defeated the chocolate chip cookie by themselves when they had 8.8 to 10.7 million casualties not even fighting the entire German forces. And the US fought at least 40% since they didn't land in France until 1944 and took us a year to get to Berlin while the soviets took 4 years and they only beat the US by what a week? Then they're is also the fact that if the US had not taken part in fighting Germany. Britain would have fallen and the Soviets were geared up to possibly win a conventional war but the Germans were very close to developing nuclear weapons (According to the Documentary I saw) The Germans were around 6 months away from developing nukes when they arrived in Berlin which isn't long at all if they hadn't had pressure from US.

As for the invasion of Japanese occupied Manchuria by the soviets happened on 9 August 1945 and japans surrender was on August 15 of 1945 even though it didn't happen ceremonially until Sept 2. That shows how key the soviets were in the war against Japan. But in any case get outa my thread! I have stuff to organize
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: okiN on June 01, 2012, 03:19:15 am
I don't deny the soviets were a big factor in defeating chocolate chip cookie Germany but it goes both ways. No way the soviets could of defeated the Germans without the US pushing in western front and from the south.
This! The Brits were ready to crumble and Communists were taking heavy blows. Had US cooperated with Japan and Germany and traded oil with em as Japs wanted you bet your ass the commis wouldn't be able to beat chocolate chip cookie Germany.

The funny part is that this is what Americans actually believe. The myth-building is almost desperate. The fact is, the Germans were already on the run in the East long before D-day (Stalingrad, Kursk, ring any bells?), with the Red Army constantly growing stronger. The American invasion just hastened the inevitable German collapse.

It's not like the US took North Africa alone, either. Rommel was beaten by the British.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on June 01, 2012, 03:26:01 am
Okay I dont care if you bash on us amuricans but move it out of my thread thank you very much. This is intended for NA sign ups for Eu tourney. KTHANKS BAIII
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: okiN on June 01, 2012, 03:31:09 am
Hey, you guys started it. And seriously, you can't say silly shit like "the US only took one year to reach Berlin, the Soviets took four" and expect to get away with it when the only reason the Americans were able to reach Berlin in the first place is exactly because the Russians (and everyone else, but especially the Russians) had already been fighting Germany for years before the US glory hounds even made it across the ocean. Come on, son, step it up. :P
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Svitjodvarg on June 01, 2012, 03:35:13 am
Hey, you guys started it. And seriously, you can't say silly shit like "the US only took one year to reach Berlin, the Soviets took four" and expect to get away with it when the only reason the Americans were able to reach Berlin in the first place is exactly because the Russians (and everyone else, but especially the Russians) had already been fighting Germany for years before the US glory hounds even made it across the ocean. Come on, son, step it up. :P

+1
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Svitjodvarg on June 01, 2012, 03:37:57 am
Thats just rude. I did not insult you or your country and I never said the Soviets were not important in the war effort against chocolate chip cookie Germany. But honestly the soviets could not have defeated the chocolate chip cookie by themselves when they had 8.8 to 10.7 million casualties not even fighting the entire German forces. And the US fought at least 40% since they didn't land in France until 1944 and took us a year to get to Berlin while the soviets took 4 years and they only beat the US by what a week? Then they're is also the fact that if the US had not taken part in fighting Germany. Britain would have fallen and the Soviets were geared up to possibly win a conventional war but the Germans were very close to developing nuclear weapons (According to the Documentary I saw) The Germans were around 6 months away from developing nukes when they arrived in Berlin which isn't long at all if they hadn't had pressure from US.

As for the invasion of Japanese occupied Manchuria by the soviets happened on 9 August 1945 and japans surrender was on August 15 of 1945 even though it didn't happen ceremonially until Sept 2. That shows how key the soviets were in the war against Japan. But in any case get outa my thread! I have stuff to organize

Western front 20% of german forces. and as for the Russians in china they advanced quickly and completely destroyed the Japanese army, hundreds of thousands of PoW's
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: rustyspoon on June 01, 2012, 04:13:34 am
Hey, you guys started it. And seriously, you can't say silly shit like "the US only took one year to reach Berlin, the Soviets took four" and expect to get away with it when the only reason the Americans were able to reach Berlin in the first place is exactly because the Russians (and everyone else, but especially the Russians) had already been fighting Germany for years before the US glory hounds even made it across the ocean. Come on, son, step it up. :P

I hope we all learned an important lesson from this. That einstein was dumb and started a two-front war.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on June 01, 2012, 04:48:08 am
Im not going to go any further with that in this thread make another and then we can go at it.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Leshma on June 01, 2012, 04:55:00 am
I hope we all learned an important lesson from this. That einstein was dumb and started a two-front war.

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Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: SixThumbs on June 01, 2012, 04:58:24 am
I know "soccer" is really called football but to avoid any confusion among the rest of us USAers that's what I referred to it as.

Also, I guess sign me up for the team too.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Dan lol on June 01, 2012, 05:09:26 am
The soviets probably could not have rallied against the germans without help from the US, although in the form of lend-lease, and not because of saving private ryan. Just sayin'
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Miley on June 01, 2012, 05:18:30 am
Thats just rude. I did not insult you or your country and I never said the Soviets were not important in the war effort against chocolate chip cookie Germany. But honestly the soviets could not have defeated the chocolate chip cookie by themselves when they had 8.8 to 10.7 million casualties not even fighting the entire German forces. And the US fought at least 40% since they didn't land in France until 1944 and took us a year to get to Berlin while the soviets took 4 years and they only beat the US by what a week? Then they're is also the fact that if the US had not taken part in fighting Germany. Britain would have fallen and the Soviets were geared up to possibly win a conventional war but the Germans were very close to developing nuclear weapons (According to the Documentary I saw) The Germans were around 6 months away from developing nukes when they arrived in Berlin which isn't long at all if they hadn't had pressure from US.

As for the invasion of Japanese occupied Manchuria by the soviets happened on 9 August 1945 and japans surrender was on August 15 of 1945 even though it didn't happen ceremonially until Sept 2. That shows how key the soviets were in the war against Japan. But in any case get outa my thread! I have stuff to organize

And the USA wouldn't be here without the help of France and Spain, sooooo... wait, why are people arguing about history of WW2 on this threadz0rz?
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on June 01, 2012, 05:24:24 am
thats what im trying to end lol i should of just ignored it
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Miley on June 01, 2012, 05:32:42 am
?yunospeakthespanish؟
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Dexxtaa on June 01, 2012, 05:57:19 am
This is like the Official NA drama thread 2012

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Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on June 01, 2012, 08:08:37 am
I love that movie ^........shhh dont judge

Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Gmnotutoo on June 01, 2012, 08:09:03 am
Can I be USA Weaboo?
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Vkvkvk on June 01, 2012, 08:34:56 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ3fW1BxIRY

Because Cavalry is hard.

Cavalry is much easier to play on a ping disadvantage than Melee, so unless this is purely a Cavalry competition again, good luck.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Huey Newton on June 01, 2012, 09:23:49 am
Actually from what I've read between the lines, D-Day had some sort of ulterior motive.
Under the guise of wanting to liberate france and spearhead the beating back of german forces on the western front, I'm pretty sure allied commanders were scared shitless the soviet union was going to steamroll the german forces within 18 or so months.
So D-day mainly happened, I believe, so that the allied forces could gain any kind of foothold on mainland europe, (besides italy) to ensure it wouldn't be completely controlled by the Soviet union.

The landmass of Europe on top of the soviet's already massive country and territories probably contained enough manpower and natural resources to take on the rest of the allies if the soviets decided to turn on them, after extinguishing the chocolate chip cookie's
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on June 01, 2012, 06:30:55 pm
Actually from what I've read between the lines, D-Day had some sort of ulterior motive.
Under the guise of wanting to liberate france and spearhead the beating back of german forces on the western front, I'm pretty sure allied commanders were scared shitless the soviet union was going to steamroll the german forces within 18 or so months.
So D-day mainly happened, I believe, so that the allied forces could gain any kind of foothold on mainland europe, (besides italy) to ensure it wouldn't be completely controlled by the Soviet union.

The landmass of Europe on top of the soviet's already massive country and territories probably contained enough manpower and natural resources to take on the rest of the allies if the soviets decided to turn on them, after extinguishing the chocolate chip cookie's

BAN

Oh believe me were going to have cav and not the lancing kinda but the super accurate un-nerfed xbow kind so game on Europe were coming

USA USA USA USA USA USA
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: SixThumbs on June 01, 2012, 07:26:41 pm
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Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on June 02, 2012, 03:45:36 pm
That's the bravest bird I've ever seen!
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on June 02, 2012, 04:24:13 pm
The Soviets defeated the Germans in winter of 1942/1943 at Stalingrad where they lost far too many men to have a shot at winning the war, and the main German army was completely destroyed. At that point the war was over, there was nothing the Germans could do on the Eastern front. America invading in the western front had no impact on the outcome of the war, only in the cold war after ww2. There was only one actual battle fought on the western front, and the Americans got completely steamrolled by the more experienced Germans (most American troops were hastliy trained and shiped out, where as most German troops had been fighting for several years, they were as experienced if not more so than our combat troops in Afghanistan), until the Germans ran out of fuel for their tanks and had to retreat.

Lots of people in America have this impression that America played a huge part in the war and dominated the German army, when that was not the case at all. This impression has been gotten from TV and movies made about the war, and the jobs of these tv/film makers is to make money not tell the truth, oh but it says based on a real story, how many movies about monsters and ghosts have you seen say that. Obviously people would not want to see a realistic portraly of ww2 in a movie as people want to see their team win decisively. Even D-Day is blown way out of proportion and grossly exaggerated, the Americans were successful in tricking the Germans into thinking they would land somewhere else so the Germans barely had any forces on the beaches that were attacked, and it was a relatively quick and easy victory for the allies with their superior forces. 

But that was the main American strategy during the war, show up to a German defensive position with overwhelming force such that the German soldiers would  just surrender as there was no point getting killed as they knew they had already lost the war 2 years ago and they knew that the Americans treated the German POWs very well. And thats a very good strategy, you win the fight without losing any men or equipment, and treating your PoWs well encourages the enemy soliders to surrender, many germans would have rather died than surrender to the Russians. Better to die fighting than freeze/starve to death in a russian concentration camp as 60% of german pows did.

And the soviets did not win Stalingrad because of the "lend lease program" which almost all of the funding for went to the British not the soviets. The germans were not able to take the city in time and the russians would not give up, and einstein would not allow his generals to retreat for the winter as they had wanted to. So they were forced into a seige in Russia in the winter time and the cold broke down the army in a number of ways. 
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Svitjodvarg on June 02, 2012, 05:27:04 pm
The Soviets defeated the Germans in winter of 1942/1943 at Stalingrad where they lost far too many men to have a shot at winning the war, and the main German army was completely destroyed. At that point the war was over, there was nothing the Germans could do on the Eastern front. America invading in the western front had no impact on the outcome of the war, only in the cold war after ww2. There was only one actual battle fought on the western front, and the Americans got completely steamrolled by the more experienced Germans (most American troops were hastliy trained and shiped out, where as most German troops had been fighting for several years, they were as experienced if not more so than our combat troops in Afghanistan), until the Germans ran out of fuel for their tanks and had to retreat.

Lots of people in America have this impression that America played a huge part in the war and dominated the German army, when that was not the case at all. This impression has been gotten from TV and movies made about the war, and the jobs of these tv/film makers is to make money not tell the truth, oh but it says based on a real story, how many movies about monsters and ghosts have you seen say that. Obviously people would not want to see a realistic portraly of ww2 in a movie as people want to see their team win decisively. Even D-Day is blown way out of proportion and grossly exaggerated, the Americans were successful in tricking the Germans into thinking they would land somewhere else so the Germans barely had any forces on the beaches that were attacked, and it was a relatively quick and easy victory for the allies with their superior forces. 

But that was the main American strategy during the war, show up to a German defensive position with overwhelming force such that the German soldiers would  just surrender as there was no point getting killed as they knew they had already lost the war 2 years ago and they knew that the Americans treated the German POWs very well. And thats a very good strategy, you win the fight without losing any men or equipment, and treating your PoWs well encourages the enemy soliders to surrender, many germans would have rather died than surrender to the Russians. Better to die fighting than freeze/starve to death in a russian concentration camp as 60% of german pows did.

And the soviets did not win Stalingrad because of the "lend lease program" which almost all of the funding for went to the British not the soviets. The germans were not able to take the city in time and the russians would not give up, and einstein would not allow his generals to retreat for the winter as they had wanted to. So they were forced into a seige in Russia in the winter time and the cold broke down the army in a number of ways.

You from NA?
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on June 02, 2012, 06:37:11 pm
You from NA?
yes, usa.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on June 02, 2012, 10:11:54 pm
Sigh time to lock this thread and start anew!
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Bjord on June 02, 2012, 11:00:03 pm
Yes, stupid Euros with their facts and higher intelligence and education and better social systems and bigger average penis length and hotter women and better cars and better porn and better food and better culture and better everything. Lock it!
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Spanish on June 02, 2012, 11:05:38 pm
Lame Bjord that was just lame please go and die
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Bjord on June 02, 2012, 11:12:55 pm
Such a shame you can't sue Truth, isn't it? Or send Truth to prison for being homosexual, or shoot Truth because it stepped on your lawn and had a funny skin tone, or under false pretense shoot Truth in the back six times because you thought he was conducting criminal activity and claim it was self-defense(Treyvon). What a shame that you cannot nuke Truth.

Fuck Truth.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Adamar on June 02, 2012, 11:31:05 pm
I wonder how a US vs EU war would develop.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Svitjodvarg on June 02, 2012, 11:47:02 pm
Yes, stupid Euros with their facts and higher intelligence and education and better social systems and bigger average penis length and hotter women and better cars and better porn and better food and better culture and better everything. Lock it!

yeah!! fucking europeans will burn in hell!!

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Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Ubereem on June 03, 2012, 11:37:15 am
russia had no major airforce while the germans had rocket technology, their tanks were shit compared to germans and they had weak navy. without USA destroying germanies airforce, navy and the rest russia would of been bombed into dust.  "naw man we had like 1000's of snipers hiding in buildings shooting tanks just like in sniper elite V2 and that one jude law movie... man" lol get fkin real
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: rustyspoon on June 03, 2012, 12:50:19 pm
russia had no major airforce while the germans had rocket technology, their tanks were shit compared to germans and they had weak navy. without USA destroying germanies airforce, navy and the rest russia would of been bombed into dust.  "naw man we had like 1000's of snipers hiding in buildings shooting tanks just like in sniper elite V2 and that one jude law movie... man" lol get fkin real

lols you are so terribly misinformed.

Russia had an airforce. If I remember correctly they even had the top ace out of all the allied countries. The soviets also had a navy. In my opinion their tanks were also far superior to German tanks. Russia was a powerhouse. Hell, the war probably would have been over faster if Stalin hadn't previously killed a lot of high-ranking officials during his many "purges" which hurt Russia organizationally. einstein was good at making speeches, but he showed how dumb and crazy he was by attacking Russia. And not just any Russia either, but a Russia run by Stalin, one of the most paranoid, ruthless, psychotic assholes who ever lived.
Title: Re: USA team needed for nations cup
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on June 03, 2012, 04:40:33 pm
russia had no major airforce while the germans had rocket technology, their tanks were shit compared to germans and they had weak navy. without USA destroying germanies airforce, navy and the rest russia would of been bombed into dust.  "naw man we had like 1000's of snipers hiding in buildings shooting tanks just like in sniper elite V2 and that one jude law movie... man" lol get fkin real

Russia had a very large air-force, even larger than Germany's, in Barbarossa they had 40,000 aircraft to Germanys 4,000. The Russians actually had pretty good tanks, their tanks were significantly better than American tanks the Sherman was weak, had very little fire power, and could not hit targets at long range, it was a crappy tank. There are stories of a few tigers taking out dozens of Shermans in single engagements because the Shermans shells would just bounce off the tigers armor most of the time. The USA, at no point in time in the war, ever really fought Germany's air-force. Germany's air-force was badly wounded during the battle of Britian, by the British. They still had a sizable portion of it left, but no were near as much as they originally had and it slowly was worn down by the Russians on the eastern front until there was barely anything left.

Germany basically had no air force on the western front and the American airforce was able to bomb the already defeated Germany unopposed for the most part. And people make a big deal historically about our American aces, i think our best had maybe 35 kills, the best German ace had around 250-350 kills cant remember exactly. The main reason for the Germans failrue in the battle of Britan was einstein put Herman Goering, one of his chocolate chip cookie party buddies in charge of running the air force when he was in no way qualified to do so. And the battle of  Britian occured before the USA entered the war, and long before USA actually started fighting the war half way through 1944.

 Im sure there were naval battles between the USA and Germany(well maybe not), but i havnt even heard of any. Not to mention naval power meant almost nothing in the war in Europe, it was a land/air battle and most of Germanys navy was destroyed by Britian and Russia. Basically 25 million Russians died defeating chocolate chip cookie Germany and the USA comes in 2 years after the war was already over, did very little compared to the Russians and then had the nerve to claim victory in the face of the huge sacrifice the Russians had made, that is one of the reasons why they dont like us very much and think we are ignorant. Not to mention back up until pearl Harbor when Germany was actually a threat and beating the crap out of Russia/France/Britian and they really needed help, the USA was no were to be found, we didnt want to fight Germany because we didn't think we could win, and we only entered the war against Germany because they declared war on us to honor their alliance with the Japanese.

Russia had an airforce. If I remember correctly they even had the top ace out of all the allied countries. The soviets also had a navy. In my opinion their tanks were also far superior to German tanks. Russia was a powerhouse. Hell, the war probably would have been over faster if Stalin hadn't previously killed a lot of high-ranking officials during his many "purges" which hurt Russia organizationally. einstein was good at making speeches, but he showed how dumb and crazy he was by attacking Russia. And not just any Russia either, but a Russia run by Stalin, one of the most paranoid, ruthless, psychotic assholes who ever lived.

And spoons Stalin leading Russia was a detriment to Russia not a good thing, they would have done better without him. Germany could have defeated the Russians quite easily, they came very close but einstein forced his Generals to make alot of bad decisions, if they were able to do what they wanted without having to take orders from einstein they definitely could have won on the Eastern Front.